I'm leaning scum on Mr. Wiggles.
@VisceraEyes You have been flaky on wherebugsgo, where do you stand now?
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On April 03 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Sup? I'm leaning scum on Mr. Wiggles. @VisceraEyes You have been flaky on wherebugsgo, where do you stand now? | ||
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Going to bed now, see you guys. | ||
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On April 03 2012 22:12 Bluelightz wrote: My explanation sucks i guess here is a new and clear one I CAN ORDER THE MODS FOR THE QUEUE TO BE BOOBY TRAPPED THE NEXT DAY. IM USING IT TODAY SO D2 WILL HAVE A POSITION IN THE QUEUE BOOBY TRAPPED 3 RANDOMIZED POSITIONS IN THE QUEUE WILL BE ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY THE NEXT DAY, BUT ONLY 1 IS BOOBY TRAPPED. I CAN USE THIS POWER 2 TIMES. And the guy explodes during the next night post i.e(activate on night 1 explode on night 2 post so the guy wont instantly explode loll) SIDENOTE: RANDOMIZED BY MODS. What made you decide to use this power when you could just not use this power? | ||
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On April 03 2012 22:24 Bluelightz wrote: Me atleast confirmed to my role and less PoPs to be used to keel people? We will have to use PoPs to get towny people out of potentially booby trapped positions and it's not a reliable way to kill scum since we don't know what position kills them. This will just lead to chaos, the whole role is so scum favored that I'm having second thoughts about your alignment. I trust your claim though because no scum would invent such a scum favored role just to randomly claim it. | ||
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If I had a gun I'd shoot either Sbrubbles or Mattchew. | ||
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On April 04 2012 00:11 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2012 22:49 prplhz wrote: So far everything you've been doing is being blatantly bad while bumping townies into the red. I bumped them because they asked to be bumped. I was one of the initiators of the get palmar the item plan. I believe I was the first to push VE to save him. Why is this blatantly bad? That's blatantly bad because you seem to be perfectly happy just PoPing stuff that carries no responsibility at all. I didn't understand the "getting me within a spot of of palmar" until you just explained it. You didn't use any PoPs to try to get scum lynched and you didn't seem to care about that at all. Your filter is totally devoid of any reads. | ||
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I just can't get over why Ace and Kurumi would give a scum role to a townie but as long as it isn't overpowered then I don't care. | ||
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I'm not opposed to killing Tobon either but I don't think he's as safe as Bluelightz and syllogism. Of syllogism and Cephiro I'm up for killing syllogism first. I don't like the weird Cephiro-item plan, similar plan went horribly wrong yesterday and we don't know what other powers that scum might have. Lets just pull Bluelightz and push syllogism. Other than that, I think that the lights-out scum ability was not only to cause chaos in conjunction with Bluelightz role (I imagine we could see the potentially booby trapped positions if there were lights?), but also to make risk.nuke's DT ability useless for today. I still believe in risk.nuke's role claim. | ||
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How about that? @Cephiro Bluelightz is confirmed scum because he used his ability when it's a scum favored ability and he was told so in the thread by me and by layabout. He absolutely has to die. The only reason to push you to kill syllogism instead of pushing syllogism to kill syllogism is that you will get the item. I don't like the plan though because in case scum has some hidden ability, like another nullified or something similar they can mess with us, maybe especially so now that the lights are out. I want to kill syllogism and I'd rather push syllogism. The item isn't worth it like it wasn't worth it yesterday. I don't want to end up in a similar situation because we want some item. | ||
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On April 04 2012 14:43 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2012 14:33 prplhz wrote: Okay why is nobody talking about confirmed scum Bluelightz? I say we all pull him. I'm not opposed to killing Tobon either but I don't think he's as safe as Bluelightz and syllogism. Of syllogism and Cephiro I'm up for killing syllogism first. I don't like the weird Cephiro-item plan, similar plan went horribly wrong yesterday and we don't know what other powers that scum might have. Lets just pull Bluelightz and push syllogism. Other than that, I think that the lights-out scum ability was not only to cause chaos in conjunction with Bluelightz role (I imagine we could see the potentially booby trapped positions if there were lights?), but also to make risk.nuke's DT ability useless for today. I still believe in risk.nuke's role claim. Explain why you're calling Bluelightz confirmed-scum? His role doesn't bode well for him, but Palmar had a role I thought might be in the hands of scum. It certainly seems like you like playing with extremes this game. I certainly have no problem with killing Bluelightz, but from what I recall you defended him just in your previous post. Look: Show nested quote + On April 04 2012 03:01 prplhz wrote: I really doubt that Bluelightz is scum. I didn't think so before the claim and his outbursts in face of the scrutiny he was under during his absence seem genuine and townlike. Furthermore, that claim doesn't do him any good since he's claiming a scum role, the only thing the claim actually does is make sure that he can never use his power without getting lynched so the claim makes little sense from scum perspective. I just can't get over why Ace and Kurumi would give a scum role to a townie but as long as it isn't overpowered then I don't care. What gives? Indeed, early in the game when I asked you about Blue, you said this: Show nested quote + On April 02 2012 09:34 prplhz wrote: I didn't say that Tobon is better than Bluelightz. He is though, don't you agree? Or am I never going to get any answer out of you? Hopefully they'll both come into this thread and we can get a better look at them. Right now, Tobon looks more careful than Bluelightz, who is very clearly trolling. You look scummier by the minute, prpl. In addition you were pretty much defending syllogism yesterday and now all of a sudden you want to kill him. Why the change of heart? You wanted to kill Cephiro over syllo yesterday; now you want to kill syllo. Surely, you can change your mind, but this seems like a very calculated and spur of the moment move. I already explained why I'm calling Bluelightz confirmed scum. It's not because of his role, that doesn't mean anything about his alignment. It's because he used a scum favored role. If town had that role they would just not use it but he chose to use it so he is scum. Both layabout and I warned him about it when he claimed yesterday. His first posts looked very trollish to me and I don't think that scum would put their ass on the line like that. With him using his scum favored role when he's been asked not to, I would want to lynch him almost no matter what other indication there was about his alignment. I was defending syllogism yesterday because I'd much rather kill Sbrubbles. I wanted to kill Cephiro over syllogism some part of yesterday but I changed my mind and I'm pretty sure that is reflected in my posts too (I think I called Cephiro town at some point). | ||
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##Pull Bluelightz Cephiro, yes, you are tunneling. I don't really care if you're tunneling town (me) or scum (syllogism), it's still annoying for town and I'm not really worried about scum using a power to get you killed. If you look at my earlier post I clearly state that I'd rather push syllogism, I'm just saying that if everybody is hooked on the idea of pushing you then that's also okay with me. If you are somehow going to WIFOM yourself into wanting to push syllogism instead of yourself then that's cool with me because that's what I wanted in the first place. | ||
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On April 04 2012 15:00 wherebugsgo wrote: syllo is not mod confirmed red because risk nuke has not flipped. There is still a chance you're both green and risk is red. risk.nuke being red is just pretty crazy, we saw the red light beacon and he is claiming a role from the first game. Unless scum were provided safe claims he could have been counter claimed in an instant and I don't think that scum would risk that. | ||
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On April 04 2012 20:06 Bluelightz wrote: If I die and I gurantee everyone I will flip blue. Keel prp if this happens. No one is disputing your claim, no one ever did. If you read the OP you'd see that everybody in this game has a role, it's in game mechanic 10; everybody is going to flip "blue" (or green as people actually just flip). You were told repeatedly not to use an ability because it was scum favored and then you go ahead and do it anyway. If you're town this is by far the worst performance I have ever seen from a townie. I'm getting a feeling that you're actually town, you're just not reading the thread, and relying solely on having an ability to confirm that you're town, but none of this matters. After what you did, town has to kill you. Let me restate the very clear case on Bluelightz:
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On April 04 2012 20:15 syllogism wrote: It doesn't seem possible to even kill ceph today as assuming the nullifying power can be used more than once, scum will just nullify him after we've wasted PoPs on him. Even if they can't do that, he may not be lying about having some sort of power that allows him to switch places in the queue. Using this logic, it's not going to be possible to kill any scum ever as they will just nullify whoever is on the line. Maybe nullify only works on non-scum or maybe it only works in the red zone, the other thing is just crazy. | ||
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On April 04 2012 22:43 Bluelightz wrote: Umm just kill me and waste your damn PoPs on me while scum just hide and giggle at how prplhz is destorying town from the inside then. I don't see your logic on how im scum, you just said I used my ability then im scum? Fuck this, ##Pull: prplhz Hey scum, DIE What does it mean that I'm "destroying town from the inside"? | ||
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On April 04 2012 22:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Has anybody claimed the kill on Palmar or Shrubbles yet? This is important to me. If you shot one of Palmar/Shrubbles, and haven't claimed yet, please do so. I won't be mad. I promise. I'm going to wait, and see what kind of answer I get to this. It will influence how I act today. Bluelightz said that positions 24 and 2 are bombed, which means a point in the danger zone already, and the very other end of the queue. So long as we don't pull people we don't want to kill, we should be fine. The bombs are already laid, so killing bluelightz right now won't do anything. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to see if he's telling the truth, and then if he lied about the bombs, kill him the next day. He also shouldn't lay any more bombs. The point of this idea is to use our PoPs on other people, and hopefully get better discussion. risk, can you please answer my question? Your power is still useful if you pop it one minute before the day post, if the queue is revealed again. Do we get to see the queue at the end of the day? Also, sorry for only glancing at who died before posting, lol. Hey Mr. Wiggles why did you want to kill Bluelightz yesterday but not today? risk.nuke said yesterday that he could use this ability again today if he wanted to. | ||
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April 04 2012 20:14 GMT
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##Push Cephiro | ||
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April 05 2012 06:59 GMT
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We don't know if he can nullify scum or if he can nullify people outside of the red zone. I think it would be weird if he could just nullify anybody anywhere whenever because then it's going to be nigh impossible to lynch scum ever, especially since it has multiple charges. It seems a lot more reasonable to think that it probably can't do any more than we've seen it do yet. I have no idea why we decided to kill syllogism by pushing Cephiro, when a more simple and straight forward way would be to push syllogism. Cephiro can use whatever ability he has some other time when lights are back on and we have more control over what is happening. Anyway, since you guys are already lynching Bluelightz and syllogism and I don't have any more PoPs I'm probably going to be less active for the rest of the day. | ||
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April 05 2012 07:50 GMT
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Doesn't matter if he had another shot, he should have claimed that shot and then just acted like he didn't have another shot. Scum only has 1KP so it's not unreasonable to think that they could have some sort of additional KP, but then I would probably have claimed the hit anyway. Ultimately, I think it was a pretty poor choice for scum to shoot Sbrubbles no matter who is scum of Cephiro/syllogism/risk.nuke, even if none of them are scum they're sucking up so much discussion. No matter how I try to think about Sbrubbles dying, I end up thinking that scum had no reason shooting him, and town had no reason shooting him and then not claim. If you're the townie who shot Sbrubbles, claim next time. Nobody would expect you to have 2 (or more) bullets, especially not in this game. I don't know if it makes more sense that there is a Serial Killer or something like that. the Sbrubbles hit without the claim makes it look like that. @syllogism I don't get why Cephiro is confirmed scum because he was nullified since he asked to be pushed himself. If he was scum and he wanted the votes to go to waste, then he would just not have pushed his weird plan and instead have people push you. He could also just have had himself nullified earlier and then have himself pushed 13 times or something before claiming it (from a hypothetical start 8 position to a 20 position, before hitting item). If he is scum and he wasn't actually nullified but he just didn't want himself pushed into the red zone, that's just too crazy and too much could go awry, it would be much easier to just get you pushed. | ||
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