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On May 12 2012 05:23 dahdum wrote: I'm backing off of anac at this point, he's still suspicious but I'm thinking reckless/bad town vs bad mafia. Too many people are after him first day, some have to be mafia, and his defense should have been better if he's getting help in a QT (as austinmcc mentioned). Will support a lynch of BioSC or BKE, do we have a current vote count? Your tunnelling on me makes absolutely no sense. We've had pretty much the exact same reads on people, excepting of course that for whatever strange reason you believe I'm playing scummy. I've already asked you for reasons on why you think I'm scum, but frankly they are pretty tame and only serve to distract and cause more arguments. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 12:57 dahdum wrote: @biosc Sure, this is why I think you're scummy: You're agreeing with me here, but then the "they would be as bad as scum" phrase really seems out of place. My first suspicion based on that. By throwing your suspicions I assume you mean the phrase "back half of his post is worthy of discussion". Super passive and non-committal. Sounds like something one scum says to another. I'd also like to hear more on who you think is suspicious beyond Analectus? What is your goal here? You believe I'm scum, but have the same reads as a scum? I'm not even sure you follow your own logic. We are discussing the lynch of Anacletus or BroodKingExe, Why would you bring me into this discussion, if not to distract from what we are discussing. If you have a case against me, make it. So far your suspicions of me have been weak at best, so I hope that if you are making a case, it's better than "He said some cryptic things on day 1", and "He had a scum read on one of my reads, but said something I believe to be scumtalk" Honestly this whole half-assed commited case you have against me just strengthens my case for you being scum. Back to the case at hand. I've stated multiple times that I believe Anacletus to be scum, however, with the recent case against BXE, I'm inclined to swap my vote to him. The biggest reason I am to swap my vote over, is this line in Austin's case. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 05:08 austinmcc wrote: If that makes sense, and recent action just doesn't support a scenario where Anac is scum and Brood is town, then we should take out Brood. We can deal with Anac later if he IS scum, because he's got no chance to be really disruptive after his start. Both players have had people call them out on being scummy. However, due to Anac losing all credit with the town, regardless of affiliation, it would be tough for him ,should he be mafia, to get any ball rolling on someone else in town. It's not a forgiveness for bad play, its a delay in action for a scum target appearing more scummy near the end of the day. ## Unvote ## Vote BroodKingEXE | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 11:11 dahdum wrote: Bringing up BioSC was just reiterating the top of my list, it's also enjoyable how defensive he gets when mentioned. I'll make a full case when I'm ready. I'm not sold on anyone being confirmed, and we haven't gotten to true analysis stage. *yawn* Another passive aggressive post from Dah against me. Enjoying how defensive I get? It's just as enjoyable to watch you flail about with no real evidence. | ||
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On May 12 2012 07:55 BroodKingEXE wrote: Ahhhh!! I've gotta cram in what I can. Mufaa, Anacletus, and dahdum Let's see. It looks like Mufaa is wagoning. He votes for me to get on the wagon, and be on the right side of things. He voted for Jail to keep suspicion off himself when the vote was close. I'm sure of it. Same thing with dahdum read his filter. At one point he supported me, then he turned away. I dug myself into a bad hole I think Shiao and austin are townies for sure they are making good amount of sense in their posts. Listen to them,but post your own info as to why you vote. Advice: keep your eyes open, don't tunnel like you did with me. If you do really suspect them look at what they are saying. Posting style is only an add-on to being scum, what they say is more important. This seems like an interesting and good place to start. I actually have to sleep now, I have work in the morning, but will be free all afternoon tomorrow, assuming I can finish my project. Good Night all. | ||
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Finals have kept me busy, but I'm finished up with them. Now the only thing taking up my time is my SC2 tournament. Going to read through filters and try to get some discussions going. We have a lot of ground to make up on the scum. | ||
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Are you seriously calling me out for squashing this post? + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: ) As I have said, its one of the worst posts to try and make a case off of. I don't even have to look up other posts to contradict it. It contradicts itself! I really don't have to start a case with you. You've made that for yourself day 1, and I feel like there are others that we can sniff out. Honestly, going from + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 09:22 Anacletus wrote: I don't have any information. So no benefits and no doubts shall be given then I assume? to this post above mine should speak volumes. If you have any more meat to this case against me beyond "He voted for me, time to vote for him" I would love to know. As for whom I would like to call out, + Show Spoiler + I'm suspicious of Darkfirex5. He seems to be trying to shift focus away from Anacletus, and this is why I think that. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote: Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: ) He's already done this twice in this day, pointing out small flaws and meaningless details in my posts to try and get an argument started against me. My strategy to deal with it was to stamp it out. Just because I'm putting pressure on someone, though, doesn't mean I'm not looking for more reads. There are at least 4 mafia in this game, and town needs to find them all to win. Darkfire: I still haven't gotten an answer for this post. Mind filling me in on the details? Like how you are trying to shift blame off of one of the scummiest players at the time to someone else on such a triviality? Unvorgiven_ve: Where the hell have you been, and why is it that the person the mafia hit has you #1 on their list? DahDum: I've still got my reasons for suspecting you, and having Brood call you out only to not respond for 1.5 days adds to the suspicion. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 14 2012 11:16 Anacletus wrote: This is exactly what I am talking about man. You're playing exactly like mafia would. Of course the mafia wouldn't kill someone who was suspecting mafia - they would lynch someone who was pointing fingers at another townie and then after the killing they would bring up "Oh, this person_X thought Person_Y was mafia and Person_X was killed, that must mean Person_Y is mafia too and was killed for the suspicions!" I'm even more deeply convinced that you are mafia now. There are many types of mafia play style. Your theory is based on assumptions, a pretty horrible reason to lynch someone. I can just as easily assume that the scum are killing off people that ARE on the right track, and keeping people like me, aka people who are not yet on the right track and have been brought up multiple times, alive. Honestly, the people that keep bringing me up are 3. Dahdum, Darkfire, and YOU. All of you have brought up asinine things in my posting, typing errors, assumptions based on how they believe scum to be playing, ect. I've addressed them all. You got away with bad play day 1, and now you are trying to accuse me of being scum simply because I voted for Brood. Hint: YOU voted for brood. And if I were to ASSUME you are town, why the hell would you bring up someone who switched from you (a town according to you) to someone we believed was acting scummy? I've bolded my question to you. ##Vote Anacletus | ||
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BioSC
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+ Show Spoiler + Especially when you don't even have the quote in context. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 06:43 Darkfirex5 wrote: Lastly: I was refering to why you said town gets a nice snipe instead of we are geting a nice snipe, i was only adding on some slight pressure on the begining, which was similar to other posts. The way you get very defensive and attack my one post only asking about your reference to town/mafia. FOS: BioSc From your posts folowing, i think less of you as being mafia, and more so townie, that doesnt mean i wont continue keeping an eye on you too. Shocking, to state that I don't trust someone in a mafia game. Again, I've stated my reason for switching votes. Since you can't be bothered looking it up, here it is: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 05:45 BioSC wrote: Back to the case at hand. I've stated multiple times that I believe Anacletus to be scum, however, with the recent case against BXE, I'm inclined to swap my vote to him. The biggest reason I am to swap my vote over, is this line in Austin's case. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 05:08 austinmcc wrote: If that makes sense, and recent action just doesn't support a scenario where Anac is scum and Brood is town, then we should take out Brood. We can deal with Anac later if he IS scum, because he's got no chance to be really disruptive after his start. Both players have had people call them out on being scummy. However, due to Anac losing all credit with the town, regardless of affiliation, it would be tough for him ,should he be mafia, to get any ball rolling on someone else in town. It's not a forgiveness for bad play, its a delay in action for a scum target appearing more scummy near the end of the day. ## Unvote ## Vote BroodKingEXE Town gained more information from lynching someone acting a bit less scummy, than someone who was playing so awful that they were a detriment no matter what team they were on. As to you voting for BKE just to save your own skin... Yeah, there is a better way to do that. Make a case against someone who is playing scummy, like we told you about 5 times. The way you were playing yesterday probably meant we weren't going to believe you, but that is what it is. Voting for someone you believe isn't scum? That shouldn't be a town strategy. That is the strategy of scum that got saved by a bad town play. I haven't tied you to anyone. I've been pointing out your scummy plays. Something YOU have failed to do so far in your case against me. As to your "Late Vote" Theory, there were 3 swapped votes in the same hour. Mine, Yours, and DahDum's. There were 4 people who switched later, including the hour of lynch time. Honestly, if you ARE town, I don't even think you know why you are making a case against me. If you are mafia, then the obvious reason would be to get a ball rolling on someone who's been vocal in the thread, so to make it "easier" to garner votes towards me. | ||
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On May 14 2012 20:49 Anacletus wrote: You're not even refuting or countering any of my points with validations for your actions anymore: Yes, I am. Did you even read my last post? I've stated several times that I am not voting for you solely based on your reasoning for changing votes. I would like to know where I wrote that your only reason for voting was me changing. I addressed each of your bad points, including this one. You're pretty condescending for someone who doesn't address any of the points I've made against them, but instead creates round-about posts that pretty aggressive. And YOU apparently lack the ability to read my posts, or just read what you want to see and ignore all the rest of my points. Care to answer my question back from before? I'm still waiting. You've tried to tie me to darkfire several times. Link Please. The only one linking yourself to Dark is YOU, in your case against me. We can't lynch more than one person per day so I'm not aiming for a complete mafia call out - I am just convinced that you are mafia. I've also said several times that I believe that FirmTofu is mafia as well based on your posting similarities. But I guess you overlooked that. Got me there! Wait, not really, try reading my last couple of posts. I have. I still believe this So your defense now is: "I'M NOT MAFIA, HE'S MAFIA"? Let's say the town DOES finally decide to hang me, you don't think I'll end the day with someone like "Okay, once you hang me go after BioSC and FirmTofu"? You can say whatever you want, if you flip as scummy as you are playing, it won't matter what you say. I feel like your strategy is pretty near-sighted for being a mafia. Your cute plan of trying to get whoever ShiaoPi was fingering more imaginative. Now who's being condescending/aggressive? Adding cute to your points doesn't make them any better. I believe ShiaoPi far more than I believe you, because HE flipped town. YOU on the other hand have been scummy since min. one. Your posts aren't worth addressing anymore. Your case is bad and your responses in this post confirm to me you don't actually have any idea about why you are coming after me. | ||
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On May 15 2012 03:00 Mufaa wrote: BioSC- All game you've been defending yourself from reads people put on you, but your defense is always "I'm not doing mafia things, your read is invalid" or something along those lines. I'd be a lot more likely to believe you if you had contributed to finding scum at all instead of just defending yourself. Who do you think is most likely to be scum and what do you have to back it up? I have contributed. Have you not noticed the little back and forth me and ana have been doing today? | ||
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On May 15 2012 08:40 Anacletus wrote: I fucking told you guys to lynch BioSC. Now do it. Calm down. There were obviously enough people who thought your case wasn't strong enough to vote for me. What is more concerning is the fact that there have been lurkers now for 2 voting cycles straight. | ||
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Whomever shot Mufaa, thank you. I wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. Now, we can finally look at the filter of a CONFIRMED scum, and try to draw some conclusions from it. This post in particular stood out to me: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:18 Mufaa wrote: Like I've been saying since my first post, I think Ana is bad town more than mafia. Every scummy thing he has done has been so scummy that if he was Mafia his partners would be berating him so bad he probably would have stopped posting instead of digging himself into this giant hole he's made. Austin's point about how even if Ana is scum he's lost so much credibility he can't make a push on someone d2. If he doesn't improve his play we might have to take him out later, but right now if we lynch him we won't gain any real info. Everyone has been on to him at some point, so if he flips town we gain almost nothing from this since his posts lack any content. If he flips scum the scum would lose a player, but that honestly might help them if he really is scum and is playing like this. If we lynch someone else and they flip town, we can see who has been focused on them, who stayed out of the discussion on that person and we at least have some good info to discuss over d2. The odds are just as good of anyone else flipping scum, so I would rather flip someone who would give us info instead of giving scum the option to hide behind the excuse that Ana was such a bad townie, how could everyone not vote for him. I think BroodKingEXE needs to post some content instead of one liners and just agreeing with people as it comes off scummy, but he isn't my first choice at the moment. Jailbreaker- Why haven't you posted in the last 3 and a half pages? You commented early on about how much aggression there was but you haven't made a single case, even hinted at having a read, or contributed to the town in any way. Why are you so content to just sit back and watch everyone else debate with the deadline so close? ##Vote Jailbreaker This isn't a permanent vote. I think Jailbreaker is the best lynch so far. If no one else feels this way, I will swing my vote to BroodKingEXE to get some info from the lynch as I do think his actual content will give us something to compare to everyone else d2 once we see his flip. We know for a fact that Mufaa was scum. Therefore, HE knows what alignment Anacletus is. If Ana was town, why would the scum team switch votes to anyone? Town lynches a townie, and scum get to shoot someone, instantly putting them in the best possible situation. The only situation i can see is that the scumteam made a last minute ploy to save Anacletus, and it worked. The suspicions I have are further strengthened by the same vote list that Anacletus used in his case against me. Quite ironically, austinmcc was the one who made it, and will end up being what I believe will be a very strong scumread against the 2 remaining mafia. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnX9O6cujxVmdFlvZkdqR1g0Qlh3d2dSaENrdW9DblE#gid=0 Notice the 2 people WHO NEVER VOTED ANACLETUS That would be austin (the person who made the chart) and Mufaa (The confirmed scum) I believe that mafia told Anacletus to vote for himself after the rest of the town started having major suspicions against him, to look more "innocent" or "new" to mafia. Once votes started coming in for BKE, he switched his vote over, to finally secure the lynch of a confirmed town. Those are not my words, however. Those are HIS. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:43 Anacletus wrote: I'll be real with you man, I don't actually have *that* much of an inclination to believing that you are mafia. It's just that it feels like it's either you or me, so I'm trying to save my own neck. I am not without doubt of you - I just don't think that there's enough information for me to think it's worthy to hang you, but again, if it comes down to me or you, it's you... :/ I do think that others feel like you're mafia though, so that's why my vote is where it is. I feel like it was a combined play from the scumteam to cover up an early slip by one of their own. Anacletus with his sudden change in posting style and acting like bad town, Mufaa adding to the story by posting in defence of Anacletus, all nicely wrapped up with the case made by Austin to lynch a Blue Town. Finally, after making his "case" against me, Anacletus has simply stopped participating in anything remotely town positive. Looking through his filter of the last couple of days, they are simply one-liners and fluff posts. I get the feeling from him that I'm on the right track, and he's the one being defensive and trying to get people to vote me. This is my current thoughts on what is going on. Feel free to discuss. Should Anacletus feel like defending himself, here is what I want to know: 1) Why did the 1 of the 2 people who didn't vote you day 1 turn up scum? 2) Why was a confirmed mafia defending you up until his shot? 3) Why have you only posted a case on me, when there are 2 mafia left? What happens if you get your wish and I'm lynched today? What happens if I flip Town? ## Vote Anacletus | ||
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BioSC
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I'm not the vigi. I also have a suspicion, and that it is whomever randomly got the power from our modkilled townie way back when. Honestly a roleclaim to that vigi would be a huge discussion point, and shouldn't be done lightly. Also, with regards to DahDum, yeah, I admit I was suspicious of him. Obviously, I was wrong, but I had never voted for him, only the person I found scummy at the time. As to Anac/Dahdum, I've responded as well as I thought I could have to Anac's case against me, and I feel like mine against him is stronger. I wish I could comment on Dahdum, but he never actually laid out anything significant. Honestly I believe he was just on the wrong track, and simply bandwagoning. What do you think of my post towards Anacletus? | ||
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On May 17 2012 09:26 Anacletus wrote: I'm lurking with cause. I feel like the town is doing a good job right now, and normally when I try to say something all shit breaks loose, so I figured that since you guys are on a good track I might as well let this go. How is town on a good track again? Since the day started, we've had 6/7 people post. We have 3 votes for 3 different people. Most of the people having posted a one sentence "I'm going to look through filters." or "Here's my vote, see you when night comes" This is NOT a good track if you are belonging to town! The only 2 people that are contributing to any kind of discussion are me and austin, but we are both discussing 2 different things, while NO ONE has commented on ANYTHING posted by either of us, or posted anything meaningful towards whom they think is the next scumtarget! This game would be a complete farce if austin were to be lynched simply by being The first person to be voted for! You still haven't addressed my comments made towards you, Anacletus. I would appreciate if you didn't bury them. Also, Austin: I want to know your opinion on my case towards Anacletus. You've given a read on everyone but him recently. I want to know people's thoughts about Mufaa's actions this game. Town FINALLY hits a Scum, and it seems like no one is going through his filter and looking for patterns but myself. If you believe that Anacletus is scum, why would you try and vote lurkers and not someone you believe is scum? I want some discussion, and if its going to only be with you, so be it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 17 2012 07:07 BioSC wrote: Lets just pause for one second. Are we really going to vote with someone who multiple confirmed townies have called out since day 1, has had inconsistent posting patterns, and is now tunneling against the person who has been calling him out since day 2? Whomever shot Mufaa, thank you. I wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. Now, we can finally look at the filter of a CONFIRMED scum, and try to draw some conclusions from it. This post in particular stood out to me: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:18 Mufaa wrote: Like I've been saying since my first post, I think Ana is bad town more than mafia. Every scummy thing he has done has been so scummy that if he was Mafia his partners would be berating him so bad he probably would have stopped posting instead of digging himself into this giant hole he's made. Austin's point about how even if Ana is scum he's lost so much credibility he can't make a push on someone d2. If he doesn't improve his play we might have to take him out later, but right now if we lynch him we won't gain any real info. Everyone has been on to him at some point, so if he flips town we gain almost nothing from this since his posts lack any content. If he flips scum the scum would lose a player, but that honestly might help them if he really is scum and is playing like this. If we lynch someone else and they flip town, we can see who has been focused on them, who stayed out of the discussion on that person and we at least have some good info to discuss over d2. The odds are just as good of anyone else flipping scum, so I would rather flip someone who would give us info instead of giving scum the option to hide behind the excuse that Ana was such a bad townie, how could everyone not vote for him. I think BroodKingEXE needs to post some content instead of one liners and just agreeing with people as it comes off scummy, but he isn't my first choice at the moment. Jailbreaker- Why haven't you posted in the last 3 and a half pages? You commented early on about how much aggression there was but you haven't made a single case, even hinted at having a read, or contributed to the town in any way. Why are you so content to just sit back and watch everyone else debate with the deadline so close? ##Vote Jailbreaker This isn't a permanent vote. I think Jailbreaker is the best lynch so far. If no one else feels this way, I will swing my vote to BroodKingEXE to get some info from the lynch as I do think his actual content will give us something to compare to everyone else d2 once we see his flip. We know for a fact that Mufaa was scum. Therefore, HE knows what alignment Anacletus is. If Ana was town, why would the scum team switch votes to anyone? Town lynches a townie, and scum get to shoot someone, instantly putting them in the best possible situation. The only situation i can see is that the scumteam made a last minute ploy to save Anacletus, and it worked. The suspicions I have are further strengthened by the same vote list that Anacletus used in his case against me. Quite ironically, austinmcc was the one who made it, and will end up being what I believe will be a very strong scumread against the 2 remaining mafia. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnX9O6cujxVmdFlvZkdqR1g0Qlh3d2dSaENrdW9DblE#gid=0 Notice the 2 people WHO NEVER VOTED ANACLETUS That would be austin (the person who made the chart) and Mufaa (The confirmed scum) I believe that mafia told Anacletus to vote for himself after the rest of the town started having major suspicions against him, to look more "innocent" or "new" to mafia. Once votes started coming in for BKE, he switched his vote over, to finally secure the lynch of a confirmed town. Those are not my words, however. Those are HIS. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:43 Anacletus wrote: I'll be real with you man, I don't actually have *that* much of an inclination to believing that you are mafia. It's just that it feels like it's either you or me, so I'm trying to save my own neck. I am not without doubt of you - I just don't think that there's enough information for me to think it's worthy to hang you, but again, if it comes down to me or you, it's you... :/ I do think that others feel like you're mafia though, so that's why my vote is where it is. I feel like it was a combined play from the scumteam to cover up an early slip by one of their own. Anacletus with his sudden change in posting style and acting like bad town, Mufaa adding to the story by posting in defence of Anacletus, all nicely wrapped up with the case made by Austin to lynch a Blue Town. Finally, after making his "case" against me, Anacletus has simply stopped participating in anything remotely town positive. Looking through his filter of the last couple of days, they are simply one-liners and fluff posts. I get the feeling from him that I'm on the right track, and he's the one being defensive and trying to get people to vote me. This is my current thoughts on what is going on. Feel free to discuss. Should Anacletus feel like defending himself, here is what I want to know: 1) Why did the 1 of the 2 people who didn't vote you day 1 turn up scum? 2) Why was a confirmed mafia defending you up until his shot? 3) Why have you only posted a case on me, when there are 2 mafia left? What happens if you get your wish and I'm lynched today? What happens if I flip Town? ## Vote Anacletus | ||
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On May 17 2012 10:04 austinmcc wrote: Bio my honest answer right now is... Sweet jesus I don't want to look through his filter. Any time I start, I see myself defending him on D1 as noob town. Everything on D1, everything since, I can still read as noob town or as scum. I was actually serious when I said he was so questionable that he'd have no chance to drive things in later days and cause chaos, and I've stuck by that, basically skipping over his posts (and also, to some extent, cases on him because I have been refusing to read him). Which is, frankly, not helpful. I got through your filter and a full gameread, but didn't get around to his because I seriously don't even want to wade in. I will make myself do some looking tonight, but I will probably mainly be reading your case and others' cases on him, because I just start to confuse myself when I look at his filter. I know, but honestly his filter isn't that bad. Most of it is the flabbergasted postings from day 1 then the case on me. Like I said, recently his posts are just fluff. The reads are there, and frankly it's lazy to just assume he won't make a push on anyone. He did manage to get 3 people to vote for me Day 2. I don't want people to just ignore him because of the shoddy play. It could be what the scum planned for, as meta as that sounds. | ||
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On May 17 2012 10:55 FirmTofu wrote: Hey Bio, what do you think of austin? Do you think he is scummy for leading the lynch on two townies? Do his actions seem contradictory to you? Why or why not? I'll provide my thoughts after BioSC responds. Perhaps I'm just new, but why would you need to wait to post your read on austin after hearing mine? Why don't you just post what you are thinking? Help get discussions going? | ||
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As you asked, here it goes. His total sum actions to me, came as scummy. If you bothered to read my Anacletus post, there are reasons in there about why, but for brevity's sake, here are a few. Led/contributed to lynches on 2 townies, one being a blue. Night 1, I was inclined to believe that it was an honest mistake. I changed my vote based on his case and BKE's actions that day, as did many others. Looking at his voting history doesn't exactly help him in that regard, something even he has stated. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 08:18 austinmcc wrote: That, and so many other questions  I know I tunneled him and drove that wagon, but as the day kept going his responses just looked worse and worse. Time for some rereading and a hard look at how votes moved. Also, with him and the confirmed scum Mufaa never voting for Anacletus, someone I believe to be scum as well, it doesn't read highly towards town to me. With everything that has happened, It's tough to just toss it away as being unlucky. Coincidences usually happen once or twice. Multiple times, well, that means there is a pattern. So if you want my read, there it is. I feel he's scummy. Now. Back to YOU. Again, why do you feel the need to withhold information from the town, asking for others' input before giving your own? That comes off as scummy to me. It comes off as you fishing for information to make the best case against someone, so you can vote in the best interest of your team. That shouldn't be a town strategy. Town, during the day, should be sharing as much information as they can, to make the best decision possible, especially considering that we are winding down with # of people and the obvious # of lurkers we have in this game. Your last 5 posts have been nothing but fishing for information from people who were posting at the time. Why is that? You wanted a list of people whom I believed to be scummy. Here it is, updated since the Mufaa shot. | ||
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