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VisceraEyes
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Going to bed now, see you guys. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
##pull syllogism Another point is that we may be able to get another lynch in by pushing. There are still 8 pushes around and what I see as two viable candidates: Bluelightz: Gives a town read list almost first thing in the game then gives a strange explanation and lets it drop. Wtf? Pressured, he claims an ability that I just can't see as being town. I mean, lay down bombs and only he knows where they're at? Even if it's legit, I think it'd be too risky to use it. Above all, I think he needs to come here and use his pull. Cascades: He does a pull on Palmar to just to check if he was telling the truth when there was no purpose in him lying, even if he was scum. I mean, it would make sense if he was arguing in favor of Palmar getting his item, but otherwise a strange move. His suggestion on writing down what you expect to happen when you PoP imho doesn't add much and doesn't help. But it's a way to appear useful. This is the strange thing, though: On April 03 2012 01:17 cascades wrote: Dumb role, but if it is what you got, can't blame you. I like Bluelightz 's response. Going to cut him slack for his earlier inactivity due to wife/internet and stuff. How can he cut Blue's slack when he never pressured him in the first place? Opinions? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On April 03 2012 10:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I pull out ze Wiggle Call (patent pending).... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/box_004/post_14/492090_12052083_b.jpg) YOU RANG? On April 03 2012 10:00 wherebugsgo wrote: actually let's just get him to post. Wiggles, who would you push right now for scum and who would you pull? I know you said you liked syllo for lynch best out of the trio; what do you think of prplhz and Palmar? As a general note I think we need to keep tabs on the missing players right now; notably, Mattchew, BM, and cascades. Out of those 3 I'm most comfortable with killing cascades. Like I said, I want to see Shrubbles and Syllo post a bit more. If they don't do so, or their posting doesn't change my read, I'm planning on pulling Syllo. I think either of Mattchew or Bluelightz are good targets for my push, and I'd probably go with Bluelightz. I don't like Bluelightz' claim, as it comes out of nowhere, and serves no pro-town purpose. I don't really see the point of it, except to maybe scrape up some kind of town cred. If he's telling the truth about his role, it means that we can't do anything during the day until we decide who to pull to explode the possibly trapped places, and it also lets scum move people there if they have hidden pushes/pulls, to net extra kills. Like I said, revealing his role at that point makes no sense, and serves no good purpose for the town. His other posts aren't stellar either. Mattchew's been somewhat useless and I'd like to see how he responds to actual pressure. I don't like his posting so far. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On April 03 2012 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Wiggles make me understand - were you trying to get a rise out of me to further your read? It seemed very contradictory to me sir, and I'd like to hear your reasoning. The wind-up thing was a pun, because we're all toys. It really meant nothing, just like how I ended the post with "Don't toy with me.". I wasn't trying to get any rise out of you, you did it yourself. I asked you why you trusted Palmar enough to give him the item, and you went off on some rant about confirmed townies and how I think we should flip BM and waste all our PoPs on that so we can confirm people. From my perspective, I asked you a question, and you went a little crazy. So, I asked why you went off like that. I'm not sure where you read me as trying to get a rise out of you. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
As for the other two, I'm a bit unsure, but I'm leaning towards sbrubbles being more likely to be scum due to lurking and trying to put suspicion onto syllogism and cephiro. Right now, I still think that Tobon is scum. I'll summarize my case against him later as I have to go for now. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On April 02 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: No, I don't think someone needs to be confirmed to get the item, but I think that we should see how they post, and get an idea of what their alignment is. There's a difference between judging someone to be town based off their posts, and just blindly trusting them. I think the best indicator of his alignment would be him posting, but he's not doing that, so there's absolutely no reason to think he's town. How he uses the item won't even tell us very much about his alignment either, in my opinion, and that's if he even tells you what it is. It's easy to think of ways to use the items that look pro-town, but don't actually benefit us. I find it interesting that when I ask a question about why you trust Palmar enough to give him the item, you make gross exaggerations and act incredibly defensive about it. I didn't suggest someone has to be confirmed to be eligible to get the item, and I didn't suggest to flip anyone to try to confirm people, or to waste our PoP's getting the item with someone far up the queue. Why did you jump to being so irrationally defensive and using exaggerated rhetoric when I asked you a simple question, VE? @WBG: I'm not exactly sure who I want to kill right now. Based off this last post, and thinking that giving Palmar an item because he asked for it is the most pro-town thing we could do, maybe VE. Or, based on his complete lack of effort, we could flip Palmar. What do you think of Palmar and VE, WBG? I see you linked a couple people who haven't posted and said you want to kill them, so what do you think of Palmar with his one post? The bolded paragraph is what I'm referring to - I was just trying to get at what you meant when talking about "trusting Palmar enough with the item" or whatever. It seemed strange to me that you thought we should wait for someone "trustworthy" to go for the item, especially considering how deep into the incineration zone one would have to go to GET the item. Your response was accusatory - language like "gross exaggerations", "irrationally defensive" and "exaggerated rhetoric" all seem designed to be inflammatory. Am I just reading too much into it or something? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Current positions - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + 24.[Item] [___________] 23.[___________] [___________] 22.[___________] [___________] 21.[___________][___________] 20.[___________][___________] 19.[VisceraEyes] [Palmar] 18.[___________][___________] 17.[Mr.Wiggles] [cascades] 16.[Nemesis][Dirkzor] 15. [Bill Murray] [Mr.Zentor] 14. [___________][___________] 13.[Snarfs][Tobon] 12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz] 11. [Acrofales][layabout] 10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz] 9. [___________][___________] 8. [___________][___________] 7. [risk.nuke][___________] 6. [___________][___________] 5. [Cephiro][___________] 4. [Sbrubbles][syllogism] 3. [___________] [___________] 2. [___________] [___________] 1. [___________] [___________] PoPs - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + Mr.Wiggles Bluelightz Push Dirkzor VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz risk.nuke Sbrubbles Push VisceraEyes Pull syllogism Dirkzor Mattchew Pull Palmar Push VisceraEyes Snarfs Push cascades Pull Palmar Cephiro Push VisceraEyes Pull syllogism Tobon Push layabout Pull Cephiro wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz Pull syllogism layabout syllogism Push Bill Murray Pull Sbrubbles Mr.Zentor prplhz Push VisceraEyes Pull Sbrubbles Acrofales Push VisceraEyes Bill Murray Pull Palmar cascadesPull Palmar Palmar Nemesis Push Tobon Pull VisceraEyes | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
And where the EFF did Bugs go? Why am I the only one around 2 hours from deadline?! | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
Also, last time I saw him get accused of being scum when he was town, he laid down and died, essentially. Not like this time where he comes back guns blazing and being quite over-sensitive. Plus, as sbrubbles pointed out, there's cascades and the soft defending of Bluelightz. I noticed that awhile ago and wanted to see if anyone else pointed it out. Sbrubbles gained some town points from me. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Wiggles you have less than 2 hours to use your actions. I doubt syllo is even here to be honest, it's night time in Europe. | ||
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