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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 12 2012 23:35 GMT
#1841
On May 13 2012 08:33 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
GG no re fools


Before you leave one question I may ask
Can we have your name in order to complete our task
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18172 Posts
May 12 2012 23:38 GMT
#1842
On May 13 2012 07:36 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 07:33 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Hassy looks pretty awful after that flip, possibly some of the late voters as well

Remember that sinani swing?
We get rid of EVERYBODY trying to get it. From the first voter to the last.

You realize that only works if Sinani is not scum? And that Sinani is looking even worse with Maju flipping scum than anybody who voted for him?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#1843
On May 13 2012 08:35 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 08:33 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
GG no re fools


Before you leave one question I may ask
Can we have your name in order to complete our task


Your task complete it shall be
For ATLAS is none other than me
I had a lot of fun messing with Hassy's brain
But sadly, this appears to be game
I hope you have fun, good luck town!
And now I fade away, without making a sound
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#1844
On May 13 2012 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 08:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 13 2012 08:33 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
GG no re fools


Before you leave one question I may ask
Can we have your name in order to complete our task


Your task complete it shall be
For ATLAS is none other than me
I had a lot of fun messing with Hassy's brain
But sadly, this appears to be game
I hope you have fun, good luck town!
And now I fade away, without making a sound


LOL.

and now Matt still hasn't responded to my case, yay!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 12 2012 23:49 GMT
#1845
On May 13 2012 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 08:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 13 2012 08:33 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
GG no re fools


Before you leave one question I may ask
Can we have your name in order to complete our task


Your task complete it shall be
For ATLAS is none other than me
I had a lot of fun messing with Hassy's brain
But sadly, this appears to be game
I hope you have fun, good luck town!
And now I fade away, without making a sound


just for the record. I knew it as everyone else should have the moment igrok failed :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 12 2012 23:53 GMT
#1846
Also for the record, I accused him of being ATLAS on Steam, then he convinced me otherwise

What a dick
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
P-body
Profile Joined March 2012
United States71 Posts
May 13 2012 00:29 GMT
#1847
4c6f6f6b73206c696b652049207761732072696768742061626f757420746865204d616a75207377697463682e2020416e642049206b6e65772041544c41532066656c742077656972642e202057687920776f756c6420796f7520636c61696d20534b20616e64206e6f7420617373617373696e3f0d0a0d0a50532049276d2061707065616c6c696e6720746f2043616c6c657220666f722061206469766f726365206f6e207468652067726f756e6473207468617420424d20686173206e6f74207965742070726f647563656420616e206865697220666f72206d652e
Smurf for Aperture Mafia
P-body
Profile Joined March 2012
United States71 Posts
May 13 2012 00:30 GMT
#1848
416c736f2c207468652073696e616e69206c697374206665656c73206c696b65206120676f6f64207468696e6720746f206c6f6f6b20696e746f2e
Smurf for Aperture Mafia
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 13 2012 00:38 GMT
#1849
I'm on my phone and can't translate that retardation. Someone summarize or something.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 13 2012 00:39 GMT
#1850
Jitsu looked pretty awful before the flip and looks worse now
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 13 2012 00:46 GMT
#1851
On May 13 2012 09:39 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Jitsu looked pretty awful before the flip and looks worse now

What do you think of bluelightZ
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
QuickSilver7
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation69 Posts
May 13 2012 01:11 GMT
#1852
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That was easy
QuickSilver7
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation69 Posts
May 13 2012 01:14 GMT
#1853
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P-body
Profile Joined March 2012
United States71 Posts
May 13 2012 01:56 GMT
#1854
7661646572736576656e206861736e2774207361696420612064616d6e207468696e672e20204c75726b6572766967697320706c656173653f
Smurf for Aperture Mafia
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 02:15 GMT
#1855
Thats nice so we have like a shit ton of "probably town" now. Lets just lynch into whoever tried to push sinani wagon hard now than.

Responding to this:

+ Show Spoiler +
As of right now, I am 100% alright with a zelblade lynch. Let's look it over.

His filter has a few overall strokes I would like to touch on. I am reading over his filter right now. There are a few popping posts that jump out at me and call to light my feeling of his alignment, but it's moreso the overall broad strokes of his play. A few examples:


On May 10 2012 21:02 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:48 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:
If i was to pick right now, it would probably be Carolus or Jitsu


Why Jitsu? Care to tell us?


From the way it's worded, I think the heretic ability is a one-time use. Jitsu's one of those players who doesn't fuck around and will use it sensibly. On top of this, I really think it's a pro-town ability no matter who get's it. The only way it would not be is if the Archbishop doesn't use it, at which point we kill him and the Emperor re-assigns it.

Same reason for syllo/sand, but they have the benefit of two brains so they can pick a better target. Hopefully


No it isnt a pro-town ability no matter who gets it. Its a free rolecheck for scum, and if it works for frames (No idea about this just speculation).... Yes its still useful to an extent, but why give it to scum when no scum archbishop will ever deliever a [unless frames work/its a bus] scum check?

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town.


This post stood out to me because he mentions me in it. It's basically denouncing me because I have the reputation of being a half decent-to-good town player. This jumped out at me for two specific reasons.

The first reason; as a town player, why would you want to denounce anyone that is supposedly a good town player? In what way does that benefit town? It pulls potential weight away from his argument, which is a benefit only to the mafia. A true town player would in now way feel the need to denounce a good town player that early in the game because he is oblivious to his alignment.

For example; I think Syllo is a good town player. If Syllo is making sense, it's a benefit to listen to Syllo. Thus, there would be no reason to try to discredit him. Period.

The second reason this post stuck out at me has to do with the overall tone of the post. I read it two or three times, and reading it out loud, it looks as if it's coming from the perspective of someone who KNOWS i'm a town player.

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town


The bolded. Why would you push home a statement that is already strong enough by casting doubt on the possibility of me being a scum player? It makes no sense to push your thoughts into other players by highlighting an if. The first half of the sentence would have been sufficient enough to draw your point, but you continue with that "doubt casting" thang you do.

The second thing I would like to point out, is the general feel of Zelblade's filter. Take five minutes just to skim it - don't read it too indepth, just skim it. Do that now, and then come back and read the rest of what I have to say.
.
.
.
.
.
There's a general lack of substance in anything he says. The majority of posts he makes early is pretty much filler posting. He doesn't even contribute anything to the discussion until the above post, which marks the first point in him discrediting a townie with little to no justification. If Hassy has little reason to appoint me as Archbishop, what reason would there be for Zelblade to shoot me down, especially that early?

Zelblade lacks a committal answer in everything - even his vote on Maju seemed...blah. Then I asked him who he voted for...his first vote was for the Syllo/Sandro Hydra (a decent vote, however, it's basically voting for someone on the basis that their town play is strong...something Zelblade admitted he didn't want ME voted in for) and...CC.

Let's jump to the end of your filter, Zelblade.


On May 12 2012 22:27 zelblade wrote:
Maju still hasnt done anything worthwhile, and is still lurking.

Agreed with acrofales on forumite, he needs to actually talk about the lynch. I dont care how he thinks hiding his reads will help - If it goes to an extent where he doesnt even hint (no your suspicions and where you stand isnt as clear as you have been parroting) its not helping if hes town. I dont buy that a townie wont bother to actually adress the most important thing (the lynch) yet have the time to pick out potatoheads + p-body's posts as stupid and illogical. Note that he doesnt even paint them as scum and just asks them to step up.

If Acro is putting the lynch between CC and Atlas ill much prefer Atlas to be lynched.


Really? So you voted for CC to be elected empress. Now, when the rubber meets the road, you are trying to delay his lynch. Is that because you think he's town or because he's your scumbuddy?

I'd be fine with a zelblade lynch.

Infact

##Vote: Zelblade
[/QUOTE]

No it isnt a pro-town ability no matter who gets it. Its a free rolecheck for scum, and if it works for frames (No idea about this just speculation).... Yes its still useful to an extent, but why give it to scum when no scum archbishop will ever deliever a [unless frames work/its a bus] scum check?

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town.


No this post isnt basically denouncing you ffs. In case you couldnt see, hassy simply decided to elect his archbishop on who is good which is fucking horrible since giving it to a scum no matter how "good" is dumb and you know it. I was simply trying to convice him out of it cause you felt scummy at that point. Simple.

And no I do not know that you are town. Stop fabricating crap.

I dont feel the need to answer everything with a "commital" answer. I see a good case on a player I feel is scum. I completely agree. Why the fuck would I bother making a case and rehasing the same points? Obviously im not going to bother when theres a prefectly good case out there for you to read yourself. And before you accuse me of "sheeping" I just sheeped a scum lynch so :D

And please, the reason for voting Carlous was simple - I read him as town. It wasnt the strongest read for sure, but I still felt better about him than any other candidate at that point. I didnt vote for him because his town play was strong, it was because he felt townie and willing to put in effort. Once again fabricating bullshit I see.

I have a reason for thinking CC might be town. Not going to elaborate on that.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 02:16 GMT
#1856
Im going to eat breakfast will be away for a while.

~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 13 2012 02:29 GMT
#1857
On May 13 2012 08:24 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 07:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On May 13 2012 07:34 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
Interesting.

Why you weren't face pwnt by emperor is beyoooooooond me.


Why would I have been "face pwnt" by the emperor?

your terribly annoying fake posting restriction?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 03:30 GMT
#1858
Taking a look at the sinani train yesterday.

First off it starts with Acrofales thinking that Maju "might" be town.
Drazerk sheeps.
Than Forumite switches from bluelightz to sinani, stating that he doesnt support a Maju lynch.
Prplhz votes sinani too, saying he is unsure about Maju.
Our dear empress Hassy switches off bluelightz too.
Opz decides to get on the wagon.
Followed by Jitsu after realising that his fail case isnt doing anything.

Thats a total of 7 voters who tried to push the lynch off Maju. This also points to sinani being town not mafia, unless there are multipe scum teams of course, which means we (sadly) should leave him alone even though he probably isnt going to do anything.

I do think that scum tried to save Maju through this lynch. I have a pretty strong town read on Acro and I am still fairly confident on it, and even if we are sure hes scum we leave him alive till all the scummy scum below him (in the playerlist) dies. prplhz I read as town too and hes like the most indecisive guy when it comes to lynches so I will give him a pass.

Which leaves us with 5.

Not surprisingly, all of them are actually pretty scummy.



I am not going to make 5 cases at once, so I will focus on my strongest read first - Forumite. I have been suspicious of him all game long, for quite a few things. One of the main things is simply this: look at his D1 voting history. He first tries to get a wagon started on a lurker (bagmanager), than changes his vote onto potatohead. Before this 2nd vote, he states that potatohead's logic is flawed, and he needs to step up.
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 12 2012 02:04 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:45 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:41 Bluelightz wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:34 Bluelightz wrote:
If you might be asking 'who is your suspicion BL?' well, I'm answering now.

First, I really want to kill each and every last smurf who has not revealed themselves yet, they are muddying our discussion (P-Body i am looking at you), and they are being useless and only trolling.

Second, Mattchew still seems suspicious to me as he is only randomly throwing out 'omg bluelightz is not playing to his latest town meta' or 'dont vote acro vote me' without explanation of really, ANYTHING.




Answer's to Acrofales's question:

Mr. Potatohead: This guy should die asap as he is like my previous points muddying the town atmosphere and has not revealed himself.

Hassybaby: Well, from my observation he spent almost 1 and a half of his filter trolling about cat faces, then dodged my reasons for why it is horrible to have him as empress, also please point out Hassy's throwing around of target's, I don't see it.

It's a tarp!

##Vote Bluelightz


Can this count as sheeping without valid reasoning or some bullshit?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at so few?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum. But you know I'm not scum.


I will wifom your wifom if you wifom your wifom a bit for me, capiche?

I am glad you have decided to lead the troops, Duke von Wolfenstein. However, I dislike your entire long post, AND this short post, because it manages to say nothing with a lot of words... and later nothing with few words!

To assuage my suspicions, please tell me who you are, and who your votes went to for Emperor and Empress.

If I have said nothing then you guys have also said nothing. Lol.

From what I can tell, this is exactly what you should be saying if you are a scum emperor. You should discredit my logic, because my logic paints you scum if you accuse me. Why?

(1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum.
(2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it.
(3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at [me]?
(4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum.

Go on, kill me. I dare you. Then people will look back and we'll see if I was really saying nothing.
Potatohead, your logic is flawed. You acted scummy and got called out for it, that doesn´t mean shit. You could just as well have been called out by a townie who wanted you to shape up. Stop actively trying to act scum or you will convince us to lynch you.

On May 12 2012 02:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:37 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:35 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Note the timeline,

On May 10 2012 22:40 Forumite wrote:
I voted thus:
Acrofales for Emperor
Hassybaby for Empress


On May 11 2012 02:33 Forumite wrote:
##Vote Emperor: Acrofales
##Vote Empress: Hassybaby


On May 11 2012 07:44 Caller wrote:
Day 1

[image loading]

The pope arrives...

It is a grand ceremony, with nobles of every rank strutting about like a bunch of cardinals before the slaughter. I mean chickens.

Suddenly, he arrives, Acrofales, the Kaiser elected by the Lords of the Holy Roman Empire. His Empress, the Kaiserin Hassybaby, walking slowly by his side.

...

Arf?

He accurately called both emperor and empress. Twice for good measure.

Because of this it is extra likely that he is scum and that these are the two people scum were aiming for. Would be pretty stupid to leave a trail like this though.
I like it how you refute your own argument against me in the last reply.

If you think there´s something weird about the election then give me the full list of votes and show me a discrepancy. If you don´t have anything suggesting Carolus should have won, then this only looks like you are angry that town voted like I did and not how you wanted them to, and try to take it out on me.

On May 12 2012 03:36 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Why would you be confused? Do you think Hassy is not town?

Haven't a bunch of people been saying you need to stop asking ppl to talk and start talking yourself.

Have you even directly denied being scum, and directly claimed being town yet? Link plz.

He doesn´t have to deny he´s scum, because everyone would answer the same to that question. Demanding it of him is pointless. Shape up!

Reading this, does anyone feel that Forumite is calling Potatohead scum? It feels to me at least that he feels Potatohead is a dumb townie, not actually scum, thus asking him to shape up and stuff - "stop actively trying to act scum". He than realises that he needs an easy lynch, so he tries to start another wagon later. Oh and he finally switches to sinani upon seeing that no one is going on his lonely wagon.

And not to mention that hes the first to use the term "anti-town", which according to the holy bible of Palmar is a scumclaim so there we go.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 03:34 GMT
#1859
Also apparently Drazerk supposedly HAS to follow what acro votes. wat.

On May 13 2012 08:04 Bill Murray wrote:
also carolus claimed KNIGHT
the person who flipped was a frankfurter KNIGHT
suspiciiiiooouusss


So you think Carolus is scum after he just led a scum lynch? No? Than why the hell are you mentioning this? If your answer is yes I dont know what to say.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 13 2012 03:35 GMT
#1860
EH WAIT i screwed up the voting thing.

I misread the voting thing here.

##unvote sinani206
##Vote majuGarzett


I read it as the other way around lol. My bad we can strike Opz off that list.
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