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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Go rescue squad! ^.^ | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
VisceraEyes picks up Palmar Current positions - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + 24.[Item] [___________] 23.[___________] [___________] 22.[___________] [___________] 21.[___________][___________] 20.[___________][___________] 19.[VisceraEyes/Palmar] [___________] 18.[___________][___________] 17.[Mr.Wiggles] [cascades] 16.[Nemesis][Dirkzor] 15. [Bill Murray] [Mr.Zentor] 14. [___________][___________] 13.[Snarfs][Tobon] 12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz] 11. [Acrofales][layabout] 10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz] 9. [___________][___________] 8. [___________][___________] 7. [risk.nuke][syllogism] 6. [Sbrubbles][___________] 5. [Cephiro][___________] 4. [___________][___________] 3. [___________] [___________] 2. [___________] [___________] 1. [___________] [___________] PoPs - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + Mr.Wiggles Bluelightz Push Dirkzor VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz risk.nuke Sbrubbles Push VisceraEyes Dirkzor Mattchew Pull Palmar Push VisceraEyes Snarfs Push cascades Pull Palmar Cephiro Push VisceraEyes Tobon Push layabout Pull Cephiro wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz layabout syllogism Push Bill Murray Pull Sbrubbles Mr.Zentor prplhz Push VisceraEyes Acrofales Push VisceraEyes Bill Murray Pull Palmar cascadesPull Palmar Palmar Nemesis Push Tobon Pull VisceraEyes | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
My own opinions are still the same as they were earlier: Out of the top people, I would like to see cascades pushed to death. Out of the bottom people, I would like to see syllogism pushed to death. I was a bit more even with Sbrubbles and syllogism earlier, but Sbrubbles latest post was at least decent, and the way phrplz acted makes syllo look worse in my eyes. I have one pull left, which I will be most likely using on either Sbrubbles or syllogism. (Preferably the latter, but I'd prefer a kill over none at all.), or if it looks bad, I will buffer VE/Palmar. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_dodging I ask you why you're defending syllogism. You respond with: and falls under: I ask you whether the "yes" was to "are you defending syllo" or "are you calling syllo town" or both, no answer there. So, are you going to answer my questions or are you going to continue dodging? Your day 1 effort in trying to find scum has been nonexistent, to say the least. Day 1 ends in 4 hours, and you've done nothing but meekly state we should lynch cephiro based on risk's roleclaim and the apparent lack of a better target. Yes, I am defending syllogism, yes, I think he is town. No, I'm not going to write a lot about syllogism. "Dodging" is probably a poor description of what I'm doing, I'm straight up refusing to do it because I see no reason to do it right now. Overall he seems to care about the game, he's been reasonably active and then I don't like the idea of lynching syllogism on day1. "I don't think he has done anything scummy yet", do you want me to go through all of his posts and explain sentence after sentence why they're not scummy? I want to lynch Cephiro because I think his early posts looked very careful and because he seemed irrationally afraid that Palmar should get the item. I already stated this in the thread I believe so you're just misrepresenting when you say it's based on "risk's roleclaim and the apparent lack of a better target". On April 03 2012 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote: prpl, out of curiosity - what makes you "trust (Palmar) to be town"? I mean, obviously I'm townie town-town, but why Palmar? He was nullified by scum and would be a pretty poor move if Palmar was scum. On April 03 2012 09:15 Cephiro wrote: I love how you keep dodging the question wbg points at you, just trying to focus on me. And the only thing that you have on me is that I seemed "afraid" of Palmar getting the item. Very convincing. Why do you think wbg has convinced me? He brought up a very good point which I do agree with. That doesn't mean he has me in a leash or anything of the sort. In all honesty, you are digging your own grave with every new post you make. Do you honestly want to look what this looks like to me? It looks like you're trying to divert the attention from your scumbuddy syllogism to a townie mislynch. It looks to me like you're speculating wildly and writing dumb stuff in bold letters. Maybe you're not scum after all. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:30 prplhz wrote: He was nullified by scum and would be a pretty poor move if Palmar was scum. Okay, I believe this is what they call WIFOM. But I'd like to point it out anyway: How could you know for sure he was nullified by scum? I do admit that it certainly doesn't look like a pro-town move, but there is a slight possibility it could have been a townie ability. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:34 Cephiro wrote: Okay, I believe this is what they call WIFOM. But I'd like to point it out anyway: How could you know for sure he was nullified by scum? I do admit that it certainly doesn't look like a pro-town move, but there is a slight possibility it could have been a townie ability. If town actually wanted to help, they would claim the fact that they're trying to doom Palmar. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
As opposed to letting everyone else waste their PoPs rescuing him. It's not WIFOM, it's playing to win and if a town did it and didn't claim it they wouldn't be playing to win, they'd be directly working against their own win condition. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:32 Snarfs wrote: @Nemesis: Are your pulls supposed to move people 3 spaces as opposed to 2? Sorry if I missed this but I just want to confirm that this wasn't a counting error and/or some other effects are working here. No, only 2 spaces. I have no idea how he got moved 3 spaces. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:30 prplhz wrote: Yes, I am defending syllogism, yes, I think he is town. No, I'm not going to write a lot about syllogism. "Dodging" is probably a poor description of what I'm doing, I'm straight up refusing to do it because I see no reason to do it right now. Overall he seems to care about the game, he's been reasonably active and then I don't like the idea of lynching syllogism on day1. "I don't think he has done anything scummy yet", do you want me to go through all of his posts and explain sentence after sentence why they're not scummy? I want to lynch Cephiro because I think his early posts looked very careful and because he seemed irrationally afraid that Palmar should get the item. I already stated this in the thread I believe so you're just misrepresenting when you say it's based on "risk's roleclaim and the apparent lack of a better target". He was nullified by scum and would be a pretty poor move if Palmar was scum. It looks to me like you're speculating wildly and writing dumb stuff in bold letters. Maybe you're not scum after all. syllo seems to care about the game? Is that why he advised against random PoPing and then pushed BM randomly? Is that why he's advocating that others join him in trying to kill BM? You have no basis for your assertion that Cephiro was "irrationally afraid" of Palmar getting the item. Indeed, in no way have you even shown how fear of Palmar getting an item is scummy. All you do is continually assert this single thing over and over, and you of all people should know that is no way to find scum. I find it hard to believe that you are actually town with your stubborn refusal to cooperate so far. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
@ Nemesis: The Horsie Toy in DF1 was able to move one spot upwards or downwards once per day if I'm not mistaken, and that could be the explanation. I think VE used it on his way upward to Palmar though? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Why? Because I think he's the most likely to be scum out of the 3 of Cephiro, Sbrabbles, and he. ##pull syllogism I advise anyone with a pull left to consider which one of Cephiro/Sbrabbles/syllo you think is most likely scum. So far merely by the effort put in by these three players, and the tone of their posts, syllogism looks the scummiest to me. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
I know that one of Sbrabbles & syllogism is scum, and at the moment syllogism looks scummier to me due to aforementioned reasons. That's my PoP for today. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:39 wherebugsgo wrote: syllo seems to care about the game? Is that why he advised against random PoPing and then pushed BM randomly? Is that why he's advocating that others join him in trying to kill BM? You have no basis for your assertion that Cephiro was "irrationally afraid" of Palmar getting the item. Indeed, in no way have you even shown how fear of Palmar getting an item is scummy. All you do is continually assert this single thing over and over, and you of all people should know that is no way to find scum. I find it hard to believe that you are actually town with your stubborn refusal to cooperate so far. Really? wherebugsgo, really? You have been screaming out for hours for me to prove that syllogism is town, how terribly stubborn and useless has that been? Do you really think anything you've said so far makes me scum? I see that you appear to think I have contradicted myself, been stubborn, and refused to give reads, but do you think any of this makes me scum? On April 03 2012 09:34 Cephiro wrote: Okay, I believe this is what they call WIFOM. But I'd like to point it out anyway: How could you know for sure he was nullified by scum? I do admit that it certainly doesn't look like a pro-town move, but there is a slight possibility it could have been a townie ability. Okay. Then lets assume that. If there's 95% chance of the thing that I'm assuming then why are you even complaining? What do you gain by this other than just ruining whatever shred of a case you had against me by proving conclusively that you're just tunneling me? I can understand wherebugsgo, he has some crazy idea that getting on people's nerves will make his read of them better (I totally disagree with that, he's better in observer QTs because he isn't in the game to screw everything up), but why are you doing it? I'm kinda leaning more town on you after reading through your filter. You seems excessively active for a scum, even though a lot of it has been mindless OMGUS aggression against me spurred on by wherebugsgo. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Current positions - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + 24.[Item] [___________] 23.[___________] [___________] 22.[___________] [___________] 21.[___________][___________] 20.[___________][___________] 19.[VisceraEyes/Palmar] [___________] 18.[___________][___________] 17.[Mr.Wiggles] [cascades] 16.[Nemesis][Dirkzor] 15. [Bill Murray] [Mr.Zentor] 14. [___________][___________] 13.[Snarfs][Tobon] 12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz] 11. [Acrofales][layabout] 10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz] 9. [___________][___________] 8. [___________][___________] 7. [risk.nuke][___________] 6. [Sbrubbles][___________] 5. [Cephiro][syllogism] 4. [___________][___________] 3. [___________] [___________] 2. [___________] [___________] 1. [___________] [___________] PoPs - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + Mr.Wiggles Bluelightz Push Dirkzor VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz risk.nuke Sbrubbles Push VisceraEyes Dirkzor Mattchew Pull Palmar Push VisceraEyes Snarfs Push cascades Pull Palmar Cephiro Push VisceraEyes Pull syllogism Tobon Push layabout Pull Cephiro wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz Pull syllogism layabout syllogism Push Bill Murray Pull Sbrubbles Mr.Zentor prplhz Push VisceraEyes Acrofales Push VisceraEyes Bill Murray Pull Palmar cascadesPull Palmar Palmar Nemesis Push Tobon Pull VisceraEyes | ||
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