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Vayesh tries so hard to please in this crazy home we call a space station
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On April 19 2012 13:37 VayeshMoru wrote:
Vayesh believes strongandbig just claimed to be an alien. Thoughts?
Agreed.
strongandbig wrote:
Zentor is still my strongest scum read. Zentor wants to lynch Kurumi. Let's lynch Kurumi."
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On April 18 2012 00:10 chaoser wrote:If no one else has then I'd like to push for a sinani lynch. With Ace flipping townie, it seems weird to me that all sinani has done this game is try to buddy Ace: Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 13:02 sinani206 wrote:On April 13 2012 12:33 Ace wrote:
I see the peasants are at play while the King is off fighting wars Still don't understand why people want to kill you. Also I think too many people are throwing their mayor votes around. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 13:10 sinani206 wrote:On April 13 2012 13:07 chaoser wrote:On April 13 2012 12:33 Ace wrote:
I see the peasants are at play while the King is off fighting wars If by off fighting wars you meant watching the heats/bulls game and going: On April 13 2012 11:41 Ace wrote:
WADE On April 13 2012 11:49 Ace wrote:
This game is fucking INSANE On April 13 2012 11:57 Ace wrote:
Floater going sideways away from the basket? o.0
This game is off the chain! Then yeah, I guess that's what happened There's nothing wrong with not posting for ~20 minutes because of watching a sporting event. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 16:57 sinani206 wrote:
Current thoughts on the three major mayor candidates:
sandroba: Kinda wants to be mayor for the power. He is pretty much saying that if he's elected, he will run a dictatorship. I don't really like this.
Ace: As usual, his concise posts make a shit ton of sense. I'd also vote for him to prevent him from being stupidly killed for the heck of it.
GMarshal: Does look like the best candidate. Playing his true town meta and also helping out newer players. With bonus
"^_^" (lol). My vote's going on him for now. If no one has been in contact with him in PMs, then his making this statement is pretty hypocritical: Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 03:21 sinani206 wrote:
It's a PM game; you need to communicate in PMs. It's like playing an entirely different game. And you still want to play regular mafia. That doesn't make any sense to me.
case. Question sinani, how active have you been in PMland?
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so sinani lynch today, strongandbig lynch tomorrow, our DTs should be able to cover the rest. After today the mafia KP should be dropping to 1.
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On April 19 2012 14:01 chaoser wrote:
so sinani lynch today, strongandbig lynch tomorrow, our DTs should be able to cover the rest. After today the mafia KP should be dropping to 1.
I'm fine with this. I feel like the attack on Kurumi was a bit of a chainsaw defense. He was one of my biggest town reads from the beginning, really trying to get discussion going in the thread. For now my vote is on sinani.
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On April 19 2012 14:10 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 14:01 chaoser wrote:
so sinani lynch today, strongandbig lynch tomorrow, our DTs should be able to cover the rest. After today the mafia KP should be dropping to 1. I'm fine with this. I feel like the attack on Kurumi was a bit of a chainsaw defense. He was one of my biggest town reads from the beginning, really trying to get discussion going in the thread. For now my vote is on sinani.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say. It was a chainsaw defense by Mr. Zentor.
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ebwop obviously I'm not fine with the lynching me part.
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On April 19 2012 14:17 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 14:10 Snarfs wrote:On April 19 2012 14:01 chaoser wrote:
so sinani lynch today, strongandbig lynch tomorrow, our DTs should be able to cover the rest. After today the mafia KP should be dropping to 1. I'm fine with this. I feel like the attack on Kurumi was a bit of a chainsaw defense. He was one of my biggest town reads from the beginning, really trying to get discussion going in the thread. For now my vote is on sinani. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. It was a chainsaw defense by Mr. Zentor.
I don't get how you can say this and then vote for Kurumi.
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On April 19 2012 14:20 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 14:17 strongandbig wrote:On April 19 2012 14:10 Snarfs wrote:On April 19 2012 14:01 chaoser wrote:
so sinani lynch today, strongandbig lynch tomorrow, our DTs should be able to cover the rest. After today the mafia KP should be dropping to 1. I'm fine with this. I feel like the attack on Kurumi was a bit of a chainsaw defense. He was one of my biggest town reads from the beginning, really trying to get discussion going in the thread. For now my vote is on sinani. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. It was a chainsaw defense by Mr. Zentor. I don't get how you can say this and then vote for Kurumi.
Well, no one seems to be listening to me about Mr. Zentor.
If he is town then we lynch kurumi and get a scum.
If he's not town we can find out by lynching kurumi and then lynching zentor.
Either way we get a scum.
Plus, look at his case - it's really good, kurumi has been defending a lot of scum and attacking a lot of towns people.
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Vayesh thinks everyone should point and laugh at the alien strongandbig. Vayesh also thinks zentor and kurumi could be both town.
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On April 19 2012 14:27 VayeshMoru wrote:
.... Vayesh also thinks zentor and kurumi could be both town.
I agree it's possible, but I'd still like to know why MrZentor didn't follow up his case with a vote. Seems like he was a little hesitant to back up what I would agree is a good case with his actions, which is a scum move - trying not to stick his neck out too far. If he's town he'll have a good reason though.
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On April 19 2012 11:35 MrZentor wrote:Kurumi spreads doubt about if Sand is town. Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:On April 13 2012 22:52 risk.nuke wrote:On April 13 2012 22:48 Kurumi wrote:On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote:On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote:On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock. Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions? wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit. Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba? I'm asking you why you think the way you do? You do have reasons right. So do the pro-town thing and share them. I'm interested. I find it amusing that I asked Coag and You're the person to respond. 1st People want to lynch Ace for no reason. (some say it's a joke-gone-real) 2nd He actually says something related and helpful to the game. 3rd Sandroba has gone the same way like he did in his scum games. Say skype publicly and try to mess in the pm land. He wanted me to claim to him because he somehow knows a mechanics present in the game giving him possibility to break it.
Bullshit. His excuse for voting Jackal as captain is that he wants somebody against Sand. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote:
As for now Jackal's my vote. I'll vote for whoever is against sandroba.
Talismania, You might need a shovel. He defends l10f. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 22:27 Kurumi wrote:Remember this post? On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote:On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote:On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote:Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____* I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum? The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default. Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this? + Show Spoiler [*] +I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here? Which town read? Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little. That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f. There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy? My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones) You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it. You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY? You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy! You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares. I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic" Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions! He doesn't want responsibility for the Zentor bandwagon, because he knows it will end in a mislynched townie. Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 07:32 Kurumi wrote:On April 17 2012 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ouch that's gotta sting Zentor - Kurumi nice catch.
Who are your partners Zentor? Not mine. Layabout's. He defends Jackal hard. Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:
Its five not two. Anyway, the item name inconsistency might be solved by host trying to save the setup from being broken. Also guys. Lets go with the words of another confirmed town Ace. We should not lynch active players. I agree with Jackal that pm games tend to suck because people post a lot less in the thread and many vets say that town tends to rely too much on blues and confirming people. Remember , the flip confirms someone. I am against Jackal lynch fully. I am more than happy to lynch someone scummy lurking. As for Zentor my gut still says town but the things shown are at least weird . Although I have hard time reading the thread because I dont sleep much or well at all so I get tired fast and am really weak after school.
About Node : check his pregame posts. Check his in game posts. Did he just get lazy?
On phone so cant quote. Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 06:22 Kurumi wrote:On April 18 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote:
How is jackal active? He doesn't scumhunt, have basicly no scumreads and as far as I know he haven't talked to anyone exept for gm and sandroba in pm's.
1. Kurumi do you think we should kill all the lurking newbies who is likely town before we start scumhunting?
2. And how is jackals filter better then theirs? It is Jackal damnit. I dont say Jackal has done excellent scumhunting so far because he had done little to none, but I dont see how killing a guy who is around benefits us when we have people like Node talking how good town they want to play this game and the game starts and he goes lurky as hell. Sinani has meta of being lurky, just like damn Kenpachi and we cant do much. There are people who certainly know how to play but are lurking. Wbg is not as active as usual too. The item thing looks indeed pretty strong , although unless sandroba himself does not posses such an item then he cant be sure who is lying(if someone is) I just think we are at a similar situation like with Ace. We might be pulling the trigger too quickly. Jackal, have You lied to sandroba about Your item? Kurumi votes for Jackal as Captain first. The bandwagon doesn't pick up, so he wastes his vote for Talismania. He also votes for me as a lynch and never switches to the alien overlord. In summary, he defends two people we know are scum, l10f and Jackal; attacks somebody who we know to be pro town, sandroba, and tries to start a bandwagon lynch against me without taking responsibility!! I'm wondering why nobody has seen this yet. Just sayin'.
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On April 19 2012 14:31 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 14:27 VayeshMoru wrote:
.... Vayesh also thinks zentor and kurumi could be both town. I agree it's possible, but I'd still like to know why MrZentor didn't follow up his case with a vote. Seems like he was a little hesitant to back up what I would agree is a good case with his actions, which is a scum move - trying not to stick his neck out too far. If he's town he'll have a good reason though.
Vayesh would suggest that anyone heavily suspected of being an alien but is given a chance to prove he is not and fails to follow through would die. As such an alien or crew member would be slightly afraid to start a wagon no? Vayesh thinks this is logical from his com room.
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On April 19 2012 14:34 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 14:31 Snarfs wrote:On April 19 2012 14:27 VayeshMoru wrote:
.... Vayesh also thinks zentor and kurumi could be both town. I agree it's possible, but I'd still like to know why MrZentor didn't follow up his case with a vote. Seems like he was a little hesitant to back up what I would agree is a good case with his actions, which is a scum move - trying not to stick his neck out too far. If he's town he'll have a good reason though. Vayesh would suggest that anyone heavily suspected of being an alien but is given a chance to prove he is not and fails to follow through would die. As such an alien or crew member would be slightly afraid to start a wagon no? Vayesh thinks this is logical from his com room.
Ah, true enough. I forgot to account for the fact that he is already under scrutiny. Quite logical Vayesh 
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On April 19 2012 11:35 MrZentor wrote:Kurumi spreads doubt about if Sand is town. Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:On April 13 2012 22:52 risk.nuke wrote:On April 13 2012 22:48 Kurumi wrote:On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote:On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote:On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock. Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions? wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit. Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba? I'm asking you why you think the way you do? You do have reasons right. So do the pro-town thing and share them. I'm interested. I find it amusing that I asked Coag and You're the person to respond. 1st People want to lynch Ace for no reason. (some say it's a joke-gone-real) 2nd He actually says something related and helpful to the game. 3rd Sandroba has gone the same way like he did in his scum games. Say skype publicly and try to mess in the pm land. He wanted me to claim to him because he somehow knows a mechanics present in the game giving him possibility to break it.
Bullshit. His excuse for voting Jackal as captain is that he wants somebody against Sand. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote:
As for now Jackal's my vote. I'll vote for whoever is against sandroba.
Talismania, You might need a shovel. He defends l10f. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 22:27 Kurumi wrote:Remember this post? On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote:On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote:On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote:Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____* I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum? The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default. Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this? + Show Spoiler [*] +I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here? Which town read? Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little. That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f. There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy? My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones) You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it. You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY? You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy! You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares. I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic" Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions! He doesn't want responsibility for the Zentor bandwagon, because he knows it will end in a mislynched townie. Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 07:32 Kurumi wrote:On April 17 2012 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ouch that's gotta sting Zentor - Kurumi nice catch.
Who are your partners Zentor? Not mine. Layabout's. He defends Jackal hard. Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:
Its five not two. Anyway, the item name inconsistency might be solved by host trying to save the setup from being broken. Also guys. Lets go with the words of another confirmed town Ace. We should not lynch active players. I agree with Jackal that pm games tend to suck because people post a lot less in the thread and many vets say that town tends to rely too much on blues and confirming people. Remember , the flip confirms someone. I am against Jackal lynch fully. I am more than happy to lynch someone scummy lurking. As for Zentor my gut still says town but the things shown are at least weird . Although I have hard time reading the thread because I dont sleep much or well at all so I get tired fast and am really weak after school.
About Node : check his pregame posts. Check his in game posts. Did he just get lazy?
On phone so cant quote. Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 06:22 Kurumi wrote:On April 18 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote:
How is jackal active? He doesn't scumhunt, have basicly no scumreads and as far as I know he haven't talked to anyone exept for gm and sandroba in pm's.
1. Kurumi do you think we should kill all the lurking newbies who is likely town before we start scumhunting?
2. And how is jackals filter better then theirs? It is Jackal damnit. I dont say Jackal has done excellent scumhunting so far because he had done little to none, but I dont see how killing a guy who is around benefits us when we have people like Node talking how good town they want to play this game and the game starts and he goes lurky as hell. Sinani has meta of being lurky, just like damn Kenpachi and we cant do much. There are people who certainly know how to play but are lurking. Wbg is not as active as usual too. The item thing looks indeed pretty strong , although unless sandroba himself does not posses such an item then he cant be sure who is lying(if someone is) I just think we are at a similar situation like with Ace. We might be pulling the trigger too quickly. Jackal, have You lied to sandroba about Your item? Kurumi votes for Jackal as Captain first. The bandwagon doesn't pick up, so he wastes his vote for Talismania. He also votes for me as a lynch and never switches to the alien overlord. In summary, he defends two people we know are scum, l10f and Jackal; attacks somebody who we know to be pro town, sandroba, and tries to start a bandwagon lynch against me without taking responsibility!! I'm wondering why nobody has seen this yet. Just sayin'.
It sucks that I need to respond to that on my phone but I wont be able to use my pc for like ten hours so the faster I can respond to this the better it is for us.
Of course I would spread doubt about sandroba day one , check out my agenda and it is consistent until d2, when I claim to him. As a host myself I found it unlikely that there would be an easy way to find scum thanks to items. Breaking the game is unusual. Besides, I am against claiming d1 unless it is some type of plan. I had no idea what sandroba had planned so I was really against it.
I voted Jackal because he is pretty good town player, tends to die early, tends to hold blue roles but is a null read for at least a cycle. As I disliked the plan and gmarshal was not against it I was left with no choice but to vote someone different. Remember, You were a candidate too, but I was leaning scum on You then.
The first 'defense' where I supposedly defended l10f was not one. I just showed that layabout pointed fingers at two players. That is not a defense.
As for Jackal it was the guilt for Ace's death and me still having doubts about the setup. There is only that .
As for me not taking responsibility for Your lynch... Check my post again. What it basically says is "dont give me credit for something I havent done. It was layabouts job."
By the way the deadline is 3am in Europe so I miss a bit of things. A lot when some crazy sw
itching happens. I was considering voting Jackal outright but it did not clear up for me. As more info entered the thread I was more confident that people are right. So I decided that I will sleep for now and check it again. Forgot that the day would end that night. Chaoser whats the thing with Node lying?
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Honestly, I don't think that case against Kurumi is that solid...
I see a lot of connections that you are making..but I don't think a scum would defend their fellow scum-mates that frequently... would be WAY too suspicious....
As for my vote... I'm still reading and such.... which is barely useful based off the thread and how everyone just PMs;;
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Apparently I replaced GM?! I have no clue how that happened. Haven't followed the game and haven't talked to GM about replacing. I'm quite busy today so won't have much time. I've PM'd DH.
If this was a mistake feel free to replace me. I'll read more when I have time.
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I fucked up and Drazerk was the right replacement
This is why I make kita count the votes
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Has Echelon been active in PM-land? He's been very thread-quiet recently.
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