A Game of Thrones Mafia

On March 21 2012 18:51 Acrofales wrote:
Hi everybody!

Well, Curu hasn't said I cannot speculate about Petyr's win condition. Remember that this is idle speculation, but I have read the books a number of times and if Petyr is anything, he is untrustworthy. He only serves his own means, so I am inclined to ignore everything he says, including that he is a vanilla townie

My hunch is that he must kill Ned Stark and keep Catelyn and/or Sansa alive until the end of the game to win.

On March 22 2012 02:17 DoYouHas wrote:
I have already said what I think about Acrofales. He hasn't posted anything new that would change my opinion.

Mayor elections are built into the game by the mod (at least I think so). This game doesn't have it, meaning you would need consensus from most players to get it going. You won't get that, and you would be wasting your time to try. Stop talking about mayors imo.

On March 21 2012 23:39 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, damn it... No editing! However, I just thought that since you HAVE to vote every day, it might not be such a bad idea to throw random votes early. In my previous Mafia games it was common not to lynch anyone on the first day, and wait for clues on the second day. When people random lynched on the first day, it usually just meant an easier win for the Mafia.

On March 22 2012 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Any further discussion will have to wait til I'm home. Be back in about an hour.

PS. I read through a couple of games before signing up for this one. It's quite different to play than to watch! :D

On March 22 2012 05:34 Acrofales wrote:

Because I'm town. How about you?

Also do we want to elect a mayor?

Also can we keep the Hodor's to a minimum?

Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim?

On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway.

On March 22 2012 03:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Explain to us why he is.

On March 23 2012 20:13 Acrofales wrote:
SLJ: if most of the things said are town reads, then who do you currently suspect of being mafia? Sandro's last idea was Layabout, and you were supposed to post the case. Yet, you came in and said he was town (although you didn't unvote him). So who is mafia? Imho your behaviour is increasingly suspect. As a potential leader for town, you're doing a subpar job. So is greymist, btw.

On March 24 2012 04:59 Mattchew wrote:
EBWOP: i meant to add in that i don't like lynching someone that i agree with that heavily day 1. i would like to see more from layabout

On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.

I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?

Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him.

On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:


You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.

On March 25 2012 03:31 Acrofales wrote:
MrZentor, you're posting a cipher, and will later give us a magical key that will read whatever the hell you like? It is almost as transparent as WBG's RNG vote. Hey guys, if I F5 the RNG often enough it'll tell me to lynch myself, trololololol!

On March 25 2012 03:55 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. I'll start with my top scum targets of yesterday:

Mattchew
His posts last night actually sound to me like town, despite his trolling of me. Btw, I checked and my count was fairly right, despite being drunk. You didn't unvote your prior vote, so technically you were still voting for Oberyn. Not that it matters.

Reasons he is dropping on my scumometer: was trying to make sense of the clusterfuck of a lynch and seemed to be honestly concerned about the lynch target. I am neutral on his defense of Layabout, because it is really easy for mafia to defend a townie at the last minute: they know he's town and posting something in his favour is easy as hell.

I also like his final vote on Evantrees and regret my choice to try to get a lynch on Nicolas going just before I went to bed: that vote was wasted, and if I had chosen Evantrees, there's a good chance we would have lynched his useless ass, instead of Layabout who actually posted something useful from time to time.

VERDICT: suspicious, but no longer prime suspect (see below).

Gumshoe
Posted absolutely nothing during all of yesterday, but already had his vote on Layabout from the very start! It would be so fucking easy for mafia to organize a bandwagon and tell gumshoe to shut up, because he was for some reason flying completely under the radar. WTF. In fact, why the hell did we not lynch gumshoe yesterday? GRAFADSFADSAFGDFGA.

VERDICT: SCUM

Zealos
Was entirely absent all of yesterday. No change in opinion one way or the other.

VERDICT: suspicious.

Now for those who recently appeared on my radar.

Greymist: it is impossible to not take Greymist into account.
The problem I have with the case against Greymist is that it is almost exclusively built on derps misunderstanding sarcasm. This seems almost too easy for Mafia to jump on. I am therefore going to suggest a novel theory: Greymist is just as innocent as Layabout.
I guess that sorta nullifies my earlier post about MrZentor, because it cannot be that Greymist is innocent and MrZentor is trying to protect his scumbuddy Greymist. I previously had town reads on MrZentor and the only blip was his vote for Layabout. While I still think his reason for jumping on Layabout was bad, it's probably not a scumtell.

VERDICT: Greymist and MrZentor -- town.

SLJ:
Started the case against Layabout on wishywashy reasons. They then couldn't be bothered to hop off layabout when he was in danger, and are blaming sheeples for lynching him. This is either TERRIBLE town or TERRIBLE scum. Both seem highly out of character. My vote is actually to vig shot them and put Syllo at the very least out of his misery.

VERDICT: Suspicious (together with Alderan rapidly approaching Mattchew for 2nd place on the scumometer standings), but maybe just doesn't actually want to play the game and can't be fucked.

Alderan and Risen:

VERDICT: sheeples. Risen's posts today and yesterday seem okay, if replete with horrible analysis. Alderan was slightly dodgy to start with and his vote for Layabout did not improve my opinion for him. Risen is probably town and Alderan is competing with SLJ for the third place on the scumometer.

On March 25 2012 05:18 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I checked WBG's filter. I forgot the bit where WBG said he checked Mattchew. I am going to say it is completely and utterly stupid to suggest we can trust WBG based on this.

WBG says Mattchew is town
WBG says the 5th letter from the right in his role name is an A (pulling this out of my ass)
Mattchew says "holy fuck that's right"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be town? Trolololololololol DERP
WBG must be trustworthy? Trololololololololol DERP

Now alternatively Mattchew says "trolololol liar"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be scum? Trololololol DERP (btw, I'm not saying he's town, just that it doesn't work in this logic)
WBG must be untrustworthy? Hell yes (but anybody using his brain already knew this)

SLJ: what the hell were you hoping to learn from this? You're a veteran player and basically trolling atm. If you're trying to overtake Gumshoe for the dumbest scum in the game you're doing a pretty good job.

On March 23 2012 20:46 Mattchew wrote:
wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town

On March 25 2012 06:50 Acrofales wrote:
Seeing as nothing of note is happening at the moment and we're all waiting for WBG to be chucked out the moon door (PLEASE CURU, DO IT!!!). I have a question for WBG (yes, I want to be trolled).

WBG: why are 3/4 of your posts obsessed with killing Greymist or asserting that he is scum?

On March 25 2012 07:04 Acrofales wrote:
Dude, you've been calling for a vig hit on me all day. Please please please tell me you're not dumb enough to shoot one of the few active town players here.

On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.

Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy.

On March 22 2012 02:23 Acrofales wrote:


What you bolded was basically a follow-up to my question before the game started:


As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway.

That said, Matthew, why did you vote for me? Chaoser already had the random vote on me. The 2nd one was just mean. That vote has been the entire contribution to this game, with no explanation or text (except for a lololololol, which is even less useful).

On March 22 2012 05:34 Acrofales wrote:

Because I'm town. How about you?

On March 22 2012 06:21 Acrofales wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out what case that is. I have already said twice now why I overreacted at first. Although I am starting to think my reaction was the right one. You're clearly not adding anything: you choose to ignore the two posts I made in defense of my overreaction, and now mention some case against me. Post your case clearly and properly and I will respond to you, but at the moment you just seem to be trolling me.

On March 22 2012 23:39 Acrofales wrote:
Why we should lynch Mattchew:

First off, he starts building an alibi with a case made of air. I understand the pressure vote, but his follow-up was lackluster:

I understand that this is his character, but it is a very useless accusation. You assume I'm scum, therefore everybody who defends me must also be scum.

His main reason for calling me scum is:

The meta-comparison is a completely moot point, as had been pointed out by a number of people. So you were basically tunneling on me, and the reasons given are flimsy at best.

Secondly, his defense when other people start questioning his motives:
+ Show Spoiler [Reply to Zentor] +
He does not answer MrZentor's questions or doubts, but instead deflects them and builds a straw man argument about whether or not he voted. This deflection is successful, because the rest of the entire page of discussion is about whether or not he actually voted: he STILL has not answered MrZentor's questions.

+ Show Spoiler [Reply to Chaoser] +

More deflection without actually giving his opinion (except that the Acro-Mattchew controversy is the only useful thing in the thread to that point, which I disagree with).

Third, and final point: he is really trying to use meta-arguments to make himself look good in the discussion between him and DoYouHas. This is basically just useless fluff which serves only as a meta-defense as "look, I'm not a screwup noob". Okay, lets say I buy that. That leaves you being scum as the only explanation for you building a case out of air and avoiding any other meaningful discussion.



Newest info: his last post is actually something of substance, but I'm suspicious of him anyway. It might just be him realizing his gambit is failing and posting something townie. Specifically his sudden change to me being town

On March 23 2012 03:47 Acrofales wrote:

Most useless "I'm saying I'm not, but secretly am still lurking"-post I have seen in this thread. I think you might be beating out Evantrees for king of the lurks. Remember that in the Game of Thrones kings tend to lose their heads.

On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.

Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy.

On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.

Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.

##vote: Mattchew

On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway.

On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:

oh so your his scum teammate?

On March 22 2012 05:43 DoYouHas wrote:
Interesting MrZentor. Why do you lean town for Acro? Is it because you think Matt is likely scum and they are opposed to each other? Or have Acro's more recent posts been townie in your eyes? If so, what in them, specifically, strikes you as townie? I want you to expand your reasoning on why you consider Acro innocent.

After that, I would like to hear your take on Gumshoe and those of us attacking him.

On March 22 2012 02:23 Acrofales wrote:


What you bolded was basically a follow-up to my question before the game started:


As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway.

That said, Matthew, why did you vote for me? Chaoser already had the random vote on me. The 2nd one was just mean. That vote has been the entire contribution to this game, with no explanation or text (except for a lololololol, which is even less useful).

On March 22 2012 03:08 Acrofales wrote:


My reason for not going after Mattchew (or Chaoser for that matter) is precisely because I have since realised it's a random vote to troll me and get a reaction. I think he got quite the reaction, so it succeeded rather well. It also got lots of other people talking, which is a double plus! I am still interested to know why he voted for me, but I am smart enough to know that that is not a reason to suspect him of being mafia off the bat. In fact, it's not enough for me to decide either way.

YOU, however, have done nothing but spread misinformation with your posts. You spend three entire posts (not short either) on Littlefinger:
+ Show Spoiler +
in which you claim not to have read the D1 post properly, but you might equally well be trying to confuse any productive discussion happening in the thread. On top of that you ask about the mayor election, which even I had gathered does not happen unless Curu says it does: more misinformation and confusion to be cleared up, rather than spending time on useful stuff.

You end the last post with a request to talk about policy, but instead, as Oberyn put it nicely:


And now, to top it all off, you decide that I am scummy for backing down from a fight with someone I have no information about one way or the other. I'm inclined to call that an attempt at getting me bandwagoned. On top of that, you ask for me to roleclaim, which serves no point whatsoever, because nobody has any reason to believe me one way or the other this early in the game. So no, I won't play your scummy games.

On March 23 2012 21:11 Mattchew wrote:
lol coming from littlefinger i dont suspect it will hold much weight

On March 23 2012 20:00 Acrofales wrote:
Risen: wtf did you do to this thread. You posted an entire page of posts with largely useless analysis and ended up sheeping the Mattchew vote. While I agree with your final choice, your reasoning is completely out of wack. In your giant walls of text, you say I am more suspect than Mattchew, yet you vote for him. Why?

There seems a lot of too-dumb-to-be-mafia going around and I think it would be way too easy to hide in this crap as mafia. We should stop using that as an excuse for anybody. I know that I have used it, but I don't give a crap at this point, the thread is getting so full of stupid, useless fake analysis stuff that I am almost at the point of saying we should policy lynch Sinensis, Risen, DoYouHas or risk.nuke for posting such inane stuff. I am new here and even I can see that the cases you post are flinterthin. Do you even think before you post, or are you really just trying to fill your filter with something that seems useful, but really isn't.

Talking about lynching. We have 13 hours left and I think it's about time to start making a decision and stop casting votes in senseless directions. Luckily my senseless direction 15 minutes into the game seems to be a pretty good guess and we should lynch Mattchew, based on my earlier stated case. Anybody have a better idea?

On March 23 2012 06:02 Risen wrote:
EBWOP for acro analysis



Hey look, it's the miraculous post that will change acro's mind.

On March 23 2012 13:45 Risen wrote:
Yeah sorry about that, wasn't thinking entirely. The rest of my analysis and anything further will be compiled into spoilers. Having said this, I'm going to place my vote on mattchew and suggest a vig hit on acro for now. This is by no means my final position. Mattchew just screams scum to me right now. Also, a different possible vig hit imo is Lyter, since all he is doing is lurking. Nicolas is out of the game, btw. Pretty clear to me that anyone who was scum wouldn't find the game boring, ergo he's almost confirmed town to me.

Going to sleep or something soon. Might pop back in later if I'm still awake. I'll be on in the morning, though for sure.

##vote Mattchew

On March 23 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote:
Hey Risen, once again you (like so many others) post vague things about people as if they have meaning. When you say something like "what he has posted is quality in my opinion" why don't you actually point out what is quality and why instead of just calling it quality.

btw i doubt that i am focusing on one guy when I never voted him, have made a case on someone else, and actually voted for a third person

On March 25 2012 07:19 Risen wrote:


I stand by the layabout lynch, and as I said earlier hopefully he learns from his mistake. He could make the same play in a future mafia and I'd still lynch him.

I'm not a roleblocker, so boo.

On March 23 2012 13:45 Risen wrote:
Yeah sorry about that, wasn't thinking entirely. The rest of my analysis and anything further will be compiled into spoilers. Having said this, I'm going to place my vote on mattchew and suggest a vig hit on acro for now. This is by no means my final position. Mattchew just screams scum to me right now. Also, a different possible vig hit imo is Lyter, since all he is doing is lurking. Nicolas is out of the game, btw. Pretty clear to me that anyone who was scum wouldn't find the game boring, ergo he's almost confirmed town to me.

Going to sleep or something soon. Might pop back in later if I'm still awake. I'll be on in the morning, though for sure.

##vote Mattchew

On March 23 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote:
Hey Risen, once again you (like so many others) post vague things about people as if they have meaning. When you say something like "what he has posted is quality in my opinion" why don't you actually point out what is quality and why instead of just calling it quality.

btw i doubt that i am focusing on one guy when I never voted him, have made a case on someone else, and actually voted for a third person

On March 25 2012 08:42 Acrofales wrote:
I can't believe he made me reply to all that dross in a rush and isn't even around to read it. I hate him with a vengeance and promise to policy-lynch him from now on in any game we play in together.

On March 25 2012 06:50 Acrofales wrote:
Seeing as nothing of note is happening at the moment and we're all waiting for WBG to be chucked out the moon door (PLEASE CURU, DO IT!!!). I have a question for WBG (yes, I want to be trolled).

WBG: why are 3/4 of your posts obsessed with killing Greymist or asserting that he is scum?

On March 26 2012 03:44 Acrofales wrote:
Chaoser. I agree with your possible cases. You also drew them a lot prettier than I did in my post against Risen's earlier case.

I just fail to see why mafia needs to be DT. Is there some strange mechanic in the game where mafia can't see other mafia? Mafia knows mafia, right?
So why does it matter whether risen is DT or not if he's mafia? If he's mafia, he knows I'm a townie. What I don't know is why anybody is paying any attention to him.



Actually, now that I think about it a bit more, I have a theory.

The way he jumped in just 2 hours before the deadline to blueclaim is exceedingly damning. If he's really blue this must be the worst possible timing. Additionally he uses WBG's drivel as an excuse insofar as he needed one.


How is this not a mafia setup?

If he really is a DT, he was just setting himself up to be offed by a mobster.
If, however, he is mafia, he knows he's not getting killed by his teammates. With his earlier pushes for me to get vig'd he suspected I would react. This just sets him up for his day 2 play of painting me as scum:
1. He has put me and him directly opposit each other.
2. He has announced his blue claim prior to it actually happening.

It also makes sense of a lot of his really crappy posting yesterday evening.

On March 23 2012 20:28 SamuelLJackson wrote:

I wasn't supposed to post anything and did not come in and say he was town. I only told sandroba that wbg has a point about layabout's tone not being what I expect from his mafia play, but he hasn't posted enough to go further than that. Out of the players we are more comfortable reading, we do not currently like chaoser and greymist. I scum hunt primarily by process of elimination, so a lot of my focus is on "confirming" townies.

There is absolutely nothing "suspect" about our behaviour, so while you have a point about us not putting in much effort yet, and I won't promise I will, you should focus your attention elsewhere.

On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time.

On March 22 2012 04:56 layabout wrote:
zealos do you intend to keep spamming up the thread?

gumshoe's response to Acro's situation was also weird and problematic. His first suggestion to Acro was to role claim. Now, had that been towards a more experienced player I would have less problems with but since it's to a newbie, there was a decently high chance acro might have actually claimed (as can be seen in the recent games where there have been day one role claims). Newbieness? The rest of his posts seem to suggest so but I will be keeping tabs on him as the game goes on.

On March 26 2012 04:22 Mattchew wrote:
can someone tell me why we would want to take a risk of lynching the guy who claims dt first?

for the most part it sounds like people are saying something along the lines of "i wouldn't do that as DT" or "he must be an idiot to do that as DT" or "This way of playing DT doesn't help town"

2 of these say nothing about alignment. playing stupid or different from how you would play it dont mean scum. and there are a ton of examples of townies playing in a not pro-town manner.

If we flip acro first and he flips scum or miller, we save the life of a townie and save a lynch.
if we flip acro first and he flips town, we get to see what happens to risen at night, and then lynch him.
if we flip risen first and he flips scum, we don't learn anything about acro BUT HURRAY WE LYNCH SCUM
if we flip risen first and hes town DT, we waste a lynch on a confirmable townie, and acro gets lynched the next day


I feel it is a lot safer to lynch acro first

On March 27 2012 01:36 Acrofales wrote:

GUMSHOE: WHERE ARE YOU? I THINK YOU'RE SCUM. What do you think about that?

On March 27 2012 02:37 Zealos wrote:
Being DT.

On March 27 2012 03:30 Acrofales wrote:

Yeah, I overreacted. Overall that seems to be the only part of day 1 where any useful information was gathered at all, with people like MrZentor, Zealos and SLJ chipping in to have their say.

Another difference is that Gumshoe is currently my second-most-favourite lynch after Risen. It'd be great to get more information for the day 3 lynch.

Just to be clear, you're still not off the hook and I find your reasoning today exceedingly suspicious. I just think there are better targets to focus on for the moment.

Even so, it can't really hurt to show how your reasoning is just really suspicious. At the very least it'll further the discussion and allow me to decide whether you're actually scum or not. Your reasoning is pretty much explained here:

You seem to have the four cases pretty clear. However you seem to be throwing away ALL other evidence. I haven't seen anybody make a case against me lately. The only evidence being taken into account seems to be Risen's DT check. Apparently, for you, a DT claim is automatically enough reason to disregard all other posts by said person, OR the one he claims on, and say that he should not be lynched because he DT claimed. Wow, if I ever play a mobster I will keep that in mind!

Now lets look at the rest of the evidence:
Risen
Risen has been playing exceedingly erratically. I initially had a town read on him (as you can see if you go through my posts), although I found his analysis exceedingly weak (once again, in my posts). He then suddenly panicked at WBG's supposed kill power + Show Spoiler [pointless WBG speculation] +.
Given his insistance that I was scum from almost the start of the game, this caused me to post the pages of refutals of his analysis, as I thought he had been crumbing vigilante, not DT. At this point I still believed him, although I was both angry enough and thought he was playing terribly enough that I should vote for him on basic principle (also in my night posts).

The next morning he roleclaimed DT in an exceedingly vague and dumb manner. He claimed DT without stating his actual role name, he never crumbed DT OR his rolename beforehand and he completely ignored any possibility of me being framed or a miller and continued throughout the morning to ignore any such possibilities.

In addition to his ballsup of a DT claim, his only somewhat useful contribution to this game has been to spam a full page of really bad analysis.

Acro
I am awesome and a contributing townie. Someone should make a proper case against me if they have one that is not based on all this WIFOM around Risen's DT check.

Now, given the evidence, we have to consider PROBABILITIES of each of the four cases and then things change drastically. We can lynch me, confirmed townie, based on a somewhat decent plot by a scumster (or, I'll grant him the inkling of doubt I don't really have: an incredibly shitty DT). Or we can lynch a mobster (with a tiny tiny chance that he is actually an incredibly shitty DT).

And that is why I think your reasoning is suspect. If there was no prior knowledge then you would be right, but you are reasoning as if the DT check is the only information you have.

To be completely honest, I have no clue what way you lean at the moment. Day 1 I could've sworn you were scum. Night 1 you seemed to be playing townie and Day 2 you're back to looking scummy. I can't read you at the moment, but given that I have two reads I am far more confident in I don't mind too much. If both Risen and Gumshoe flip red, then I am quite sure you are too.

On March 27 2012 01:54 chaoser wrote:
If you had to lynch three people right now, who would they be? Out of acro and risen, who would you lynch?

On March 27 2012 19:07 Acrofales wrote:


So let me get this straight. You are advocating a policy of lynching anybody who has a confirmed red check, regardless of ANY other evidence?

On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.

On March 27 2012 21:25 Acrofales wrote:

So, your plan is to ignore all other evidence, kill a townie tomorrow and enter night 4 with no mafia and two wasted days. Boy, I sure like your plan, Mr. Scumbag!

Can I ask a stupid question? If this holds for millers and framed people, why does it not hold for godfathers? If Risen had said I was confirmed town, would I be above all suspicion?
NO. Before starting to play, I read a game here, where a DT checked a godfather and he got lynched anyway, but I can't find it anymore (maybe one of the veterans remembers it). So why hold "red is dead" as a holy grail, when a green check is maintained as suspect?

On March 27 2012 00:37 chaoser wrote:
bump...come on guys, only 8 more hours till deadline and this thread is pretty dead. we can still talk about other stuff aside from risen. not everyone has spoken/taken a side either.

On March 29 2012 01:25 Acrofales wrote:

What happened to you stopping your lies until Curu clarified stuff?

Hazy on the details (veterans confirm please?), does a jailer get to know if his target is hit? If not, then trolololol scumtell.

On April 06 2012 04:09 Jitsu wrote:
Oh, also, I saw someone recently (think it was Risk.Nuke) bring up my soft medic claim.

I was hoping to WIFOM the Mattchew hit. Arco did a good job of drawing out Mattchew as the jailer. I was only a VT. I felt that, at that time, Mattchew was doing a decent job contributing (better then in previous games then I recall) and felt that his power as a Jailer would be better then my power as a VT, obviously. I got my call out on Xatalos in time, so I didn't see a downside, as he was my strongest read.

I was hoping to force the Mafia's hand in trying to hit me, since they wouldn't be sure if I was healing Mattchew, thus wasting a shot, and killing me, again, wasting a shot. They didn't take the bait, however.

On April 06 2012 04:09 Jitsu wrote:
Oh, also, I saw someone recently (think it was Risk.Nuke) bring up my soft medic claim.

I was hoping to WIFOM the Mattchew hit. Arco did a good job of drawing out Mattchew as the jailer. I was only a VT. I felt that, at that time, Mattchew was doing a decent job contributing (better then in previous games then I recall) and felt that his power as a Jailer would be better then my power as a VT, obviously. I got my call out on Xatalos in time, so I didn't see a downside, as he was my strongest read.

I was hoping to force the Mafia's hand in trying to hit me, since they wouldn't be sure if I was healing Mattchew, thus wasting a shot, and killing me, again, wasting a shot. They didn't take the bait, however.