I presume we would then, having identified 3 mafia, not follow the plan on the following day and then lynch them one by one. We should, however, move on to more important matters as it is clear people aren't willing to follow the strategy today at least.

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Finland5948 Posts

April 30 2012 20:57 GMT

#224

Sometimes all it takes is one post to get a solid town read on someone, you should read some guides Ace

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April 30 2012 21:13 GMT

#237

On May 01 2012 06:10 chaoser wrote:

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can't tell if being sarcastic or...

That's the kind of reply his "oh how can someone possibly have a town read mere 12 pages into the game!" (he says that every game too) comment deserves.

Anyway, sandroba seems too disinterested both in-thread and over PMs to be town. Sandroba are you going to post your sheth suspicions in the thread as well or not going to bother?

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April 30 2012 21:17 GMT

#243

On May 01 2012 06:15 Cephiro wrote:

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I mean exactly what I said. I promise nothing to no-one as of that moment. Try and gain my trust if you want such to happen.

I've caught up on the thread.

I will not be agreeing with this whole "Palmar for King"-thingy.

I am already suspicious of a few people.

Well that is a completely pointless statement then but okay

Who are you suspicious of and why? Why did you find it important to point out you have suspicions and then didn't bother to name any?

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Finland5948 Posts

April 30 2012 21:22 GMT

#248

I'm happy to tell you that I indeed have quite a few claims. I think some are mafia though

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 07:31 GMT

#414

On May 01 2012 13:29 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
As of now I'm going to give 1 to Cephiro, 1 to Viscera eyes, 1 to Radfield and 2 I haven't decided yet. Wiggles is looking good with Meapak probably. Anyway just going to be open about where I'm voting and who I feel I want to stick around.

Don't give Cephiro anything until he posts his suspicions in public and explains why that information couldn't be made public before. It's quite difficult to believe town cephiro genuinely believes that sharing his scum reads in public is detrimental and his excuses are just making him look worse.

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 12:42 GMT

#425

No, all you have provided so far is a completely nonsensical explanation and if everyone followed your logic, the game would be impossible to analyze. No one cares if you don't have sufficient evidence yet, just knowing your suspicions and having some sort of basic justification for them is sufficient. Talking to you appears to be a waste of time, however.

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 12:51 GMT

#427

Oh I see you basically posted your suspicions inside that spoiler, that's much better, though I'm almost afraid to ask justifications for some of them

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 15:14 GMT

#429

Chaoser do you still think palmar and me are scum together?

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 16:19 GMT

#431

Katina you seemed worried about King Palmar plan distracting from actual mafia hunting, but you personally have voiced no suspicions at all. Further, do you really think the rather heated discussion that followed produced no useful information at all, especially in terms of connections, or more accurately disconnections? While you unfortunately aren't up for lynch today, I'm very interested in hearing from you too

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 19:26 GMT

#455

There are so many egos and players who are incapable of cooperating with anyone even when they are town, so it's going to be pretty much impossible to lynch multiple players today except by sheer luck.

Sandroba didn't even bother defending himself today when I PMed and told him that I believe he is mafia and everything about his play suggests this is the apathetic mafia Sandroba. He seemed quite interested in the game before it started as we discussed the setup quite extensively. I suppose it is possible that he really has just been busy due to brazilian holidays, but it's not just his activity I've a problem with, but also his tone. Even when he has been here, he hasn't been interested in talking with me, which is pretty much the opposite of what he does as town. And I'm sure he knows by now that I'm town.

So since we can likely only kill one today, he should definitely be it as things stand.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 20:20 GMT

#466

I'm going to be voting in about 30 minutes and then I'll be off. I will likely be spreading my votes between radfield, wiggles and someone else.

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Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 20:53 GMT

#471

I got to go, but while I'm gone I would like to see sheth explain why he thinks that Gonzaw has been playing his "scum meta" and has been "useless". He also seemed quite worried about dying due to not getting enough votes, which frankly sounded quite artificial. This is all from a PM conversation with him. Not the first PM discussion either in which it felt like he was just making stuff up. We should still prioritize sandroba lynch, but I'm quite suspicious of sheth right now.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 01 2012 21:01 GMT

#474

Yes, in a game where cooperation is essential we are stuck with some players who are completely incapable of doing that. I'm sure they aren't all mafia and even if they are, I think they would be playing in a quite similar fashion anyway.

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Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 06:03 GMT

#610

Sheth never bothered to explain to me why he claims gonzaw is playing according to his "scum meta" or has been "useless". Meanwhile he gave 4 votes to cephiro for "defending himself", "meta read" and because he has played games on irc with him. I don't think sheth has even played games with either of them before.

BC you aren't even playing the game, how unexpected

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Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 06:20 GMT

#612

On May 02 2012 13:12 Foolishness wrote:
More than one person has some explaining to do.

Really, who? Why bother saying that and not naming any names

On May 02 2012 14:08 Foolishness wrote:

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Wrong, right.

I'm pretty sure 2 mafia revealed themselves in the votes though.

Do you really think sandroba's team mates would have voted for him when he is completely afk and might just get flipped during the night?

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Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 06:28 GMT

#613

If sandroba is mafia and you are his team mate, you don't even know how many votes it takes to save him, so you just risk linking yourself with him for no reason at all. It's completely ridiculous to clear him based on that.

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Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 10:51 GMT

#621

BC when did you send in your 4 sheth votes and why?

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May 02 2012 14:19 GMT

#632

No the plan is only bad if the person in charge is mafia and he isn't. If you can't tell that he is town by now, that is your own failure but does not make the plan bad. If you analyzing the game and not finding townies, you are playing very, very wrong.

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Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 14:30 GMT

#634

I'm not going to bother addressing the rest of your post, but I don't have to be 100% sure, something like 95% will do just fine and is sufficient to justify any plan that requires him to be town most of the time.