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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 08 2012 02:25 GMT
#47
Alright, I cave. I'll give this a shot.

/in

Go easy on a newbie, 1st game anywhere ever =D
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 08 2012 21:40 GMT
#62
Excellent. Lets get it on.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#77
Sounds like a solid strategy. Basic, but solid. Getting rid of lurkers/low content players seems like a win/win. If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.

Seems like the first couple of hours will be spent waiting on the rest of the players to get here. Yay for idle chatter.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 09 2012 23:52 GMT
#79
Right, I didn't mean to say: "HEY <insert guy who hasn't posted since PM'S went out> IS A LURKER"

Just as a general: This is an ok thing for town to do once we all know who is actually playing/participating.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 00:02 GMT
#81
On May 10 2012 08:56 Hyaach wrote:
this is exactly why i always hated day starts.

just posting to let people know i'm here and ready to jump the big gun!



Guys! He said he has a gun! He's OBVIOUSLY SCUM!

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I kid... or do I?
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 06:07 GMT
#91
On May 10 2012 13:18 BroodKingEXE wrote:
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On May 10 2012 08:17 BioSC wrote:
Sounds like a solid strategy. Basic, but solid. Getting rid of lurkers/low content players seems like a win/win. If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.

Seems like the first couple of hours will be spent waiting on the rest of the players to get here. Yay for idle chatter.


Not true, lynching an inactive is a waste. Scum wants us to not lynch them. We can call lurkers out, and they have to respond. They don't respond, we start looking at them. Lynching, because they are lurkers is stupid.



... Which is exactly what I said. Lurkers/Low content players. NOT inactives. Though, I fail to see the difference in saying don't lynch inactives. If we call out lurkers and they don't respond, are they not by definition inactives? Either way, making lurkers either provide help to the town or getting rid of inactives helps out the town, as I said in my first post.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 07:12 GMT
#95
On May 10 2012 15:18 dahdum wrote:
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On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.



I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm.

##Vote FirmTofu



While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Posting style, however, can and most likely should be used. A lot of people are shooting off votes 4ish hours into the day, and while it's majority vote at the end of the day, I think there are better ways of getting people to speak up without throwing around votes on a whim. Let's see what Firm has to say.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 07:53 GMT
#98
On May 10 2012 16:40 dahdum wrote:
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On May 10 2012 16:12 BioSC wrote:
On May 10 2012 15:18 dahdum wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi again dahdum! I hope you aren't mafia again ><

I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.



I'm on this wagon, for BKE's reason and the "I hope you aren't mafia" statement. Let's hear more from you Firm.

##Vote FirmTofu



While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Posting style, however, can and most likely should be used. A lot of people are shooting off votes 4ish hours into the day, and while it's majority vote at the end of the day, I think there are better ways of getting people to speak up without throwing around votes on a whim. Let's see what Firm has to say.


Actually, throwing around votes is an excellent way of getting people to speak up. You're defending him right now, he'll respond, and we can interpret later if/when he flips what that says about you.

We were in the last game together so I also have a better sense of his style than I do of the rest of you.



Read what I posted again. I threw my suspicions towards him as well. Not sure what about my post was defending him.

Fair enough point about his style. Though I did mention that as well. Again, I want to hear from him before immediately calling Lynch. I haven't cast my vote yet either.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 07:57 GMT
#99
Also, I'm heading off to bed, I'll check on the thread once I wake up. Hopefully Firm and the others whom have yet to come forward do. Good Night.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 19:52 GMT
#137
Good morning. Lets get to business. Somehow I managed to miss this post back on page 5.

On May 10 2012 13:10 Darkfirex5 wrote:
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On May 10 2012 08:17 BioSC wrote:
If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.



Well, might as well get started first game :3 I'm questioning why do you speak about town in third person as if you are speaking as if town isnt including yourself, so im asking why are you not using "we" and refering to town as a "they." Also you are justifying killing town just because they arent active, a vote helps even if they are a lurker, its another person who can still vote and help kill off all of the mafia.


If you are going to put pressure on me, at least make it substantial/useful. If you are going to quote me, quote the whole post, not half of it and take it out of context. "They" is referring to lurking players, which I am not, thus I didn't use "we". This suspicion about "misused" pronouns is silly, and only drives me to wonder about you. You have only made one post so far, and wasn't very helpful. So far, the only lurkers here are you and Mufaa, whom has yet to post ANYTHING.

Not enough to drive my vote to you, but I'm sure to keep an eye on your posts.

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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 19:54 GMT
#138
On May 11 2012 04:50 Anacletus wrote:
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On May 11 2012 04:46 ShiaoPi wrote:
On May 11 2012 04:43 Anacletus wrote:
Well, shit, I guess opting to lynch someone because several others were voting for them was silly.

I'm not mafia TT


Is that your defense? Seriously?

BroodkingEXE if you believe me scum and starting a scumwagon, I would like to know the reasons how you came to that assumption.


Well, the way I figure it, if I try to defend myself too much I'll just draw more attention to myself. There really isn't any evidence on the board so I think that just not voicing my opinion until there's more evidence would be better.

I'd just like to point out though that if I am hung, you will see that I am not mafia and you will probably want to go after those gunning for me.....

Your justification for wanting to hang me is lacking evidence just as my claim.


Still, saying "Don't lynch me because I'm town" isn't that solid of a defense. We want to know why you voted for Tofu with no reason, then when you DID post a reason, it wasn't solid.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 10 2012 23:08 GMT
#156
----------redacted----------


On May 10 2012 08:17 BioSC wrote:
If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.



Well, might as well get started first game :3 I'm questioning why do you speak about town in third person as if you are speaking as if town isnt including yourself, so im asking why are you not using "we" and refering to town as a "they." Also you are justifying killing town just because they arent active, a vote helps even if they are a lurker, its another person who can still vote and help kill off all of the mafia.[/QUOTE]

If you are going to put pressure on me, at least make it substantial/useful. If you are going to quote me, quote the whole post, not half of it and take it out of context. "They" is referring to lurking players, which I am not, thus I didn't use "we". This suspicion about "misused" pronouns is silly, and only drives me to wonder about you. You have only made one post so far, and wasn't very helpful. So far, the only lurkers here are you and Mufaa, whom has yet to post ANYTHING.

Not enough to drive my vote to you, but I'm sure to keep an eye on your posts.

[/QUOTE]
I was refering to why you said town gets a nice snipe instead of we are geting a nice snipe, i was only adding on some slight pressure on the begining, which was similar to other posts. The way you get very defensive and attack my one post only asking about your reference to town/mafia. FOS: BioSc From your posts folowing, i think less of you as being mafia, and more so townie, that doesnt mean i wont continue keeping an eye on you too.[/QUOTE]


Fair enough. I would probably be more suspicious of you if you weren't of me. I wanted to address this because I felt it trivial to discuss when there was more obvious things to consider and talk about.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 02:20 GMT
#171
On May 11 2012 10:21 Anacletus wrote:
My personal feelings as of right now is that BioSC is mafia. He's been super passive while we've been at each others throats and has been trying to redirect attention off of himself.

Well, this could turn out interesting

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On May 11 2012 08:08 BioSC wrote:
Fair enough. I would probably be more suspicious of you if you weren't of me. I wanted to address this because I felt it trivial to discuss when there was more obvious things to consider and talk about.




So, let me get this straight. You believe I am mafia, because I've been passive? That simply isn't true. I questioned Tofu on his comment, and he responded. You, on the other hand, have been all over the place with your postings, and when people call you out on it, you give reasons like "If you all lynch me, I'll flip town" and "I don't want to have a lynch, so I'm passing my vote".

I have been pro town since minute one. When people were confused or pressing me for information, I responded. I know my innocence, and have defended it. In response to you quoting one of my posts saying "interesting"... It's day 1. The only people that should be trusting of anyone else are people in the mafia. Hell, it's in the game description: "Uninformed majority vs. Informed minority" I don't trust anyone day 1, and neither should anyone else in town.

We've been trying to find a good scum read for a day now, and as of now, YOU are the biggest read. This is the biggest reason why I'm having a hard time believing you are Town.

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On May 11 2012 09:22 Anacletus wrote:
I don't have any information. So no benefits and no doubts shall be given then I assume?



If you are town, and have no information, why the hell would you post? Browsing through your filters, you've done nothing to help Town find a scum. Your vote on Tofu early had no reasoning behind it, and ever since you've been called out on it, you have turtled and provided no reason for me to believe you are helping town. Until you can show that you are helping town by finding scum, my vote is for you.

##Vote Anacletus
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 02:21 GMT
#172
On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote:
Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: )


Which post was this? The one about me possibly being scum (I'll answer these all day) or the one about Unforgiven?
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 03:35 GMT
#180
dahdum: I'm interested in knowing why you believe I'm being scummy... Your posts don't really give any reasons to why you think I'm playing like scum, just that I'm defensive about people calling me out. (Which I guess by responding to this list is furthering that point)

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On May 11 2012 05:03 Crossfire99 wrote:
Anacletus, don't think that defending yourself is scummy; it is just good play and everyone should do it. If you know you are town, then defend yourself and prove it. If you are actually town, and go down without a fight, then you have done nothing for us except die.


I would rather defend myself than let people try to read scumminess (is that a word?) that isn't there.

You also call me out on being tunneled on Anacletus. Perhaps I am, but as I said, his play is reading as the scummiest so far, which we both agree on.

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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 04:19 GMT
#183
Alright, here goes.

First, though, the guy's name is Anacletus. I'm going to assume the misspelling was simply a Freudian slip of the tounge >.<

I'm suspicious of Darkfirex5. He seems to be trying to shift focus away from Anacletus, and this is why I think that.
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On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote:
Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: )


He's already done this twice in this day, pointing out small flaws and meaningless details in my posts to try and get an argument started against me. My strategy to deal with it was to stamp it out. Just because I'm putting pressure on someone, though, doesn't mean I'm not looking for more reads. There are at least 4 mafia in this game, and town needs to find them all to win.

By me saying I'm watching his posts, I mean exactly that. I'm trying to stay pretty crystal in my intentions in this game.

Another I'm iffy about is Mufaa. He hasn't posted much, and has given a reason about jobs and shifts taking up a lot of time. His other posts are a question on when the end time for voting is (useless fluff, a mod post covered that), and a weak pressure on Ana. What I can't tell is if that is just shoddy town play, or mafia bussing. Either way, I need more posts from him to either change or strengthen my read on him.


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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 04:54 GMT
#189
On May 11 2012 13:48 Hyaach wrote:
Im at school surfing this with my mobile so i cant really read thru everypost people made before but i believe ive said biisc was trying to remain neutral all these time and not committing ro anything
Biisc is biosc and my read on him is before his recent post in the last 10 hours



will give an update when im at home in around 7 hours


Yeah, I'm remaining so neutral that I've casted a vote for someone I believe is scum, and gave reasons for others that I believe is scum.

I think you and I have different definitions of neutral...
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 05:37 GMT
#191
I've expressed this stance in my post answering dahdum about whom I felt was scummy, but this points it out pretty clear as day.

My post about it: + Show Spoiler +
On May 11 2012 13:19 BioSC wrote:
Alright, here goes.

First, though, the guy's name is Anacletus. I'm going to assume the misspelling was simply a Freudian slip of the tounge >.<

I'm suspicious of Darkfirex5. He seems to be trying to shift focus away from Anacletus, and this is why I think that.
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 11 2012 10:58 Darkfirex5 wrote:
Well though i still think Anecletus seems the scummiest, but he does make a... point i guess about BioSC id need more proof though than to change my vote to him, ill keep it in mind when reading his posts. I still find this a weak bandwagon forming as i stated before, does anyone want to respond to my post before? (feeling ignored D: )


He's already done this twice in this day, pointing out small flaws and meaningless details in my posts to try and get an argument started against me. My strategy to deal with it was to stamp it out. Just because I'm putting pressure on someone, though, doesn't mean I'm not looking for more reads. There are at least 4 mafia in this game, and town needs to find them all to win.


I would like to see some posts out of Darkfirex5 about this. Why did you make the post above?

I also tend to agree with the stuff about making lists. Dahdum, I think your heart is in the right place, but focusing on a "short list" of the most scummy players would allow us to focus on finding, like Tofu said, a single guilty party.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 19:14 GMT
#212
Yes, we are close to lynch time, and Brood hasn't shown himself for 2+ hours. However, I don't like the precedence swapping the bandwagon onto him says about play. I feel like it gives scum an out.

"Well, even though my posts were scummy, and the majority of town have been calling me out on it, and I've yet to offer anything positive to town, you guys forgave Ana, why not forgive me?"

For now, my vote stays as is. As we wind down to time, though, what does that mean if Brood doesn't show up till night starts? What is our plan before then? Do we all switch the bandwagon to Brood for a last minute lynch? Or is it a last minute ploy by mafia to save scum that has been playing badly?
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
May 11 2012 19:45 GMT
#215
Which is a fair conclusion. I am also voting for the person I believe is the most scummy, which is Anac. Your points on Brood, however, haven't been lost on me. Reading through his filter along with your case against him definitely raises my suspicions towards him.

My second half of the post was more of a discussion starter than a concrete plan for us to follow. As of right now, the only people on and even discussing the case this close to lynch is you, me, and ShiaoPi. If you want to get your lynch case through, the best way to do that is discussion, and by trying to convince the 4 non-voters as of yet to vote your way, but even then, I feel like the case against Anac is already too stacked against him to change.
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