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On May 09 2012 10:18 Mementoss wrote:
Also playing with and looking into Nova_Terra saying "I think he is just a bad townie" does not suffice to me. As I said before his reads may not always be right as town but he actively tries to promote discussion and makes a good effort to make cases. There is only one situation I can think of that would make Nova not scum but I'm not going to go into it because its not solid and more of a gut feeling.
I want to clarify you post here: you are defending Nova_Terra, you say he IS a townie, and he is NOT bad, as he is trying to promote discussion/good effort into cases?
This can't be right. Are you referring to another game?
Mementoss you made cases against both grush and N_T, however I don't think you have yet done a comparison on the two. So please expand on why N_T > grush(If that is your stance).
Anyhow, I would be interested to hear the the situation later on in the game.
I am sad that I am on the same posting level as sinensis. I hope I had contributed a little bit more than that.
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ebwop: Oh yeah it's another game, I think.
N_T > grush as lynch candidate.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 09 2012 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 07:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched
2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched
3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery
this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy Ah, that's interesting, May 9th Nova_Terra! However, I have another player here who disagrees with you. His name is May 7th Nova_Terra! You should argue with him: Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 05:29 Nova_Terra wrote:
I dont think that layabout is scum, as 1. i really doubt that scum would push for a town lynch so hard and defend a scum mate who wasnt even active, which scum would know
On May 07 2012 02:22 PaqMan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I don't think laya is scum, and I think scum are trying to subtly push for his lynch.
On May 08 2012 11:56 PaqMan wrote:
I'm confident that layabout is scum and I want him lynched tomorrow.
1 day less!
Just saying, I don't think N_T is scum. I think a better lynch candidate will be...
marvellosity!
He's pretty much attacked every "easy" targets including BM, papa, me, N_T, (a little bit) blubb, and johnny. Protected Kenpachi and Katina, and he gets very defensive even at a one line poke at the side. Including all these quotes would make my post unnecessarily big, but I'm pretty confident on marv being scum.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
What I mean to say about N_T being scum is, he's been too easy to push on both days, and if I'm right about marv, he jumped onto N_T vote fairly early and didn't switch to blubb. He must have known that they are both town!
I guess that really falls apart if marv flips blue though!
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
Also, I'm reading this thread often, I just don't post if I don't have anything to add to the discussion. I'm not really good at picking out many scum, but I think I'm pretty good at weighing other people's cases and using them to deduce who the scum is, so I just read all the cases and vote for the person I think is the most scummy. Neither N_T or blubb gave me that feeling last day, so I voted for neither. Again, I don't feel N_T is scum so I'm holding my vote for now. If we don't get a better candidate I'm gonna go with my gut feeling and vote marv.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
Just to clarify, I didn't quote paqman because I think those two posts make him look scummy, just wanted to point out that N_T wasn't the only person who switched their stance on layabout.
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I'm voting for layabout today... not likely to change my mind. My reason is that he's been helping scum all game long.
I want to point out DoYouHas's last post before he got hit:
On May 09 2012 03:32 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm finding myself in a similar boat to SA. With blubb gone I see so many people with good potential for being scum. Johnny, layabout, nova, KP. I haven't even looked hard into Eiii or I10f. And ghost fits in there somewhere as well.
I feel pretty comfortable picking our next lynch from the group of Johnny, layabout, nova, and KP. I'm going to need to do some serious reviewing before I know which I want to lynch over the others though. I know that a number of you have already picked your pony for d3 (probably because I usurped you with the blubb train) but I would really appreciate it if we could present complete cases for d3 to work from. Even if that means you are repeating points from earlier in the game. The recent posts on Johnny and layabout are a nice step in this direction.
I think the bolded statements are why mafia killed him. He was onto what may be the rest of their team.
Something else I noticed from reading filters:
On May 06 2012 05:37 slOosh wrote:He spends some time with blubbdavid incident, concludes that what he did (asking powerrole) is scummy but then moves onto Grush, fosing him for "obvious reasons". Clearly pushing along BM wagon, with reasons like Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:47 johnnywup wrote:
I'm gonna vote for BM because I don't want him to survive to lategame. He's disruptive to scumhunting. not because he is scum. Could be residual stress from LIII so not totally conclusive. Has responded unreasonably aggressively to pressure. Conclusion: Probably scum.
This is the last thing sloosh said before he was killed... this post points toward jwup too. I am going to go through jwup's filter and see if I can find anything of interest.
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Nevermind on the jwup thing I thought I would be able to find something that wasn't there. For now I will just focus on layabout and see if I can find anything else that would be helpful in convicting him.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
Also I forgot to mention, before night 2 actions I was originally going to say marv + paqman are scum team together but with Kenpachi flipping scum I'm just not sure about paqman anymore. They've agreed with each other most of the way so I thought they looked suspicious together. Now I'm just down to marv. What does everyone else think about this possibility?
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If anyone have the obs qt link please pm me.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 09 2012 12:31 l10f wrote:
marvellosity!
He's pretty much attacked every "easy" targets including BM, papa, me, N_T, (a little bit) blubb, and johnny. Protected Kenpachi and Katina, and he gets very defensive even at a one line poke at the side. Including all these quotes would make my post unnecessarily big, but I'm pretty confident on marv being scum.
Just not letting this one slide. I attacked BM for saying 'he was busy' and 'he'd put more time in later' - an excuse he used as scum in LIII. Papa? I called a couple of his garbage posts garbage. You I called out for having made 2 posts. Supposed to leave lurkers alone? Nova_Terra - bothered to read my case on him? jdub - "town MVP" from LIII, and someone I took the time to actually point out the contradictions - easy target? When did I protect Kenpachi? Saying Katina's posting style is odd is now protecting her...kk. Is this it?
To the bold: oh I know - including all these quotes would show you're talking out of your arse. If you're going to make a case, please make it, don't just make up a little unsubstantiated story.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 09 2012 12:34 l10f wrote:
Also, I'm reading this thread often, I just don't post if I don't have anything to add to the discussion. I'm not really good at picking out many scum, but I think I'm pretty good at weighing other people's cases and using them to deduce who the scum is, so I just read all the cases and vote for the person I think is the most scummy. Neither N_T or blubb gave me that feeling last day, so I voted for neither. Again, I don't feel N_T is scum so I'm holding my vote for now. If we don't get a better candidate I'm gonna go with my gut feeling and vote marv.
Also here you completely forgo mentioning layabout. Apparently you have nothing to say on one of the main lynch candidates.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
N_T has provided us with a malformed puke-stocking of a filter and I'm alarmed that anyone isn't voting him.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On May 09 2012 06:32 Nova_Terra wrote:
I'll post some analysis after classes tomorrow
If nothing else, at least make an effort to conform to this promise. At present the sum of your contributions to the thread would sour ripened grapes, bruise peaches and curdle milk.
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I will, got 1 more class, already dropped my brand new iphone which destroyed the screen, kinda put a damper on my plans for some sort of post earlier
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
Shit, that sucks with the iPhone :<
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Assuming he is indeed telling the truth, rather than frantically flailing around for some additional way to solve, that does indeed suck. It sucks a great deal ;_; I got a case for my phone but I'm still worried about dropping it. In any case, NT, this silence is still totes preggers with meaning-- where's your analysis at?
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It's my terrible excuse for having an old baddie phone instead of a shiny new phone.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 09 2012 20:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 12:34 l10f wrote:
Also, I'm reading this thread often, I just don't post if I don't have anything to add to the discussion. I'm not really good at picking out many scum, but I think I'm pretty good at weighing other people's cases and using them to deduce who the scum is, so I just read all the cases and vote for the person I think is the most scummy. Neither N_T or blubb gave me that feeling last day, so I voted for neither. Again, I don't feel N_T is scum so I'm holding my vote for now. If we don't get a better candidate I'm gonna go with my gut feeling and vote marv. Also here you completely forgo mentioning layabout. Apparently you have nothing to say on one of the main lynch candidates.
Good catch, I didn't mention layabout because I already said I had doubts about his being mafia on day 2. I guess I should have clarified that my view on him didn't change. Now do you have anything else to day except nitpicking at my post?
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