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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 08 2012 21:51 GMT
#1061
On May 09 2012 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:36 Nova_Terra wrote:
And im starting to like the layabout case, especially when you add the recent results of day/night posts


What about the recent results supports the layabout case? please elaborate.


N_T I'm still waiting for a response on this.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 08 2012 21:56 GMT
#1062
On May 09 2012 06:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:46 Nova_Terra wrote:
how is my vote on kenpachi an omgus
thats a filter check which saw nothing of use. and connection cases are terrible
and please, i at least think my scum play is not so dumb that i would get myself bussed by an ally then start a vote against said ally with no xontent with the purpose of getting him lynched


KP calls you scum:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 06:50 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE?

NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME
NO
NO
NO
WTF? NO

i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following.
by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1
i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened

On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.


On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.

such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart.

BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience.

Oh wonderful, a connection case. Nothing quite like totally breaking the window of nice town atmosphere.
This doesnt make any sense. he thinks im not mafia but then suddenly does because people dont immediately vote me and instead make a different target. And suddenly those people are mafia too. wtf you said you thought i was townie until these people thought i was townie.



You respond to it kinda noncomittally, mostly with a "WTF".
Then:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:52 Nova_Terra wrote:
Can we plz kill kenpachi soon

Then:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
Next, Kenpachi
Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say
Vote: Kenpachi



As you can see, this is a low-effort counter-bus. N_T doesn't post a case, making it an OMGUS to KP's bus.

N_T answer my layabout question please.

If i was mafia and saw that kind of case against me, i would laugh because its ridiculous
im getting to that
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 08 2012 22:00 GMT
#1063
On May 09 2012 06:56 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 09 2012 06:46 Nova_Terra wrote:
how is my vote on kenpachi an omgus
thats a filter check which saw nothing of use. and connection cases are terrible
and please, i at least think my scum play is not so dumb that i would get myself bussed by an ally then start a vote against said ally with no xontent with the purpose of getting him lynched


KP calls you scum:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 06:50 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote:
ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE?

NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME
NO
NO
NO
WTF? NO

i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following.
by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1
i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened

On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.


On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.

such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart.

BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience.

Oh wonderful, a connection case. Nothing quite like totally breaking the window of nice town atmosphere.
This doesnt make any sense. he thinks im not mafia but then suddenly does because people dont immediately vote me and instead make a different target. And suddenly those people are mafia too. wtf you said you thought i was townie until these people thought i was townie.



You respond to it kinda noncomittally, mostly with a "WTF".
Then:
On May 05 2012 06:52 Nova_Terra wrote:
Can we plz kill kenpachi soon

Then:
On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
Next, Kenpachi
Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say
Vote: Kenpachi



As you can see, this is a low-effort counter-bus. N_T doesn't post a case, making it an OMGUS to KP's bus.

N_T answer my layabout question please.

If i was mafia and saw that kind of case against me, i would laugh because its ridiculous
im getting to that


You know, if that's your only response.. then you are in fact laughing at it because its ridiculous, as you said you would do if you were mafia. Don't think you can convince me you're just a bad town player by using terrible logic! I know you're smarter than this!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 08 2012 22:00 GMT
#1064
BH,
I have made cases before against both marvellosity and layabout. For marvellosity, he hasn't been making further actions that link him to scum except his mention of Kepachi (dismiss-able) and maybe his hard defense for layabout (who is scum IMO). That said, layabout is the better lynch option because of his support of katina, kenpachi(kinda), and just his general lynch the easy guy attitude. Wish he would actually defend himself instead of telling me to go read the thread:<
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 08 2012 22:02 GMT
#1065
I must admit I am not a Layabout fan either. I really think N_T is scum, though-- every time we pressure him he just asks for more time then bails. He's doing the same thing right now to avoid getting lynched again and I will not let him get away with it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 08 2012 22:03 GMT
#1066
1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched
2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched
3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery
this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 08 2012 22:05 GMT
#1067
On May 09 2012 07:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched
2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched
3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery
this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy


Ah, that's interesting, May 9th Nova_Terra! However, I have another player here who disagrees with you.

His name is May 7th Nova_Terra! You should argue with him:

On May 07 2012 05:29 Nova_Terra wrote:
I dont think that layabout is scum, as 1. i really doubt that scum would push for a town lynch so hard and defend a scum mate who wasnt even active, which scum would know

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 08 2012 22:08 GMT
#1068
however, upon reading through kenpachis "case" if it can even be called that i am interested in the fact that layabout is there. Possible bus, maybe you're actually right about a bus bh. will have to think about that in time for my analysis

I should have analysis up tomorrow, please lynch me if i fail to do this and you still think im scum. I've had a rediculously dumb busy week so far, only had time to post with iphone and ipad.

me as a townie when seeing a connection case that bad makes me go WTF and get offended that something so blatantly bad against me can be a contribution
me as scum when seeing a connection case makes me giggle and repeatedly say gg to myself because it is so blatantly bad
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 08 2012 22:10 GMT
#1069
On May 09 2012 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 07:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched
2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched
3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery
this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy


Ah, that's interesting, May 9th Nova_Terra! However, I have another player here who disagrees with you.

His name is May 7th Nova_Terra! You should argue with him:

Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 05:29 Nova_Terra wrote:
I dont think that layabout is scum, as 1. i really doubt that scum would push for a town lynch so hard and defend a scum mate who wasnt even active, which scum would know


When this behavior is continued on and on, it obviously makes someone more scummy
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#1070
On May 09 2012 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 07:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched
2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched
3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery
this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy


Ah, that's interesting, May 9th Nova_Terra! However, I have another player here who disagrees with you.

His name is May 7th Nova_Terra! You should argue with him:

Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 05:29 Nova_Terra wrote:
I dont think that layabout is scum, as 1. i really doubt that scum would push for a town lynch so hard and defend a scum mate who wasnt even active, which scum would know



I can see why you want to lynch N_T, but like N_T said, layabout has been on the proven wrong side one time too many for me.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 22:35:39
May 08 2012 22:17 GMT
#1071
.........................
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 10:55:59
May 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#1072
Edit this post out so it is empty please. We will discuss modkills POST GAME
Thanks
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#1073
marvel I want you to tell me why you don't think layabout isn't scum, or why you think NT is scummier than laya.

still reading into NT.
t(ツ)t
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#1074
I think kurumi should be nominated for best town performance this game, catching all those lurker mafia
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 08 2012 22:59 GMT
#1075
On May 09 2012 07:36 PaqMan wrote:
marvel I want you to tell me why you don't think layabout isn't scum, or why you think NT is scummier than laya.

still reading into NT.


Yep, got notepad on the go atm, post to follow
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 08 2012 23:02 GMT
#1076
The argument that NT "bussed" Kenpachi is so invalid. He made it known that he wanted KP dead more than 4 days ago. If anyone should look suspicious for bussing it should be me. Which I'm really really surprised no one has even mentioned that.

NT has so many ugly little one-liners and zero contributions. I read through his entire filter (it was an eyesore).

Ask yourselves, "If NT was scum, what does he achieve for playing the way that he currently is?"
He doesn't push forth any sort of scum agenda and his actions don't make much sense from a scum point-of-view. How is NT helping scum by playing the way he that he is?
He isn't.

The cases and pushes against NT look awfully similar to the blubb train and I want to avoid that. I think NT is just an idiot town (no offense dude, not trying to be rude). I don't want to lynch NT while layabout is alive.

I think my case against layabout + the reasons to believe layabout is scum are far far far greater than NT's.
THE ONLY RESPONSE layabout made was this: + Show Spoiler +
On May 09 2012 01:34 layabout wrote:
I am just gonna hope i get shot so i don't have to explain myself.
Again.

I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.
I have lost track of how many times i have had to repeat myself.



Because all of my points are valid and true. I am totally confident that layabout is scum.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 08 2012 23:05 GMT
#1077
ebwop:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&currentpage=51#1002

If you haven't read it plz do
t(ツ)t
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 08 2012 23:14 GMT
#1078
I have a very busy day tomorrow, and i will try to do what i can.

I will try to share my important reads and i will respond to the case that Paqman has made. (you should be able to spot the errors if you try to look at it objectively.)

You have no idea how pissed off i am that i choose BM as the policy lynch or that i complained about players not putting in effort, or that i said we shouldn't lynch katina or that the case i pushed Johnnywub and blubb given what has happened.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 08 2012 23:17 GMT
#1079
On May 09 2012 08:14 layabout wrote:
I have a very busy day tomorrow, and i will try to do what i can.

I will try to share my important reads and i will respond to the case that Paqman has made. (you should be able to spot the errors if you try to look at it objectively.)

You have no idea how pissed off i am that i choose BM as the policy lynch or that i complained about players not putting in effort, or that i said we shouldn't lynch katina or that the case i pushed Johnnywub and blubb given what has happened.


You never said we shouldn't lynch katina, you never made a read on him. You never pushed a case on jdub, you called him out for lurking and that was it.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#1080
I don't think you read my case..
The only thing that you might have repeated was about Palmar. My case pointed out the fact that all you've done is push other people's scum reads, that you haven't been scumhunting, that most of your filter is only made up of you defending yourself, and that you put way more effort into creating those defenses instead of actively hunting scum.
t(ツ)t
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