Pick Your Power: Redux - Page 68

On May 23 2012 21:33 marvellosity wrote:


Thank you zel <3 it appears I may be being stupid. I thought Zephirdd's comment came at an earlier time. I will go back and check to confirm I fucked up the order of things

On May 23 2012 23:46 sandroba wrote:
Framer doesn't matter. It doesn't hinge on sloosh not being scum, because as long as he is alive he has to confirm other players anyway. It hinges only on GF.

On May 24 2012 00:33 Barundar wrote:
Didn't expect me to have picked doctor eh hiro? As I said it's smarter to kill Hiro first, since he is obviously lying to anyone who doesnt go by hear say but who actually reads the thread, but at least you are dead the moment I flip

On May 23 2012 19:19 zelblade wrote:
I actually think that hiro's behaviour has been more scummy as compared to Barundar's. However, I also find it extremely unlikely that the SK/scum would be willing to claim medic at position 16 due to the fact that its rather likely that someone above them in the draft could have taken it, and doing so would obviously force them into a 1-1 trade at best, and when theres one scum/sk left that isnt exactly the best trade.

Which means if we go by the assumption that hiro isnt making a (really bad) gambit barundar is the SK.

On May 23 2012 19:19 zelblade wrote:
I actually think that hiro's behaviour has been more scummy as compared to Barundar's. However, I also find it extremely unlikely that the SK/scum would be willing to claim medic after someone else claimed medic already, and doing so would obviously force them into a 1-1 trade at best, and when theres one scum/sk left that isnt exactly the best trade.

Which means if we go by the assumption that Barundar isnt making a (really bad) gambit hiro is the remaining mafia.

On May 23 2012 16:02 Qatol wrote:
2. Snarfs, you being the mason townie makes me sad, and not just because it means we have a bigger list of players to sort through to find the SK. You were my strongest townie read by far and I was hoping to confirm someone else I wasn't quite so sure of. I think you're mostly on the right track. The only thing I'm unsure of is voting for Barundar and assuming that everyone else is telling the truth about their picks (I know others are doing more of this than you are). Do you think we are better served by going for the people who are likely to be SK or the people who are likely to be mafia? Or maybe the one player who stands a decent chance of being either one (Zephirdd)?

On May 24 2012 01:06 Snarfs wrote:
I'm switching my vote to hiro.

As others have pointed out, it makes little sense for either of them to claim the way they did. However, it makes less sense for Barundar to claim that role second.

The only goal Barundar could have is to get the doctor lynched so that he has a free shot at Qatol tonight, but then he still dies tomorrow and mafia lose. If Barundar is mafia, at the time of his claim, he had given his team a ZERO percent chance at winning.

At least hiro, with his earlier claim, could have been hoping that Barundar did not pick doctor, in addition to knowing that if he causes a mislynch of a doctor he can shoot Qatol. If Hiro is mafia, at the time of his claim, he had a GREATER THAN ZERO percent chance of winning.

In addition to this, hiro makes the most sense for mafia. I agreed with much of what Qatol said in his case and had come to similar conclusions before the whole roleclaim. Especially notice how he just says that he does not think we should lynch Sentinel without any reasoning. [Link] Now, knowing that he is in the mess of things, I think that he is a more viable target than Barundar.


Think about it from Barundar's and hiro's perspectives. Barundar just threw the game if he's either mafia or SK. This would be the last explanation I would give for anyone's play on TL. hiro at least had a chance that Barundar would not claim doctor.

I suggest everyone switch to hiro as it makes more sense logically for him to be mafia.

##Unvote Barundar
##Vote hiro protagonist

On May 24 2012 01:15 Toadesstern wrote:
Snarfs I would usually totally agree with you. But this isn't a normal game anymore after the sent flip.

I just don't think there is a way to figure this out based on the role claims AT ALL. Both are equally mafia-esque.
Barundars action makes a little less sense than hiros action from a not-town perspective but he could do that on purpose.

I doubt getting the medic (if there is one) is a goal. I'd say the one who is not town out of those 2 gave up the game and wants to be lynched which makes it incredible hard to judge wether something makes sense or not from a mafia point of view.

We should see to it that one of those 2 is lynched today, It makes no difference who get's lynched first except for the lucky factor if we hit mafia or town but there's just no reasonable way to figure this out.