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On May 19 2012 08:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: -_- Why are you so unwilling to contribute? You're rapidly approaching cephiro/VE level of uselessness. I'm not. I honestly don't know. Going by the votes it seems you would make the most sense for the last mafia on Palmar's team. But if we're going by behavior then I'm not going to point any fingers at you, which is why I haven't. I looked through Pick Your Power Interesting and you were very calm and passive in that game as mafia. It's nothing like what you are doing this game. I raise an eyebrow because you seemed gone/inactive days 2-4ish but on day 1 you were really active and since day 4 you've been here. So I'm not coming to point fingers yet until Wiggles and sandroba are dead and I'm more confident about killing you than anyone else. | ||
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On May 20 2012 05:04 gonzaw wrote: What do you think about sloosh then? You say you don't want to point fingers at MZ yet, but what about sloosh? Also, again, we won't do a multilynch today, we'll kill sandroba alone, so where each vote goes doesn't matter at all if everybody follows the plan It's posts like the one Sloosh made above that makes me sure he's town over anyone else right now. On May 20 2012 06:21 gonzaw wrote: Penalties! Anyways people. again, vote according to the plan. If someone votes differently we'll take it as a scum claim and we'll kill him later (like usual). I guess not much will happen until the flip, so let's enjoy the match! (hmm, I don't really know who to root for, instinctively I want Chelsea to win since I always watch the EPL, but I want Chelsea to lose since I will LOL so much since they'll miss the next year's CL and Spurs will go instead ) Now at this point I'm going to have to raise an objection. When is "later"? There are 7 people alive and you're telling us that if someone diverges we can just kill them later? How is that going to be possible when there are 2 people (sandroba and Mr. Wiggles) that everyone wants dead who are still alive? You went against the plan yesterday and sandroba is still alive and he shouldn't be. I'm not complaining that much because Palmar was my top suspect, but prphlz dying on top of that is suspect. How are you expecting to hold people accountable if something bad happens? As I said before just by the numbers your little trio there has at least one mafia in it. Getting a townie lynched yesterday instead of just one mafia seems like an incredibly anti-town maneuver. Especially since there doesn't seem to be any more night kills. | ||
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On May 21 2012 08:24 gonzaw wrote: It surely doesn't seem like that if as soon as we get a scum lynched you continue to bash our methods. Who do you think is Yokoya and Harimoto then? I posted a helpful chart with votes and shit so you can analyze them easier and so you don't need to waste time on looking at each Day/Night Post countless of times. Wasn't intending to bash that plan. I'm sorry it came across that way sir. | ||
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If that's the way you're going to be I don't know what to do. I don't think a townie in their right mind would just reveal that in the thread. Jubjub? I will follow the plan. Only because Wiggles is dying and I think he's mafia. Despite that, I will stand here and say that gonzaw is likely mafia. His plan does not make sense and does not fit in with what he's been pushing all game. My guess that there is still night KP floating around is just an idea. That's because the night kills are so sporatic and random. If he has a night KP left he has just won the game with his plan. I'm thinking that gonzaw is actually on BC's team. It seems likely that BC's team shot Foolishness. Foolishness told me before he died that BC always shoots him when he is mafia. That makes sense that it happened this game since Foolishness was suspicious of him right before he died. If this is true it means that chaoser and gonzaw both voted the same the day after BC was lynched. I find that unlikely but given how much Foolishness talked with gonzaw about mafia votes I can't rule it out. Given how the night kills have turned out I'm thinking that each mafia team has 2 hits that they can't use consecutively. Palmar's team shot Ace and wherebugsgo. BC's team shot Foolishness and nobody else. 3rd party shot syllogism. This is just speculation and not what I'm trying to argue. What I wonder is, why are we going through with a plan to lynch all the "suspicious" people when there are still 6 people alive and we are not in lylo as you claim? This plan seems like a dangerous rush to just end the game now. Everyone seems to agree that Wiggles is mafia. Let's just kill him and talk some more. You and Meapak have been soooo sure all game that we're not in lylo and that we have time. The past two days you have just wanted to lynch one person and move on. Take things slowly. Now we need to kill 3 people at once? That does not follow. Not to mention I've heard Meapak, gonzaw, and ET all say that they think sloosh is one of their top town reads at one point in the game. Earlier in the game people said the same thing about me. I understand opinions will change. But this is just flat out silly and does not make sense. Why does ET get the free pass to safety but Sloosh does not? I agree that ET is likely town but sloosh has done far more in the thread than ET has. Furthermore you're kingmaker scenario is ridiculous. A townie would not settle for a draw. There have been minor bumps, but town has outperformed mafia I think. Also like I said if you claim we're not in lylo and there's no more night kills why rush to finish the game and risk a draw/kingmaker? If you're a townie and reading this, you should not be happy with this plan when there is a possibility for a draw. Simple solution? Let's just kill Wiggles and talk some more. We have time right? You are way too adamant about their not being any more night kills. Personally I think it's rather silly that mafia we're given so little KP. Or not given some role to help them along. This game has gone on for a long time. We all know the longer a game goes the harder it is for mafia. I don't find it reasonable the hosts set this game up knowing that for the mafia to win they would have to survive 8-9 days. PM manipulation can only get you so far before you slip. You are too confident about what is going on and how the setup of the game is. Meapak too. Your plan does not make sense from a town perspective. There has to be an agenda behind it. Everyone should be able to see this. Either gonzaw is mafia (most likely) or Meapak or ET has puppet strings attached to him. I don't find that likely because gonzaw is outspoken and is able to think for himself. I don't think he would let that happen. | ||
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You guys fail to address my argument. This plan is not pro town and should not be followed. Whether you think I'm mafia or not has nothing to do with my reasoning. Any townie should be able to see this. You both fail to answer a crucial question. Why are we not just killing Wiggles today? You all claim we can just "kill people tomorrow". Like we have all the time in the world. Now you're acting like we don't have time. Obviously there is something wrong here. | ||
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On May 22 2012 09:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Katina you should reread the thread. After bugs died I jumped in a grabbed the reins for a day. I assumed I was going to die that night so I preemptively tried to make sure gonzaw would have control for the next day. Since scum ran out of KP or something neither of us have died and I see no reason to try and wrest control of the thread from gonzaw for some reason. You have no idea how much the three of us have PM'd (gonzaw and myself especially), you pushing gonzaw simply because "he's the one taking charge" is utterly ridiculous. Does that mean that townies should never take charge? I'd like to remind you that since the day I took over from WBG, my circle has killed 5 people, 3 of them are scum, and there are scum from both teams in there. While gonzaw and I have created the majority of the plans, ET was constantly kept in the loop (even on the plans that we kept secret from the thread). Had any of us been scum it would have been really easy for scum to save our targets multiple times. You really have no idea how our circle has worked so you jumping on gonzaw because he's been the most visible in the thread for the past few days is mindbogglingly dumb. As for your "crucial question" of only killing wiggles, why wait? We can win the game today. We still have no idea how scum KP works, why run the risk of the remaining scum killing one of us tonight when we can win today. I was part of the circle until the past few days so I do know how it works. It's not like you guys keep things hidden. Your last paragraph makes no sense. You just made my argument for me. We don't know how scum KP works. If us 3 die as planned and there's still a mafia alive it could be gg. If we just kill Wiggles and let things go another day then there's no risk of mafia KP interferring. And no you cannot for sure win the game today, because you don't know for sure who is mafia. This plan makes no sense in regards to the other plan. Why didn't we do this yesterday? Wiggles, myself, and sandroba were all in the majority. Why didn't you advocate killing all of us yesterday? You claimed that we had time and there was no sense taking risks. Now you want to take a huge risk. Your actions are inconsistent with the past few days. I find it hard to believe that both you (Meapak) and gonzaw are mafia, so it makes more sense that gonzaw is mafia and you are just being manipulated. Did gonzaw come up with this plan or did you? Or did ET? From my perspective and after being in your circle earlier in the game it seems most likely that gonzaw came up with this plan. Hence he is the mafia. From his perspective it makes a lot of sense. He couldn't try to enact a plan like this until there were only a few people alive and chance of interference was negligible. Don't jubjub along. There is clearly an agenda behind this plan. | ||
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On May 23 2012 04:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol you took orders from us, you were never part of the circle. You're right, we don't know how scum KP works, that's why we're killing all three of you today so we don't have to worry about scum suddenly killing us all tonight. And yes, we can for sure win today. Yesterday we made it look like we might try and multilynch to see who panicked, it worked surprisingly well tbh. Now the opportunity to kill all of you has presented itself so why not take it. If you're going to make up statements like "my actions are inconsistent" you really should at least make up some facts to back them up. As for the plans, the one that killed palmar/prp with the phony voting systems was my idea, the one yesterday that killed sandro but made it look like we were killing multiple people was gonzaw's idea. Really, you're just flailing at this point. Let's look at you for a second. You have hardly played this game at all. Other than occasional jabs at Palmar, you have refused to do anything useful what so ever. You're riding on foolishness's read of you. But suddenly, now that there's a very real chance you'll die, you're talkative. You have no real case against any of ET/gonzaw/myself so instead you're reduced to wildly throwing accusations which make no sense if you think about them logically for a second (I mean seriously, is making plans really a scum tactic?). The PM to sloosh was just icing on the cake, only a scum would feel the need to quietly try and spread distrust. If you were a townie, you could... idk... make an analysis in the thread to prove your suspicions? Could we end the day as soon as protact receives all the votes? I am certain that gonzaw is mafia now and I'm certain that you are not. This has nothing to do with me dying. If you guys had picked me and me alone to die today I would sit here and defend myself as much as I could. The problem is the plan has a clear agenda behind it. It is not pro town. As I said I don't think you are mafia but when tomorrow rolls around you have to kill gonzaw. I didn't mean to say your actions are inconsistent. The plan is inconsistent with your circle. And I'm sure gonzaw's the reason for it. Open your eyes and don't be a jubjub. | ||
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On May 23 2012 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: If I may borrow from Ace for a minute, I feel this is appropriate: And if I may quote Ace for a minute, I feel it is appropriate: On August 06 2011 20:35 Ace wrote: Even dumber than 2 years ago. Player A: Prove you're Town. Player B: What? That absurdly ridi- Player A: He can't do it! Lynch him! Jubjubs (chanting): It makes so much sense! Lynch him! or the equally stupid because it's the same thing: Player A: Prove you aren't Mafia. Player B: .... Player A: He's defending himself! Lynch him! Defending yourself is a scumtell! Jubjubs: My god! Why didn't we see this before! *smacks collective forehead* There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Try to be on the ignorant side, ok? | ||
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On May 23 2012 10:28 gonzaw wrote: Katina, I can't take you seriously if your only reason for thinking I'm scum is "He made the plan for today". You can't say anything like "The plan is inconsistent with your circle" because you know shit about our circle. You better not make any "tomorrow" happening and follow the plan. Seriously, if one of you scum decides to fuck with us to prolong the game even further I'll rage. You can end the game right now, so we can get to the juicy stuff of Post-Game discussion, and analyzing our play, etc, instead of having to wait 72 more hours (or even more). I'm only following the plan to make the rest of these people realize you're mafia a bit faster. When ET and/or Meapak realizes I've been right this whole time I will enjoy watching you flail around like a magikarp! It's also lovely how you continue to ignore my arguments about your plan and instead counter with "lol no you mafia!" | ||
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