If chaoser/meapak/sandroba are mafia, they obviously won't let two of their team mates die today. Chaoser has already established that he thinks meapak is town, so he will probably give all his votes to meapak and meapak may or may not do the same for him. I suppose I can tell sandroba not to vote for those two, but if he does, we can't really conclude that they are all mafia and on the same team just from the fact sandroba voted for them.

The problem is that if one of them is town, it's possible that the person in question will get lynched instead of sheth.

Anyway, just follow prplhz plan, but I expect only one of them to actually get lynched unless they decide to forfeit.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 18:47 GMT

#1102

This seems too easy though, but we do have basically 3 claimed mafia to lynch if chaoser and/or meapak end up being town

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:01 GMT

#1104

I'm not actually trying to find the whole team at once and I would be much happier if I could lynch you/sandroba/ceph first and then decide how to proceed. You have already claimed mafia, so if you somehow end up flipping town I would be requesting a ban due to not playing for your win con. So please stop trolling/insulting

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:06 GMT

#1106

You are arguing with someone who also said this

ironically those who aren't really caring about finding mafia are probably the towniest or just the laziest

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:18 GMT

#1111

Feel free to argue about your other reads while I'm gone, but listen to whatever Palmar/WBG say. Prplhz plan is fine but if wbg wants to tweak it to guarantee that only sheth dies, that's fine by me. Any plan that involves killing someone other than one of sheth/chaoser/meapak or that leaves someone we want to save with fewer than 8 votes is not acceptable. Make sure you vote correctly.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:20 GMT

#1112

On May 08 2012 04:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:

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I have never claimed mafia. I geuss the point of this game is lying, but come on syllo. Hopefully the rest of you can see threw syllo's idiocracy.

No townie would ever say something like this

ironically those who aren't really caring about finding mafia are probably the towniest or just the laziest

You are not amusing anymore, you are just trolling. Go away.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:25 GMT

#1117

Feel free to consult the rules of the game. Trolling and intentionally making people believe you are mafia by saying things that are manifestly wrong is according to any reasonable interpretation of the rule playing against your win con and worth a modkill/ban. It is basically the worst thing you can do in mafia aside form blatant cheating.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:32 GMT

#1121

If you have to vote and leave before wbg gets here, vote according to the plan and PM wbg that you did

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 07 2012 19:38 GMT

#1125

How can you honestly believe in everything you said here, it seems completely impossible

I've figured out why I'm being targeted like this btw.

If you are mafia you actually want to kill other mafia. So that makes sense that syllo's mafia play would still be this hunting really badly for the other house. Anyway I'm town, and I think my flip will actually help town more then anything else I can do because you guys seem to just assume I'm mafia regardless of what I say. Look at Gonzaw the kid has a good chance of being mafia.

I'm saying I decided you weren't mafia because you were scum hunting in a good fashion going after people not necessarily me in general. But I realize now as Mafia you'd be wanting to do the same thing. It actually kind of messes up my reads on everyone and ironically those who aren't really caring about finding mafia are probably the towniest or just the laziest, because mafia should really be trying to clean out the other house quite a lot.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 05:08 GMT

#1187

Another Bill Murray situation, hard to believe it

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 05:11 GMT

#1189

I'm not talking about you

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 11:45 GMT

#1201

On May 04 2012 04:25 gonzaw wrote:
chaoser is another one. The thing that made me less confident about pushing him is that a lot of people were starting to think he was town all of a sudden, and I thought something was going on in PM-land that made them think that.
Yet I didn't receive any info from anyone about this, and chaoser himself isn't responding to my PMs either, so I don't know wtf happened.

So I'm re-evaluating things in the light of what happened last night and noticed this. Who were the people who were starting to think he was town and did you PM them to ask why? Your playstyle is very aggressive, so I'm finding this explanation very dubious. Who have you been in PM contact with and can I see your logs?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 13:16 GMT

#1208

Also Wiggles any thoughts on chaoser/meapak or anyone at all? You started out fine, but you have faded a bit since then and I don't really have a clue about your suspicions

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 14:17 GMT

#1210

Some flawless logic there, you are clearly town chaoser

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 14:21 GMT

#1211

You are right about meapak though, I will reconsider him when I have time. He has to actually resume playing though. Care you explain your ET/Palmar reads?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 14:24 GMT

#1213

I've no problem being wrong and it wouldn't be just me being wrong. Who have you been right about again?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 14:28 GMT

#1214

On day 1 you wanted ot lynch Palmar, on day 2 you wanted to lynch ET and yesterday Sheth, so I'm a bit confused as to why you even bother making that assertion.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 14:55 GMT

#1218

Here's your mafia list:

sandro/ceph/sheth/ET/Palmar

I see a distinct lack of sloosh/prplhz. So are you saying that you think they are mafia after all? Are you going to produce that case on ET tonight? Tomorrow? Ever? I asked sheth/meapak/you to make a case on someone and none of you have.

Meanwhile I wanted to lynch sandroba on day 1 (likely mafia, you agree), bc/ceph on day 2 (mafia, likely mafia) and the jury is still out on you and meapak. Yes what an awful track record.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 15:27 GMT

#1231

Did meapak think you are town Chaoser? I find it weird he rather threw his votes away than saved you if that is the case. Did he know you were getting votes from someone else? His filter seems quite devoid of any mentions of you, though he indirectly defended you early on. Did you know sandroba defended you on day 1 in his PMs with me?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 08 2012 15:32 GMT

#1234

I'm not so sure about that; it was likely that only one person gets lynched on day 1 and even if they all ended up on the same side that was likely going to be sandroba. If sandroba isn't there, a lot of people were suspicious of chaoser so they might have ended up losing one then anyway. Regardless, it's a bit strange that sandroba has been letting us control his votes like this if he is mafia with those two unless they knew they would be saved anyway.

Still, it's way too premature to speculate about that before we even get one flip.