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By the way, he sent me this PM last night
Original Message From Cephiro:
BC has played very openly and been honest about his opinions. Although his town play is not perfect, I could say the same about several others in this game. Add that on top of the PMs and reactions from certain people opposing him, I have absolutely no reason to believe he is scum.
At the moment I am fairly sure you are town, but I am not completely sure of a few things:
1) Why the buddying with Palmar
2) Your most posts seem very towny to me, but yet you keep pushing this very anti-town plan, there is no way for people suddenly trust you or Palmar any more than anyone else, and you nor Palmar have much town-cred to back it up imo.
Also, interesting fact: There are a lot of players being called out for not scumhunting or making cases (especially in thread). Fact is, I don't see either of you two doing it either.
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Sheth and Sandroba are in the minority. Who are you going to vote to keep alive?
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We have basis for calling him town, we just haven't explained it in public and aren't particularly interested in convincing mafia. The only "people" who seriously "suspect" us are mafia.
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Sheth you forgot to comment on cephiro, the guy who you allegedly gave 5 votes. Any thoughts on his defence of BC?
BC has played very openly and been honest about his opinions. Although his town play is not perfect, I could say the same about several others in this game. Add that on top of the PMs and reactions from certain people opposing him, I have absolutely no reason to believe he is scum.
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No, you don't even have to filter him. How likely do you think it is that a townie uses phrases such as "although his town play is not perfect"? Cephiro doesn't know he is town, he just has a town read on him, so the phrase is very peculiar. Also he references vague "reactions from certain people opposing him" as evidence of him being town, which is quite bizarre as I've no idea what reactions or people he could possible even be referring to.
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Oh you are just a mafia trolling at this point, yawn
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In that case you should just ask palmar for guidance and sheep him, because you've a strong town read on him and presumably you think he is a good player and his reads are basically completely opposite to yours. But I have actually seen your town play and this is not it.
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I'm re-evaluating sheth because he is somehow managing to convince me that him saying things he can't possibly believe in isn't indicative of him being mafia.
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I have never said that I suspected VE or Ace and quite clearly wanted to lynch Sandroba on day 1
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WBG are you going to answer my PMs? This is getting pretty annoying
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This game is incredibly stressful as I have to argue/coordinate with every single player in the game and now sandroba is back and acting all insulted for no reason. Yes how could we possibly think he is mafia
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Sloosh: Palmar was supposed to vote prplhz and forgot I guess
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Foolishness I would be very interested to hear who you would like to lynch tomorrow.
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The funny thing is that I told sandroba to spread his votes like that
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If I happen to die tonight, listen to Palmar first, WBG second and no one after that unless they tell you to. Thanks.
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I was actually getting suspicious of foolishness due to how stubborn he was being and based on some of the explanations he had for his reads in our PM conversations. Anyway, I'm going to keep pushing to lynch obvious mafia before I start getting paranoid. Once again, I don't think we can have a plan for round A other than RNGing the answers.
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We have been giving mafia way too much information about our suspicions, but I just can't force myself to play any other way as it's not fun. Consequently the game is going to be very dull while we attempt to actually get them lynched. Also:
Original Message From Liquid`Sheth:
Phew, glad you lived. o o
Original Message From Liquid`Sheth: Sure : Bloody : Just so you know I'm not just blindly giving my votes to Cephiro. I'm just fishing for responses. You're one of my candidates for recieving votes! : ] Meapak : Also, just so you know I'm not blindly giving all my votes to Cephiro. I simply want to see responses. I'm sure digging a whole with my talking to bc. But thats what I sent  Show nested quote +Original Message From syllogism: Can I see the logs with BC? Original Message From Liquid`Sheth: I actually told Meapak_ziphh and BC. Meapak brought it up in thread, I geuss he told WBG. Also yea kind of ironic that I told BC that if him and ceph are mafia together. Original Message From syllogism:
Can I get a list of people who you told about your cephiro gambit
"I told several people before I did this so it should be unarguable"
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What is the lacking context? What do you think I'm saying? Feel free to explain the context if you think the PMs do not speak for themselves. I'm sure posting the actual BC logs would provide additional context. For some reason it took you quite a while to respond to the request, despite the fact I replied to your PM immediately after receiving it.
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Yes, I know meapak verified the story and I have seen your logs with him. You have provided no logs of your conversations with BC, unless he never replied and you randomly decided to PM him without talking to him at all about anything. It seems to me you should have PMed your #1 town read, Palmar instead if you wanted to keep that information secret so you could see how people react.
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On May 07 2012 13:12 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 07 2012 12:55 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Why would I forge a PM to BC if I could have simply said I didn't PM him?
Just give me an answer to that please. because you said you PMed more than one person about the bluff, and Meapak was only one person. derp. Could have said Ace or Foolishness. derp back at ya.
Ace died n1 and you replied to me before day 3 post and even if you hadn't you couldn't know what he had told everyone else.
Not that we need to catch you at a lie to get you lynched as everything about your play screams mafia. If someone actually needs an explanation, we can provide one as otherwise I don't see the need.
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