Liar Game Mini Mafia - Page 17

On May 01 2012 08:31 Radfield wrote:


Lets imagine all town followed a plan of putting the most pro-town players on the minority, and everyone else on the majority. Where does that plan go wrong?

On May 01 2012 08:39 Cephiro wrote:

You think you found 2 scum, well good for you. Now come up with enough evidence so that the town believes you, and then we'll see if we can get them killed?

On May 01 2012 08:39 Ace wrote:


The most Pro-Town players aren't the Confirmed Town players. That is a dumb idea.

On May 01 2012 08:39 Cephiro wrote:


Just because I am not doing something productive in your opinion, _in the thread_, does not mean I wouldn't actually be doing productive stuff. Everything I do has a reason. As for "disappearing from the face of earth", as much as I like mafia games, even I have a life to live.

I am not opposed to plans if they are good. So far I don't like what I see, and I have no game-breaking plan to offer either. Just because I was doing some "super-mega-epic-plan" in an earlier game does not mean I would do it in this game. Just stop trying to metagame, you are shooting yourself in the head. Whatever I have done in any games before does in no way relate to what I do now. I do not say that "All D1 plan discussions are stupid", but that statement is true to my opinion when we are talking about the D1 of this game in this thread.

I have no hatred against plans, you are just overthinking and confirmation biasing your own thoughts.
You think you found 2 scum, well good for you. Now come up with enough evidence so that the town believes you, and then we'll see if we can get them killed?

I did not say I will use PMs to only answer questions, you've misunderstood once again.
Also, I just explained the thing about false reads. Read it again.

Basically: If I have information that I do not scum want to know, why on earth should I make it public for them? I'll gladly share my reads which do not involve information scum can benefit about in such a manner, but certain things are best kept secret, or shared with only a few chosen ones.

Point is, you're best off not trying to continue pressuring me based on your current suspicions, as they've lead you to false conclusions. I don't mind defending myself at all, especially if you feel like I do something that you find scummy. But for now, you'd be best off dropping it, concentrating on others, and observing my play and see if you can find flaws later on. Even if I would be mafia, what you have wouldn't be enough to convince people.

And trust me, some things are best left out of the thread. I also have not contradicted myself.

On May 01 2012 08:41 Ace wrote:


You gonna let him just talk to you like that? If it was me there is no way that would happen. Stand up for yourself.

A) Having a smaller number players in the majority is more advantageous than having a larger number. This should be self-evident, but the smaller the majority, the better chance town has of keeping townies alive and lynching mafia. Foolishless laid it out quite well earlier.

On May 01 2012 08:59 chaoser wrote:


how is it more advantageous again? if people are in risk of being lynched/killed, they're more likely to talk and so it's easier to find mafia...how is more people in round 2 bad???

On May 01 2012 09:24 chaoser wrote:
here, let me ask a question to you radfield. What's the difference between people in the minority and the majority? Minority can't die right? Why would you take away a threat to a player like that? It makes no sense.

If you have a system in place to make it so that round 2 proceeds in an orderly manner then everything works out perfectly. I sent this to WBG already but I'll post it here as well.

for round two, it's based on whoever has the lowest points will be lynched right? so I was thinking of basing it on a gradient system. Most scummy, no points. We then have the rest pass points in a system following the player order.

so lets say it's like 5 people in the majority and 1 person in the minority. that's 25 points. lets say we think a is mafia. so the players are a, b, c, d, e, f

we think f is townie so he's in minority cause we need one. we move onto round 2.

b gives all his points to c, c gives all his points to d, d gives to e, e gives to b. If we all circle then a will have zero points. even if mafia was trying to save a, the two teams members would have to give 6 points total to save him. Because of the circle system, there's no way a can make back the deficient with his 5 points for both his teammates; one of his teammates will be adjacent to someone without 5 votes. That person is also mafia then.

f will be giving his votes, spread as evenly as possible, into the crowd of b, c, d, e. If things look wrong then f is suspicious.

WBG suggested to me that we do it so that everyone only cycles 4 votes and they give their one vote to whomever they want so that accountability would be an element and I agree. There's no way a would be able to get out of this situation unless his teammates out themselves.