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On April 03 2012 09:44 prplhz wrote:
Okay. Then lets assume that.
If there's 95% chance of the thing that I'm assuming then why are you even complaining? What do you gain by this other than just ruining whatever shred of a case you had against me by proving conclusively that you're just tunneling me? I can understand wherebugsgo, he has some crazy idea that getting on people's nerves will make his read of them better (I totally disagree with that, he's better in observer QTs because he isn't in the game to screw everything up), but why are you doing it? I'm kinda leaning more town on you after reading through your filter. You seems excessively active for a scum, even though a lot of it has been mindless OMGUS aggression against me spurred on by wherebugsgo.
Wbg simply pointed out a contradiction you did, you brought the rest up on yourself only by your own actions.
Guess what? I don't care if you lean more town on me now. At the moment you would have to do much more than try to buddy with me to change my mind about you. So if you're trying to get me out of the way, I dare you to kill me at night. Because you ain't getting rid of me that easily. Also just fyi, I have no need to tunnel on you. I have several other scumreads, but you're just strengthening yours by every post you make.
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On April 03 2012 09:44 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 09:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On April 03 2012 09:30 prplhz wrote:On April 03 2012 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On April 03 2012 08:55 prplhz wrote:
##Push VisceraEyes
What is you guys' problem? I gave people a heads up so we didn't have any unfortunate accidents and then I went to prepare myself for bed. Jesus christ you're paranoid for absolutely no reason at all. What scum motivation is there for saying that I'm going to push somebody soon and then wait a little while to do it?
"What if it's just a decoy and currently making his way out to steal all of our cereal?"
@wherebugsgo I would really appreciate it if you would at least write out single sentences explaining why you are quoting my posts. I don't understand what you mean by "rofl" so it seems to me like you're just trying to get on my nerves and I don't want any part of that. Mostly, it seemed to me like you weren't thinking at all, you took things out of context and then instead of actually trying to use any arguments you just wrote "rofl" to ridicule me.
I am not going to write a huge syllogism-town analysis when there's no case against him and it doesn't look like he's going to get lynched. Sufficient to say, I'm against lynching him today and I don't like the "scum POV setup speculation" argument that I already responded to.
Cephiro's early posts seemed very careful and I didn't understand his irrationaly fear of Palmar getting the item. This made me think he was scummier than Sbrubbles (who was just afk) and syllogism (who didn't do anything scummy yet).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_dodgingI ask you why you're defending syllogism. You respond with: I am not going to write a huge syllogism-town analysis when there's no case against him and it doesn't look like he's going to get lynched. Sufficient to say, I'm against lynching him today and I don't like the "scum POV setup speculation" argument that I already responded to. and
syllogism (who didn't do anything scummy yet).
falls under: Creating an excuse not to answer ("I'm feeling sick, I can't answer now.")[ I ask you whether the "yes" was to "are you defending syllo" or "are you calling syllo town" or both, no answer there. Refusing to answer ("No comment.") So, are you going to answer my questions or are you going to continue dodging? Your day 1 effort in trying to find scum has been nonexistent, to say the least. Day 1 ends in 4 hours, and you've done nothing but meekly state we should lynch cephiro based on risk's roleclaim and the apparent lack of a better target. Yes, I am defending syllogism, yes, I think he is town. No, I'm not going to write a lot about syllogism. "Dodging" is probably a poor description of what I'm doing, I'm straight up refusing to do it because I see no reason to do it right now. Overall he seems to care about the game, he's been reasonably active and then I don't like the idea of lynching syllogism on day1. "I don't think he has done anything scummy yet", do you want me to go through all of his posts and explain sentence after sentence why they're not scummy? I want to lynch Cephiro because I think his early posts looked very careful and because he seemed irrationally afraid that Palmar should get the item. I already stated this in the thread I believe so you're just misrepresenting when you say it's based on "risk's roleclaim and the apparent lack of a better target".
On April 03 2012 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
prpl, out of curiosity - what makes you "trust (Palmar) to be town"? I mean, obviously I'm townie town-town, but why Palmar? He was nullified by scum and would be a pretty poor move if Palmar was scum. On April 03 2012 09:15 Cephiro wrote:On April 03 2012 09:10 prplhz wrote:
CONTEXT
No, I don't think you were scummy because you did not want Palmar getting the item. I think you were scummy because you seemed afraid of him getting the item. I didn't want him to get the item because I was afraid of putting him into the red zone because scum could have hidden powers. Why were you convinved of anything by a guy whose arguments were "rofl" and "roflx2"?
I'm not eager to throw my vote away. I'd rather use it to pull you towards the edge but more than anything I want Palmar and VisceraEyes alive. I'd rather some people I trust to be town use their PoPs on it but I'll help out because I want it to happen and I can't stay around until deadline. I love how you keep dodging the question wbg points at you, just trying to focus on me. And the only thing that you have on me is that I seemed "afraid" of Palmar getting the item. Very convincing. Why do you think wbg has convinced me? He brought up a very good point which I do agree with. That doesn't mean he has me in a leash or anything of the sort. In all honesty, you are digging your own grave with every new post you make. Do you honestly want to look what this looks like to me? It looks like you're trying to divert the attention from your scumbuddy syllogism to a townie mislynch. It looks to me like you're speculating wildly and writing dumb stuff in bold letters. Maybe you're not scum after all. syllo seems to care about the game? Is that why he advised against random PoPing and then pushed BM randomly? Is that why he's advocating that others join him in trying to kill BM? You have no basis for your assertion that Cephiro was "irrationally afraid" of Palmar getting the item. Indeed, in no way have you even shown how fear of Palmar getting an item is scummy. All you do is continually assert this single thing over and over, and you of all people should know that is no way to find scum. I find it hard to believe that you are actually town with your stubborn refusal to cooperate so far. Really? wherebugsgo, really? You have been screaming out for hours for me to prove that syllogism is town, how terribly stubborn and useless has that been? Do you really think anything you've said so far makes me scum? I see that you appear to think I have contradicted myself, been stubborn, and refused to give reads, but do you think any of this makes me scum?
What a stupid question, of course I think all of those things make you look scum. You could have answered very simply with one word what you meant, but you chose to continue dragging this out. Had you answered simply the first time, perhaps I would never have caught you to begin with! Maybe next time when you roll scum you can consider that.
On April 03 2012 09:44 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 09:34 Cephiro wrote:On April 03 2012 09:30 prplhz wrote:
He was nullified by scum and would be a pretty poor move if Palmar was scum.
Okay, I believe this is what they call WIFOM. But I'd like to point it out anyway: How could you know for sure he was nullified by scum? I do admit that it certainly doesn't look like a pro-town move, but there is a slight possibility it could have been a townie ability. Okay. Then lets assume that. If there's 95% chance of the thing that I'm assuming then why are you even complaining? What do you gain by this other than just ruining whatever shred of a case you had against me by proving conclusively that you're just tunneling me? I can understand wherebugsgo, he has some crazy idea that getting on people's nerves will make his read of them better (I totally disagree with that, he's better in observer QTs because he isn't in the game to screw everything up), but why are you doing it? I'm kinda leaning more town on you after reading through your filter. You seems excessively active for a scum, even though a lot of it has been mindless OMGUS aggression against me spurred on by wherebugsgo.
If you're leaning town on Cephiro then who is the scum out of Sbrabbles + syllogism + Cephiro?
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Actually strike that, I'm paranoid. No more VE pulls. Thanks you.
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Day ends 3 hours, 10 minutes from this post!
VisceraEyes drops Palmar
Current positions - Day 1
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24.[Item] [___________]
23.[___________] [___________]
22.[___________] [___________]
21.[___________][___________]
20.[___________][___________]
19.[VisceraEyes] [Palmar]
18.[___________][___________]
17.[Mr.Wiggles] [cascades]
16.[Nemesis][Dirkzor]
15. [Bill Murray] [Mr.Zentor]
14. [___________][___________]
13.[Snarfs][Tobon]
12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz]
11. [Acrofales][layabout]
10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz]
9. [___________][___________]
8. [___________][___________]
7. [risk.nuke][___________]
6. [Sbrubbles][___________]
5. [Cephiro][syllogism]
4. [___________][___________]
3. [___________] [___________]
2. [___________] [___________]
1. [___________] [___________]
PoPs - Day 1
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Mr.Wiggles
Bluelightz Push Dirkzor
VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz
risk.nuke
Sbrubbles Push VisceraEyes
Dirkzor
Mattchew Pull Palmar Push VisceraEyes
Snarfs Push cascades Pull Palmar
Cephiro Push VisceraEyes Pull syllogism
Tobon Push layabout Pull Cephiro
wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz Pull syllogism
layabout
syllogism Push Bill Murray Pull Sbrubbles
Mr.Zentor
prplhz Push VisceraEyes
Acrofales Push VisceraEyes
Bill Murray Pull Palmar
cascadesPull Palmar
Palmar
Nemesis Push Tobon Pull VisceraEyes
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I think we have enough Pushes to kill Wiggles if everyone comes in and does it...and I think we have enough pulls to kill our choice, but it's close. We may not get a flip today guys. 
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3 pushes to kill Wiggles or cascades. Anyone feeling frisky?
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What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs?
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On April 03 2012 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
3 pushes to kill Wiggles or cascades. Anyone feeling frisky?
I'm still all for a cascades kill if anyone wanted to oblige that desire for me.
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Same question to you prplhz.
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In my opinion cascades > Wiggles and syllogism > Sbrubbles.
I am out of PoP however. Before you make the choice, please re-read both of the filters and make up your own opinion.
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Same to you Snarfs. BM's alignment is in doubt (because he's not here), but he's certainly right about my alignment, so for the moment I'm going to assume he was right about yours too. What do you think about a Wiggles kill vs. cascades?
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On April 03 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs?
don't really have a strong read on him, to be honest. I'll reread his filter now.
From what I saw earlier I didn't find anything suspicious.
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I'm curious how Palmar will react when he finds out that he's still alive tomorrow.
Is VisceraEyes still around?
[b]##Pull Sbrubbles[/br]
Best pull of the 4 who could conceivably be pulled off the board.
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On April 03 2012 09:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same to you Snarfs. BM's alignment is in doubt (because he's not here), but he's certainly right about my alignment, so for the moment I'm going to assume he was right about yours too. What do you think about a Wiggles kill vs. cascades?
As mentioned, cascades hasn't added anything to change my opinion of him being scum.
I don't have a read on Wiggles. Like wbg I'll have to take a closer look at his filter and the context of his posts.
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On April 03 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs?
On April 03 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same question to you prplhz.
Sup?
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Gonna head home from work now though, so don't expect my thoughts on Wiggles until later this evening about an hour or so before deadline.
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actually let's just get him to post.
Wiggles, who would you push right now for scum and who would you pull?
I know you said you liked syllo for lynch best out of the trio; what do you think of prplhz and Palmar?
As a general note I think we need to keep tabs on the missing players right now; notably, Mattchew, BM, and cascades. Out of those 3 I'm most comfortable with killing cascades.
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On April 03 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs? Sup?
I'm leaning scum on Mr. Wiggles.
@VisceraEyes You have been flaky on wherebugsgo, where do you stand now?
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ignore this post. updated it by accident
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