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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 13 2012 05:08 GMT
#1861
On May 13 2012 12:30 zelblade wrote:
Taking a look at the sinani train yesterday.

First off it starts with Acrofales thinking that Maju "might" be town.
Drazerk sheeps.
Than Forumite switches from bluelightz to sinani, stating that he doesnt support a Maju lynch.
Prplhz votes sinani too, saying he is unsure about Maju.
Our dear empress Hassy switches off bluelightz too.
Opz decides to get on the wagon.
Followed by Jitsu after realising that his fail case isnt doing anything.

Thats a total of 7 voters who tried to push the lynch off Maju. This also points to sinani being town not mafia, unless there are multipe scum teams of course, which means we (sadly) should leave him alone even though he probably isnt going to do anything.

I do think that scum tried to save Maju through this lynch. I have a pretty strong town read on Acro and I am still fairly confident on it, and even if we are sure hes scum we leave him alive till all the scummy scum below him (in the playerlist) dies. prplhz I read as town too and hes like the most indecisive guy when it comes to lynches so I will give him a pass.

Which leaves us with 5.

Not surprisingly, all of them are actually pretty scummy.



I am not going to make 5 cases at once, so I will focus on my strongest read first - Forumite. I have been suspicious of him all game long, for quite a few things. One of the main things is simply this: look at his D1 voting history. He first tries to get a wagon started on a lurker (bagmanager), than changes his vote onto potatohead. Before this 2nd vote, he states that potatohead's logic is flawed, and he needs to step up.
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On May 12 2012 02:04 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:45 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:41 Bluelightz wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:34 Bluelightz wrote:
If you might be asking 'who is your suspicion BL?' well, I'm answering now.

First, I really want to kill each and every last smurf who has not revealed themselves yet, they are muddying our discussion (P-Body i am looking at you), and they are being useless and only trolling.

Second, Mattchew still seems suspicious to me as he is only randomly throwing out 'omg bluelightz is not playing to his latest town meta' or 'dont vote acro vote me' without explanation of really, ANYTHING.




Answer's to Acrofales's question:

Mr. Potatohead: This guy should die asap as he is like my previous points muddying the town atmosphere and has not revealed himself.

Hassybaby: Well, from my observation he spent almost 1 and a half of his filter trolling about cat faces, then dodged my reasons for why it is horrible to have him as empress, also please point out Hassy's throwing around of target's, I don't see it.

It's a tarp!

##Vote Bluelightz


Can this count as sheeping without valid reasoning or some bullshit?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at so few?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum. But you know I'm not scum.


I will wifom your wifom if you wifom your wifom a bit for me, capiche?

I am glad you have decided to lead the troops, Duke von Wolfenstein. However, I dislike your entire long post, AND this short post, because it manages to say nothing with a lot of words... and later nothing with few words!

To assuage my suspicions, please tell me who you are, and who your votes went to for Emperor and Empress.

If I have said nothing then you guys have also said nothing. Lol.

From what I can tell, this is exactly what you should be saying if you are a scum emperor. You should discredit my logic, because my logic paints you scum if you accuse me. Why?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at [me]?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum.

Go on, kill me. I dare you. Then people will look back and we'll see if I was really saying nothing.
Potatohead, your logic is flawed. You acted scummy and got called out for it, that doesn´t mean shit. You could just as well have been called out by a townie who wanted you to shape up. Stop actively trying to act scum or you will convince us to lynch you.

On May 12 2012 02:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
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On May 12 2012 02:37 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:35 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Note the timeline,

On May 10 2012 22:40 Forumite wrote:
I voted thus:
Acrofales for Emperor
Hassybaby for Empress


On May 11 2012 02:33 Forumite wrote:
##Vote Emperor: Acrofales
##Vote Empress: Hassybaby


On May 11 2012 07:44 Caller wrote:
Day 1

[image loading]

The pope arrives...

It is a grand ceremony, with nobles of every rank strutting about like a bunch of cardinals before the slaughter. I mean chickens.

Suddenly, he arrives, Acrofales, the Kaiser elected by the Lords of the Holy Roman Empire. His Empress, the Kaiserin Hassybaby, walking slowly by his side.

...

Arf?

He accurately called both emperor and empress. Twice for good measure.

Because of this it is extra likely that he is scum and that these are the two people scum were aiming for. Would be pretty stupid to leave a trail like this though.
I like it how you refute your own argument against me in the last reply.

If you think there´s something weird about the election then give me the full list of votes and show me a discrepancy. If you don´t have anything suggesting Carolus should have won, then this only looks like you are angry that town voted like I did and not how you wanted them to, and try to take it out on me.

On May 12 2012 03:36 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Why would you be confused? Do you think Hassy is not town?

Haven't a bunch of people been saying you need to stop asking ppl to talk and start talking yourself.

Have you even directly denied being scum, and directly claimed being town yet? Link plz.

He doesn´t have to deny he´s scum, because everyone would answer the same to that question. Demanding it of him is pointless. Shape up!

Reading this, does anyone feel that Forumite is calling Potatohead scum? It feels to me at least that he feels Potatohead is a dumb townie, not actually scum, thus asking him to shape up and stuff - "stop actively trying to act scum". He than realises that he needs an easy lynch, so he tries to start another wagon later. Oh and he finally switches to sinani upon seeing that no one is going on his lonely wagon.

And not to mention that hes the first to use the term "anti-town", which according to the holy bible of Palmar is a scumclaim so there we go.

I voted for sinani until I finished reading the thread. From reading forumite's filter I thought he was town, acrofales has been out spoken, I thought he was town, and prphlz married me....-__-...Then I thought about it and I was hoping that Quicksilver was RoL or had the RoL luck...He damn sure was confident in his case and so was mattchew, whom I voted for for emp, so I switched over to the wagon I had already supported. I just wanted to make sure there was a split vote. I'll gladly die if you kill the rest of the voters for sinani, but I'm a lil to seasoned to do that as mafia...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
YES_THIS_IS_DOG
Profile Joined April 2012
United States88 Posts
May 13 2012 05:18 GMT
#1862
Acrofales what is your opinion on Forumite?
woof
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 13 2012 05:23 GMT
#1863
On May 13 2012 12:30 zelblade wrote:
Taking a look at the sinani train yesterday.

First off it starts with Acrofales thinking that Maju "might" be town.
Drazerk sheeps.
Than Forumite switches from bluelightz to sinani, stating that he doesnt support a Maju lynch.
Prplhz votes sinani too, saying he is unsure about Maju.
Our dear empress Hassy switches off bluelightz too.
Opz decides to get on the wagon.
Followed by Jitsu after realising that his fail case isnt doing anything.

Thats a total of 7 voters who tried to push the lynch off Maju. This also points to sinani being town not mafia, unless there are multipe scum teams of course, which means we (sadly) should leave him alone even though he probably isnt going to do anything.

I do think that scum tried to save Maju through this lynch. I have a pretty strong town read on Acro and I am still fairly confident on it, and even if we are sure hes scum we leave him alive till all the scummy scum below him (in the playerlist) dies. prplhz I read as town too and hes like the most indecisive guy when it comes to lynches so I will give him a pass.

Which leaves us with 5.

Not surprisingly, all of them are actually pretty scummy.



Also, I'm far from going to call prplhz a town read. He wanted to mason me, and has sent me one message, which I responded to timely, and haven't gotten a response or anything...Except him telling me what he thinks my role is. I told him at 4:56 KST I was gonna be voting Maju...Way before my last minute vote switch. Sry bro, I did it to lure votes.
Our "Conversation"
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To: prplhz [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Sup
Date: 5/13/12 04:56
Not blue. Green as the grass.

I'm voting Maju because I like the case on him. I think QuickSilver is RoL too so I have faith. I just posted a few more of my views. Carolus could very well be town, but hydras deserve to die. If I could kill him I would.

Why do you think I'm blue? I think you're blue. Or red. Dunno. You won't get no power/vote from me....Sad I know...Lol.

Original Message From prplhz:
Hey I think you are blue.

What reads you have right now? You started off pretty strong but you seem to be relaxing a little more as we get into the game. The Maju case is a little flaky but it's so early in the game and his lynch is facing no resistance. I think Carolus Magnus is probably town too and he has good reads, how do you feel about that?

Kind regards

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Original Message From ~OpZ~:
jeebs?


Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 13 2012 05:25 GMT
#1864
On May 13 2012 12:35 zelblade wrote:
EH WAIT i screwed up the voting thing.

I misread the voting thing here.

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##unvote sinani206
##Vote majuGarzett


I read it as the other way around lol. My bad we can strike Opz off that list.

Ninja'd -_-
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 13 2012 05:27 GMT
#1865
On May 13 2012 14:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 12:35 zelblade wrote:
EH WAIT i screwed up the voting thing.

I misread the voting thing here.

##unvote sinani206
##Vote majuGarzett


I read it as the other way around lol. My bad we can strike Opz off that list.

Ninja'd -_-

not ninja'd....old window raped -_-
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 13 2012 05:28 GMT
#1866
On May 13 2012 12:34 zelblade wrote:
Also apparently Drazerk supposedly HAS to follow what acro votes. wat.

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On May 13 2012 08:04 Bill Murray wrote:
also carolus claimed KNIGHT
the person who flipped was a frankfurter KNIGHT
suspiciiiiooouusss


So you think Carolus is scum after he just led a scum lynch? No? Than why the hell are you mentioning this? If your answer is yes I dont know what to say.

let's not get into confirmation bias off of d1
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 13 2012 05:29 GMT
#1867
On May 13 2012 09:39 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Jitsu looked pretty awful before the flip and looks worse now

are you reading
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 05:51 GMT
#1868
On May 13 2012 14:29 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 09:39 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Jitsu looked pretty awful before the flip and looks worse now

are you reading


are YOU reading
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 06:01 GMT
#1869
On May 13 2012 14:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 12:35 zelblade wrote:
EH WAIT i screwed up the voting thing.

I misread the voting thing here.

##unvote sinani206
##Vote majuGarzett


I read it as the other way around lol. My bad we can strike Opz off that list.

Ninja'd -_-


Yea sorry about that I misread the voting thread.

Regarding prplhz im not really sure. The switch does seem scummy, but it seems that he has a tendancy to do something like this as town. It is really wierd that he keeps asking people to sheep Carlous yet at the end of the day doesnt do so himself.

Scratch that I took a look at his filter and yea hes acting pretty dammed scummy too. Think I missed this post earlier:

On May 13 2012 06:20 prplhz wrote:
Yea this sinani206 lynch is moving a little too swiftly lol


1) Asks people to sheep Carlous
2) Says Maju case is weak
3) Votes Sinani
4) Says the lynch moving too swiftly - (he thinks its probably moving too fast to be a correct lynch?) yet doesnt switch off

No idea why I thought he was town earlier. Admittedly I was in a rush earlier so I didnt take a closer look at his filter
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18117 Posts
May 13 2012 06:34 GMT
#1870
On May 13 2012 14:18 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
Acrofales what is your opinion on Forumite?

I used to think he was town. His unwillingness to give reads, out of fear of getting shot by scum is scummy. His voting behaviour is scummy (specifically the Mr.Potatohead vote, for the reasons given by Zelblade).

Overall verdict: somewhat scummy.

I want people to ALSO take a close look at who voted bluelightz. Many of those were reluctant about even acknowledging Maju as scum from the very beginning and I still think bluelightz, out of the three lynch candidates looked the least likely to flip red, so:

ATLAS
Adam
Sinani
MajuGarzett
Bill Murray

I want to add an honorary Hassy on there, because I have the feeling that the only reason he switched off is because both Drazerk and I pressured him in private.

I cannot get a read on Adam. I think Sinani is scum. Not only did his reason to not vote Maju sound suspicious, but it can now be said he was soft defending his scumbuddy there. All of that out of a single post and action. Out of all the inactives, Sinani feels scummiest.

I am also starting to reconsider lynching Hassy. He was never really onboard with the Maju lynch, he ran for empress unopposed and has not been very forthcoming with his reads. In private he has insisted on bluelightz, and said CC and Quatol would be good lynches too.

Now I'm going sailing. Be back this afternoon late sometime.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 13 2012 07:27 GMT
#1871
On May 13 2012 15:34 Acrofales wrote:
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On May 13 2012 14:18 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
Acrofales what is your opinion on Forumite?

I used to think he was town. His unwillingness to give reads, out of fear of getting shot by scum is scummy. His voting behaviour is scummy (specifically the Mr.Potatohead vote, for the reasons given by Zelblade).

Overall verdict: somewhat scummy.

I want people to ALSO take a close look at who voted bluelightz. Many of those were reluctant about even acknowledging Maju as scum from the very beginning and I still think bluelightz, out of the three lynch candidates looked the least likely to flip red, so:

ATLAS
Adam
Sinani
MajuGarzett
Bill Murray

I want to add an honorary Hassy on there, because I have the feeling that the only reason he switched off is because both Drazerk and I pressured him in private.

I cannot get a read on Adam. I think Sinani is scum. Not only did his reason to not vote Maju sound suspicious, but it can now be said he was soft defending his scumbuddy there. All of that out of a single post and action. Out of all the inactives, Sinani feels scummiest.

I am also starting to reconsider lynching Hassy. He was never really onboard with the Maju lynch, he ran for empress unopposed and has not been very forthcoming with his reads. In private he has insisted on bluelightz, and said CC and Quatol would be good lynches too.

Now I'm going sailing. Be back this afternoon late sometime.

yeah dude.. mafia would NEVER vote for each other... stop being stupid.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 13 2012 07:37 GMT
#1872
I'm pretty sick of ~OpZ~ insisting that I don't message him.

Yesterday he wrote, in the same god damn post, "prplhz is scum because he didn't message me, oh wait he messaged me" and now he's all "prplhz is scum because he didn't message me more". I message you when I am at my computer and I have time and marriage is a fucking two way street. You were actually complaining that I didn't message you while you hadn't even messaged me outside of "sup".

The sinani lynch was moving a little too fast but so was the MajuGarzett lynch (and I said this in the thread too) and he was at least trying to play this game and some people are just slow starters.

I'll be around again later but I'm not too fond of people saying that I'm scum with no case at all, especially when I'm townie as fuck.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 13 2012 08:49 GMT
#1873
On May 13 2012 12:30 zelblade wrote:
Taking a look at the sinani train yesterday.

First off it starts with Acrofales thinking that Maju "might" be town.
Drazerk sheeps.
Than Forumite switches from bluelightz to sinani, stating that he doesnt support a Maju lynch.
Prplhz votes sinani too, saying he is unsure about Maju.
Our dear empress Hassy switches off bluelightz too.
Opz decides to get on the wagon.
Followed by Jitsu after realising that his fail case isnt doing anything.

Thats a total of 7 voters who tried to push the lynch off Maju. This also points to sinani being town not mafia, unless there are multipe scum teams of course, which means we (sadly) should leave him alone even though he probably isnt going to do anything.

I do think that scum tried to save Maju through this lynch. I have a pretty strong town read on Acro and I am still fairly confident on it, and even if we are sure hes scum we leave him alive till all the scummy scum below him (in the playerlist) dies. prplhz I read as town too and hes like the most indecisive guy when it comes to lynches so I will give him a pass.

Which leaves us with 5.

Not surprisingly, all of them are actually pretty scummy.



I am not going to make 5 cases at once, so I will focus on my strongest read first - Forumite. I have been suspicious of him all game long, for quite a few things. One of the main things is simply this: look at his D1 voting history. He first tries to get a wagon started on a lurker (bagmanager), than changes his vote onto potatohead. Before this 2nd vote, he states that potatohead's logic is flawed, and he needs to step up.
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On May 12 2012 02:04 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:45 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:41 Bluelightz wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:34 Bluelightz wrote:
If you might be asking 'who is your suspicion BL?' well, I'm answering now.

First, I really want to kill each and every last smurf who has not revealed themselves yet, they are muddying our discussion (P-Body i am looking at you), and they are being useless and only trolling.

Second, Mattchew still seems suspicious to me as he is only randomly throwing out 'omg bluelightz is not playing to his latest town meta' or 'dont vote acro vote me' without explanation of really, ANYTHING.




Answer's to Acrofales's question:

Mr. Potatohead: This guy should die asap as he is like my previous points muddying the town atmosphere and has not revealed himself.

Hassybaby: Well, from my observation he spent almost 1 and a half of his filter trolling about cat faces, then dodged my reasons for why it is horrible to have him as empress, also please point out Hassy's throwing around of target's, I don't see it.

It's a tarp!

##Vote Bluelightz


Can this count as sheeping without valid reasoning or some bullshit?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at so few?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum. But you know I'm not scum.


I will wifom your wifom if you wifom your wifom a bit for me, capiche?

I am glad you have decided to lead the troops, Duke von Wolfenstein. However, I dislike your entire long post, AND this short post, because it manages to say nothing with a lot of words... and later nothing with few words!

To assuage my suspicions, please tell me who you are, and who your votes went to for Emperor and Empress.

If I have said nothing then you guys have also said nothing. Lol.

From what I can tell, this is exactly what you should be saying if you are a scum emperor. You should discredit my logic, because my logic paints you scum if you accuse me. Why?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at [me]?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum.

Go on, kill me. I dare you. Then people will look back and we'll see if I was really saying nothing.
Potatohead, your logic is flawed. You acted scummy and got called out for it, that doesn´t mean shit. You could just as well have been called out by a townie who wanted you to shape up. Stop actively trying to act scum or you will convince us to lynch you.

On May 12 2012 02:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:37 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:35 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Note the timeline,

On May 10 2012 22:40 Forumite wrote:
I voted thus:
Acrofales for Emperor
Hassybaby for Empress


On May 11 2012 02:33 Forumite wrote:
##Vote Emperor: Acrofales
##Vote Empress: Hassybaby


On May 11 2012 07:44 Caller wrote:
Day 1

[image loading]

The pope arrives...

It is a grand ceremony, with nobles of every rank strutting about like a bunch of cardinals before the slaughter. I mean chickens.

Suddenly, he arrives, Acrofales, the Kaiser elected by the Lords of the Holy Roman Empire. His Empress, the Kaiserin Hassybaby, walking slowly by his side.

...

Arf?

He accurately called both emperor and empress. Twice for good measure.

Because of this it is extra likely that he is scum and that these are the two people scum were aiming for. Would be pretty stupid to leave a trail like this though.
I like it how you refute your own argument against me in the last reply.

If you think there´s something weird about the election then give me the full list of votes and show me a discrepancy. If you don´t have anything suggesting Carolus should have won, then this only looks like you are angry that town voted like I did and not how you wanted them to, and try to take it out on me.

On May 12 2012 03:36 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Why would you be confused? Do you think Hassy is not town?

Haven't a bunch of people been saying you need to stop asking ppl to talk and start talking yourself.

Have you even directly denied being scum, and directly claimed being town yet? Link plz.

He doesn´t have to deny he´s scum, because everyone would answer the same to that question. Demanding it of him is pointless. Shape up!

Reading this, does anyone feel that Forumite is calling Potatohead scum? It feels to me at least that he feels Potatohead is a dumb townie, not actually scum, thus asking him to shape up and stuff - "stop actively trying to act scum". He than realises that he needs an easy lynch, so he tries to start another wagon later. Oh and he finally switches to sinani upon seeing that no one is going on his lonely wagon.

And not to mention that hes the first to use the term "anti-town", which according to the holy bible of Palmar is a scumclaim so there we go.

I didn´t call him scum earlier because I wasn´t sure Mr. PotatoHead was being dumb or deliberately disruptive. I don´t like calling people scum unless I really have a good read, so I didn´t call him scum until Maju made his case.

Not sure about Mr. PotatoHead, Maju tried to push him, it could have been an attempt to look townie in the end, or maybe he was distansing himself from a scumbuddy, but after what happened in WoF I don´t want to test this. I don´t like his playstyle, which doesn´t make him scum, and Mr. PotatoHead was on the Maju lynch very early, and that´s a big green mark in my papers.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 13 2012 09:27 GMT
#1874
Duke Of WIFOMtopia is too full of himself and is liek too stupid to be scum, so he's town imo.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#1875
On May 13 2012 18:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Duke Of WIFOMtopia is too full of himself and is liek too stupid to be scum, so he's town imo.

Carolus?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 13 2012 09:36 GMT
#1876
On May 13 2012 18:33 Forumite wrote:
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On May 13 2012 18:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Duke Of WIFOMtopia is too full of himself and is liek too stupid to be scum, so he's town imo.

Carolus?


.... what?

HOW AM I A SMURF.....
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 13 2012 09:37 GMT
#1877
On May 13 2012 18:36 Bluelightz wrote:
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On May 13 2012 18:33 Forumite wrote:
On May 13 2012 18:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Duke Of WIFOMtopia is too full of himself and is liek too stupid to be scum, so he's town imo.

Carolus?


.... what?

HOW AM I A SMURF.....

I asked who you were talking about.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 13 2012 09:39 GMT
#1878
On May 13 2012 18:37 Forumite wrote:
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On May 13 2012 18:36 Bluelightz wrote:
On May 13 2012 18:33 Forumite wrote:
On May 13 2012 18:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Duke Of WIFOMtopia is too full of himself and is liek too stupid to be scum, so he's town imo.

Carolus?


.... what?

HOW AM I A SMURF.....

I asked who you were talking about.


ahh.... I'm talking about Mr.Potatowifom
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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 09:40 GMT
#1879
On May 13 2012 17:49 Forumite wrote:
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On May 13 2012 12:30 zelblade wrote:
Taking a look at the sinani train yesterday.

First off it starts with Acrofales thinking that Maju "might" be town.
Drazerk sheeps.
Than Forumite switches from bluelightz to sinani, stating that he doesnt support a Maju lynch.
Prplhz votes sinani too, saying he is unsure about Maju.
Our dear empress Hassy switches off bluelightz too.
Opz decides to get on the wagon.
Followed by Jitsu after realising that his fail case isnt doing anything.

Thats a total of 7 voters who tried to push the lynch off Maju. This also points to sinani being town not mafia, unless there are multipe scum teams of course, which means we (sadly) should leave him alone even though he probably isnt going to do anything.

I do think that scum tried to save Maju through this lynch. I have a pretty strong town read on Acro and I am still fairly confident on it, and even if we are sure hes scum we leave him alive till all the scummy scum below him (in the playerlist) dies. prplhz I read as town too and hes like the most indecisive guy when it comes to lynches so I will give him a pass.

Which leaves us with 5.

Not surprisingly, all of them are actually pretty scummy.



I am not going to make 5 cases at once, so I will focus on my strongest read first - Forumite. I have been suspicious of him all game long, for quite a few things. One of the main things is simply this: look at his D1 voting history. He first tries to get a wagon started on a lurker (bagmanager), than changes his vote onto potatohead. Before this 2nd vote, he states that potatohead's logic is flawed, and he needs to step up.
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On May 12 2012 02:04 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
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On May 12 2012 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:45 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:41 Bluelightz wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:34 Bluelightz wrote:
If you might be asking 'who is your suspicion BL?' well, I'm answering now.

First, I really want to kill each and every last smurf who has not revealed themselves yet, they are muddying our discussion (P-Body i am looking at you), and they are being useless and only trolling.

Second, Mattchew still seems suspicious to me as he is only randomly throwing out 'omg bluelightz is not playing to his latest town meta' or 'dont vote acro vote me' without explanation of really, ANYTHING.




Answer's to Acrofales's question:

Mr. Potatohead: This guy should die asap as he is like my previous points muddying the town atmosphere and has not revealed himself.

Hassybaby: Well, from my observation he spent almost 1 and a half of his filter trolling about cat faces, then dodged my reasons for why it is horrible to have him as empress, also please point out Hassy's throwing around of target's, I don't see it.

It's a tarp!

##Vote Bluelightz


Can this count as sheeping without valid reasoning or some bullshit?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at so few?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum. But you know I'm not scum.


I will wifom your wifom if you wifom your wifom a bit for me, capiche?

I am glad you have decided to lead the troops, Duke von Wolfenstein. However, I dislike your entire long post, AND this short post, because it manages to say nothing with a lot of words... and later nothing with few words!

To assuage my suspicions, please tell me who you are, and who your votes went to for Emperor and Empress.

If I have said nothing then you guys have also said nothing. Lol.

From what I can tell, this is exactly what you should be saying if you are a scum emperor. You should discredit my logic, because my logic paints you scum if you accuse me. Why?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at [me]?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum.

Go on, kill me. I dare you. Then people will look back and we'll see if I was really saying nothing.
Potatohead, your logic is flawed. You acted scummy and got called out for it, that doesn´t mean shit. You could just as well have been called out by a townie who wanted you to shape up. Stop actively trying to act scum or you will convince us to lynch you.

On May 12 2012 02:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
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On May 12 2012 02:37 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:35 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Note the timeline,

On May 10 2012 22:40 Forumite wrote:
I voted thus:
Acrofales for Emperor
Hassybaby for Empress


On May 11 2012 02:33 Forumite wrote:
##Vote Emperor: Acrofales
##Vote Empress: Hassybaby


On May 11 2012 07:44 Caller wrote:
Day 1

[image loading]

The pope arrives...

It is a grand ceremony, with nobles of every rank strutting about like a bunch of cardinals before the slaughter. I mean chickens.

Suddenly, he arrives, Acrofales, the Kaiser elected by the Lords of the Holy Roman Empire. His Empress, the Kaiserin Hassybaby, walking slowly by his side.

...

Arf?

He accurately called both emperor and empress. Twice for good measure.

Because of this it is extra likely that he is scum and that these are the two people scum were aiming for. Would be pretty stupid to leave a trail like this though.
I like it how you refute your own argument against me in the last reply.

If you think there´s something weird about the election then give me the full list of votes and show me a discrepancy. If you don´t have anything suggesting Carolus should have won, then this only looks like you are angry that town voted like I did and not how you wanted them to, and try to take it out on me.

On May 12 2012 03:36 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Why would you be confused? Do you think Hassy is not town?

Haven't a bunch of people been saying you need to stop asking ppl to talk and start talking yourself.

Have you even directly denied being scum, and directly claimed being town yet? Link plz.

He doesn´t have to deny he´s scum, because everyone would answer the same to that question. Demanding it of him is pointless. Shape up!

Reading this, does anyone feel that Forumite is calling Potatohead scum? It feels to me at least that he feels Potatohead is a dumb townie, not actually scum, thus asking him to shape up and stuff - "stop actively trying to act scum". He than realises that he needs an easy lynch, so he tries to start another wagon later. Oh and he finally switches to sinani upon seeing that no one is going on his lonely wagon.

And not to mention that hes the first to use the term "anti-town", which according to the holy bible of Palmar is a scumclaim so there we go.

I didn´t call him scum earlier because I wasn´t sure Mr. PotatoHead was being dumb or deliberately disruptive. I don´t like calling people scum unless I really have a good read, so I didn´t call him scum until Maju made his case.

Not sure about Mr. PotatoHead, Maju tried to push him, it could have been an attempt to look townie in the end, or maybe he was distansing himself from a scumbuddy, but after what happened in WoF I don´t want to test this. I don´t like his playstyle, which doesn´t make him scum, and Mr. PotatoHead was on the Maju lynch very early, and that´s a big green mark in my papers.


So how did Maju's case convince you exactly? All it states is that potato is being dense and doesnt give reasoning for his votes. Im quite sure you already realised these two points long before maju made his "case", and even than these 2 factors alone arent even a sure scumtell. Did you really think scum would put themselves out like that? Your first post clearly indicates that you dont and its seemingly clear that you were brushing him off as bad. I seriously doubt maju's case gave you any new insight into potato's alignment.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 09:42 GMT
#1880
So bluelightz who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
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