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On May 13 2012 19:25 Forumite wrote:
Syllo, post with one account, you are messing up your own filter.
Yes, I thought Maju was scummy but I had a reason for not wanting him die right now. I´ve been clear about this.
Sinani, BagManager, Quatol, they all need to die. I thought Caller would have killed them off for not voting but for some reason he was mercifull, which means we are stuck with them for now. It´s too bad, the Emperor-lynch would have been put to much better use taking out one of those three.
And what exactly was that reason?
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On May 14 2012 01:54 prplhz wrote:
What's a duke?
Title Roles
Duke: Has 3 Votes.
Count: Has two votes.
Viscount: Has one vote.
Other roles????
Prplhz, mind telling us why, despite saying this
Carolus Magnus looks pretty town so do whatever the fuck he tells you to. I have no idea why he isn't Emperor but that's probably because scum boosted Acrofales or whatever.
You dont actually follow your own advice?
Besides, by voting for sinani, which is imo, a coinflip since his alignment is unknown due to the fact that he does nothing, you are pretty much saying that you thought maju was town simply because you would prefer lynching a null read over him. Yet you dont indicate this in your posts, simply choosing to soft defend him by simply discrediting the case as "flaky" and having no resistance. Yet when you sinani lynch moves fast as a bullet train - supposedly the primary reason for you thinking maju wasnt scum - you simply lol at it...?
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Oh and btw my point with the part with Carlous is that it seems like blatant buddying no?
I need to be away for awhile, be back in an hour or two.
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On May 14 2012 01:53 prplhz wrote:
Hey Forumite, you're really maintaining your composure even though Carolus Magnus is calling for a vigilante hit on you. What gives?
What happened yesterday made me look bad but there´s not much I can do about that right now, except try and explain my actions. Tonight is a dangerous night for me even without Carolus. I´m heir to the throne, and the two players next in line after me are among the scummiest in the game.
On May 14 2012 01:59 Carolus Magnus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 19:25 Forumite wrote:
Syllo, post with one account, you are messing up your own filter.
Yes, I thought Maju was scummy but I had a reason for not wanting him die right now. I´ve been clear about this.
Sinani, BagManager, Quatol, they all need to die. I thought Caller would have killed them off for not voting but for some reason he was mercifull, which means we are stuck with them for now. It´s too bad, the Emperor-lynch would have been put to much better use taking out one of those three. And what exactly was that reason?
My role included a few odd mechanics concerning myself and the throne, mechanics the hosts haven´t fully explained to me yet. I expect Acro to get shot tonight, and with Maju lynched that puts me in line as the next Emperor, but becoming Emperor at the beginning of D2 would most likely rob me of some of my abilities, or worse. That was why I wanted to delay becoming Emperor for a day, by pushing for other targets, including BagManager who is two behind me in line. I know I was working against the lynch of a scum for my own reasons, sorry.
I´ll explain more if I ever get married but I haven´t gotten a reply yet. :3
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EBWOP: Now I know I was working against the lynch of a scum for my own reasons, sorry.
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Hmm that's kind of believable, though doesn't necessarily mean you are town aligned. Your activity is another thing possibly pointing towards you being town.
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On May 13 2012 22:00 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Why is nobody interested in marrying a Duke??
I'm not THAT shady..
I'll do it.
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I feel like we should of discussed who the archbishop and chancellor should be checking....
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Forumite I'll marry you, since none of the unclaimed smurfs seem to want to marry me. Unless you were waiting for someone specific.
I have to caveat that, though - I'm on vacation with my parents, so I could do all the TL pm's you want but not Skype or im (on my phone).
Anyway: like I said above, I'm leaning town on Forumite, although the votes do make him look bad. The fact that he was th first among town to propose that we organize our votes so as to make it hard for scum to secretly stack second place in the emperor election, at the very least makes him look townier to me than the lurkers.
Next, here's something that makes me suspicious of acro - he didn't believe atlas's roleclaim because it was too imba in town's favor. The town has no clue about what is or isn't balanced since we have no idea what roles scum has. For example, in space station I was mafia in a setup that we thought was pretty imba in town's favor, but no one on the town team seemed to think that or at least express it during the game.
Last, this part should be obvious but it seems much more likely that scum would be hiding among the lurkers who voted at the last minute than among lurkers who didn't vote at all and could have been modkilled. Active lurking is scummier than just not playing the game. That means we should be looking at errandor and the bard, as well as prplhz and jitsu, more than at people like laika, itouchyou, and quatol - at least for tomorrow's lynch IMO. We only have two lynches, so we may as well give those other lurkers a chance to get modkilled.
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This is a pretty weak reason for thinking forumite may be town, but due to the way succession works, I think makes sense if mafia are spread out at least a bit. Might just be wishful thinking though. Anyway, probably better if he doesn't get vigged tonight. He should be forced to role claim tomorrow at least in private.
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On May 13 2012 16:27 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 15:34 Acrofales wrote:On May 13 2012 14:18 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
Acrofales what is your opinion on Forumite? I used to think he was town. His unwillingness to give reads, out of fear of getting shot by scum is scummy. His voting behaviour is scummy (specifically the Mr.Potatohead vote, for the reasons given by Zelblade). Overall verdict: somewhat scummy. I want people to ALSO take a close look at who voted bluelightz. Many of those were reluctant about even acknowledging Maju as scum from the very beginning and I still think bluelightz, out of the three lynch candidates looked the least likely to flip red, so: ATLASAdam SinaniMajuGarzettBill Murray I want to add an honorary Hassy on there, because I have the feeling that the only reason he switched off is because both Drazerk and I pressured him in private. I cannot get a read on Adam. I think Sinani is scum. Not only did his reason to not vote Maju sound suspicious, but it can now be said he was soft defending his scumbuddy there. All of that out of a single post and action. Out of all the inactives, Sinani feels scummiest. I am also starting to reconsider lynching Hassy. He was never really onboard with the Maju lynch, he ran for empress unopposed and has not been very forthcoming with his reads. In private he has insisted on bluelightz, and said CC and Quatol would be good lynches too. Now I'm going sailing. Be back this afternoon late sometime. yeah dude.. mafia would NEVER vote for each other... stop being stupid.
Did you even READ my post? Or are you just so redcrazed on bluelightz that anything by anybody who thinks he could be town must be nonsense?
I am not even sure you're sarcastic or not. If you are, then how the hell does that invalidate my post?
If you're not sarcastic, then mind looking where the hell bluelightz voted? Yes. Confirmed scum. Mind telling me why he would do that when he could just have hopped to Sinani?
Also, your insistence on my stupidity is FUCKING STUPID and insulting. Stop it. Ignore my posts if you like, but just shut the fuck up if all you can do is insult me.
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@opz - I agree that it makes sense for the empress to reveal to town who the archbishop will be checking, so they don't end up overlapping with another dt role if there are any. (I mean who knows with the bill Murray claim fiasco.) On the other hand, I don't think the chancellor should, since that role could be tricked if scum has a framer or something.
Pre-edit that assumes the archbishop is immune to framers since his ability reveals it to everyone and it stays revealed. That might not be true though.
@forumite :3
Also ebwop on my above post, should say give them a second chance to be modkilled.
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On May 14 2012 03:08 strongandbig wrote:
@opz - I agree that it makes sense for the empress to reveal to town who the archbishop will be checking, so they don't end up overlapping with another dt role if there are any. (I mean who knows with the bill Murray claim fiasco.) On the other hand, I don't think the chancellor should, since that role could be tricked if scum has a framer or something.
Pre-edit that assumes the archbishop is immune to framers since his ability reveals it to everyone and it stays revealed. That might not be true though.
@forumite :3
Also ebwop on my above post, should say give them a second chance to be modkilled.
The archbishop should NOT claim beforehand, as it is a public check. How does it even matter to say who he's checking beforehand, except to allow mafia to frame that person?
I kinda don't like giving public advice on who to check for the same reason. It gives mafia (more) ideas about who needs to be protected, or who is a good target to frame.
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Also, because the whole marriage thing didn't work the way blubbdavid said it would, the chancellor will work as a regular DT, with the only exception that I know who he is and am paying attention to cases by that person. If he's breadcrumbing I hope I can catch it, if not, I am confident in his abilities anyway.
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Finally, it seems like very poor play from mafia to have someone who is next in line to be the emperor argue against a lynch that looks likely to happen. Could just be poor play, but it makes more sense for forumite to bus than anyone else on his team. I suppose there could be role related reasons for this, which is why he has to claim at some point.
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I assumed that the archbishop would know whether or not he's immune to framers.
However, I forgot that he's not auto mason'ed to the empeess, and would have to reveal himself before the check, so never mind that.
I just thought it might help avoid duplication, such as for example between him and the chancellor.
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s&b, that would require me to be able to have a discussion with the archbishop would it not?
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On May 14 2012 03:06 Carolus Magnus wrote:
This is a pretty weak reason for thinking forumite may be town, but due to the way succession works, I think makes sense if mafia are spread out at least a bit. Might just be wishful thinking though. Anyway, probably better if he doesn't get vigged tonight. He should be forced to role claim tomorrow at least in private.
I plan on making a full roleclaim to my spouse as soon as I find the one for me.
On May 14 2012 02:57 strongandbig wrote:
Forumite I'll marry you, since none of the unclaimed smurfs seem to want to marry me. Unless you were waiting for someone specific.
I have to caveat that, though - I'm on vacation with my parents, so I could do all the TL pm's you want but not Skype or im (on my phone).
Strongandbig, my answer is Yes! Marry me, you manly man! We will be the manliest couple in all of Europa! :3
TL PMs works fine with me.
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Well forumite's partial roleclaim is interesting to say the least. Its possible, but honestly a little hard to believe considering that its pretty easy for scum to fake something like that. Carlous does raise an excellent point regarding how forumite probably wouldnt have done that if he was mafia..... which makes me start to doubt my read a little. Can we expect a full roleclaim tomorrow?
I think the archbishop should actually check hassy - said archbisop probably thinks hassy is town for choosing him for the role (assuming they are both town) - but using it to clear doubts about hassy wouldnt be a bad use I think. Agreed with S&B, chancellor ought to check the active lurkers out. I heard from somewhere that erandorr doesnt play when he rolls scum? Might be a good check.
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In fact, Mattchew, I'm calling you out. You have spent an inordinate amount of time calling my posts dumb, my play bad and me stupid. Why?
If you think I'm scum, make a case against me. Otherwise focus your attention on scumhunting instead of insulting me.
+ Show Spoiler [sample of Mattchew calling me bad and/…] +Discrediting everything I said: On May 10 2012 23:28 Mattchew wrote:
everything acro has posted has been wrong but I would wage that he is just unknowing townie not scum agenda pushing mafia
This means don't vote acro and dont lynch acro Not reading my post properly and using it to discredit me: On May 11 2012 01:14 Mattchew wrote:
So your down to lynch dumb town... You should all be voting for me Calling me bad: On May 11 2012 04:06 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:03 Acrofales wrote:On May 11 2012 03:49 Mattchew wrote:On May 11 2012 03:47 Acrofales wrote:
Also, where did Cephiro go. I thought companion cube was a rather promising prospect for empress, but he disappeared. I don't like to vote for someone who has had hardly any opposition to his campaign just because the other candidate hasn't convinced me yet. I don't like all the people calling you a good candidate without reasoning and often lumping your in with syllo/sandroba... Oh stop being jealous. I think anybody with half a brain takes one look at my filter and sees I'm town. They then think a bit and recall that I am inexperienced, but have played some decent games (or they don't and just vote for me). A vote for me really is a vote for the best emperor. If I didn't believe that, I would've retracted my candidacy a while ago. how so. You have done nothing but come up with awful plans and then retract them. There is no jealousy, I even said for others to vote for Carolus (not realizing before that he/they are a souped up VET). I just dont want YOU in the position because i think you will make bad decisions for town. Heres a question... lets say your lynch was right now, who would you lynch Calling me dumb or scum: On May 11 2012 04:09 Mattchew wrote:
PS. Acro, all the smart players in the game have cast doubt on you being scum or stupid. I guess you do need to only have half a brain to see you as town Calling me bad (in different words): On May 12 2012 05:00 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 04:59 Acrofales wrote:On May 12 2012 04:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize that he is town, but he is a weak player in that he doesn't realize he needed me a lot more than I needed him, and that he outted the cop
He had some bad things to say about you
He called Hassy a blue
and he said he suspected you
funny
here
let me get the pm:
I realize that he is town, but he is a weak player in that he doesn't realize he needed me a lot more than I needed him, and that he outted the cop
He had some bad things to say about you
He called Hassy a blue
and he said he suspected you
funny
here
let me get the pm:
From: P-body [ 44 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Hey Babe
Date: 5/11/12 23:42
So good to not have to use that fucking post restriction.
Anyways:
I think Hassy is blue. This looks like his early play in Aperture Mafia.
Acrofales feels a little scummy.
To: P-body [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Hey Babe
Date: 5/12/12 03:50
i sent him an irc link I think you're town, but WHY would you post this? What purpose does this have, except to either sow confusion, or give mafia information? BM, stop panicking. Step away from the computer. Collect yourself and come back in an hour. You're not helping yourself with this frenzy of posts. You still have not said anything sensible or of any value in a long long time, who would you like to lynch and why Calling me bad again: On May 12 2012 05:33 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 05:31 Acrofales wrote:
Lets put it this way: if Carolus is town, I think it highly unlikely bluelightz is scum (or he will out himself spectacularly sometime soon when he can no longer just sheep Carolus). Currently I think Carolus has a good chance of being town. you wanted to be emperor... stop playing so shitty at it Says my reads are bad, without actually saying why: On May 13 2012 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
hey acro i think your lynch candidates suck and you should be choosing bluelightz or jitsu, if maju gets lynched Calls me stupid, when totally not reading my post: On May 13 2012 16:27 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 15:34 Acrofales wrote:On May 13 2012 14:18 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
Acrofales what is your opinion on Forumite? I used to think he was town. His unwillingness to give reads, out of fear of getting shot by scum is scummy. His voting behaviour is scummy (specifically the Mr.Potatohead vote, for the reasons given by Zelblade). Overall verdict: somewhat scummy. I want people to ALSO take a close look at who voted bluelightz. Many of those were reluctant about even acknowledging Maju as scum from the very beginning and I still think bluelightz, out of the three lynch candidates looked the least likely to flip red, so: ATLASAdam SinaniMajuGarzettBill Murray I want to add an honorary Hassy on there, because I have the feeling that the only reason he switched off is because both Drazerk and I pressured him in private. I cannot get a read on Adam. I think Sinani is scum. Not only did his reason to not vote Maju sound suspicious, but it can now be said he was soft defending his scumbuddy there. All of that out of a single post and action. Out of all the inactives, Sinani feels scummiest. I am also starting to reconsider lynching Hassy. He was never really onboard with the Maju lynch, he ran for empress unopposed and has not been very forthcoming with his reads. In private he has insisted on bluelightz, and said CC and Quatol would be good lynches too. Now I'm going sailing. Be back this afternoon late sometime. yeah dude.. mafia would NEVER vote for each other... stop being stupid.
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