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You people need to wake up and smell the coffee, look at this wagon on me, it's got the nisani/sinani twins, paperscraps and Grackaroni.
Now, you can thank me later, but I bring you someone who will actually flip scum.
kitaman27
Of all the things he's done this is the most telling one:
On March 19 2012 05:58 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 05:24 gonzaw wrote: Ehm, so what do you think about Foolishness rhymes? Do you think they are a legit post restriction or bullshit?
They are rather Curious. Another game comes to Mind. To be Frank, I'm Always suspicious of people WhO hope to mislead us with Major distractions such as these. Food5
I hope you notice that he's pointing out exactly the same thing as I did, that foolishness was feigning a posting restriction. The difference being in that I actually drew a conclusion from it, while kitaman just flutters around the issue, really making it nothing more than just a contentless post.
If foolishness was scum, this makes sense as Kita would not want to draw too much attention, but someone would definitely call him out on it at some point, not having noticed the similarities. Even if I was wrong and foolishness was town, Kita would most certainly not want to call him out too hard because he'd be fearing the consequences of such an action.
Softly pointing it out and never again mentioning it is only optimal play for scum-kita.
Here:
On March 19 2012 07:20 kitaman27 wrote:Just read through blazing and Velinath's filters. Looking at his zelblade analysis, I scratch my head and wonder if a scum player could really come up with a case that crazy. I'm confused by his insitance that cyber is scum based on his lack of posts, but his anti-terrorist stance is more than enough to win me back over. Playing with him as scum in Resistance, he was pretty aggressive and he openly pushed his objectives. This was the only post that set off any alarms, I'd be interested in hearing his reasoning for discreditting Gonzaw. Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: Anybody who thinks seriously about electing Gonzaw should take some time to seriously consider what they're doing with their lives. Vel's posts have been pretty reasonable. Nothing groundbreaking, but I like his comment about wanting to control the outed third party for his kp, even if its a bad idea. He is pretty open with sharing his opinion and seems to get annoyed by things from a town midframe. I can't say I favor one player over the other, which isn't very helpful being the deciding vote, but I'll go with Velinath.
I removed a picture from that post to keep it readable.
Notice once again the soft and indecisive tone from kitaman. He really does not want to be a major factor in the game. He basically writes this post to reach no conclusion while quietly pushing the Velinath candidate. I'm not sure on Velinath's alignment yet, but I am completely 100% certain that Blazinghand was town, which is why I voted him into office.
On March 21 2012 02:58 kitaman27 wrote:In regards to the Black Market, I'd suggest reading through the relevant posts from Insane 2. Each faction had to acquire a certain amount of currency to purchase a game breaking ability. Be careful when giving a certain amount of money to a certain faction. Additionally, does the black market use a quicktopic? As the mafia and sleeper cell leader probably have access, there is no reason for the town to not be able to read what is going on periodically as well. Being able to identify certain posting habits may lead us to their identities. Blazinghand getting shot over Velinath somewhat confuses me. Why is the runner up getting shot, rather than the player who has access to distributing pro-town powers among the members of town? The only reason I can think of Kenpachi having a GMarshal fake claim would be if he is the third party planar dragon. If that is the case, I don't think he should be today's lynch as we already used yesterday to eliminate a third party player. MidnightGladius, why are you claiming vanilla town day one? Was it simply an attempt to be elected? I'll mention my annoyance at the no flip again because I like to complain. Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 22:30 Sbrubbles wrote:On March 19 2012 11:49 Velinath wrote: I know which alias buys and sells stuff, but I don't know who those people are in the thread
I believe revealing how the market is conducted would merit a modkill. At the very least it's a grey area that I don't want to talk about unless I got direct confirmation that I could. @Veli, can you tell us what items are for sale? There's reason to suspect there are 5 (well, now 4) portal guns around, which (if we believe Drazerk) show what items a person has. If someone is found to have one item from this list, it would be a good lead for town. Could you explain what you mean here Sbrubbles? Also, who are you suspicious of right now, besides kenpachi? A lot of your focus this game is on mechanics, rather than scum hunting. I'm considering the following people for lynch today: Mr. WigglesShow nested quote +On March 17 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote: 3) I used an item on Wiggles and know he is not the same as me which makes me hesitant for anyone to vote for him without an excellent argument Draz flat out claims that Wiggles has a different alignment as him and Wiggles completely ignores this. I know from my perspective, that if someone tells the thread that I'm scum or third party that I'm going to be refuting the claim 100% and going hard after him. When posting his reasoning for voting, he hardly even references draz's bizzare claim. In fact, at one point, he even starts to back off the lynch: Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 04:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, I forgot I wanted to write in that post, but it might not be the best idea to lynch Drazerk anymore after his claim. Are you really willing to give a pass to a player who essentially claims they used an item to prove that you are scum? You argue that a kp might be better, but that is one less kp the mafia have to worry about and if no one shoots him or draz survives the hit, then we get to waste another day dealing with him. You buy his rage core claim after he claims to use an investigative item on you making you look bad? In addition, you never suggest an alternative for the lynch. When sharing his few reads that he does provide, he always gives reasons that make a player look good and bad, rather than committing strongly one way or another. The strongest read he does provide is a null read. Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 04:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote: gonzaw, so far I think that you're asking a lot of questions and posting actively, which is good. However, you're somewhat inundating the thread with them, and that means that a lot of them end up unanswered or forgotten. Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 06:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote: On Zephird:
I don't like his early posting, as it mostly consists of spam and commentary. After that, though, it actually picks up a fair bit. Rather than openly share his opinion, he has to be questioned. Today he hasn't provided any suggestions for the day two lynch. BluelightzThe cases Bluelightz have provided us are essentially summaries, rather than analysis. He mentions that sinani is lurking, and quotes all three of cwave's posts, but doesn't explain why these things make them scum. In the town games I've read through, he is just as spammy, but at least he is willing to openly share his opinion. Today he wants to lynch sinani who is apparently already marked for death and kenpachi for not explaining his role (which he states is not allowed). How can kenpachi be his number one lynch candidate if he hasn't even read through his filter? As far as his opinions, they completely lack resolve. He likes wiggles for mayor, but switches off as soon draz paints him in bad light. He argues that draz is a threat to the town, but doesn't even vote for him in the end. blubbdavidI would be less willing to lynch him than the above two, but I thought he was worth mentioning anyway. Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote: Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town Why are you trying to use anti-town behavior to enforce the idea that you are town? Are you proud of the fact that you haven't done anything but spam the thread? I know you are somewhat competent based on your play in Newbie V, so why have all your posts been a bunch of one liners without sharing your opinions?
Continuing into day 2, kita is doing his best "I don't matter" impression. But hey, town expects him to actually push lynches today, because that's the pro-town thing to do. So how can kita keep having no influence over the thread while maintaining the illusion he's actually posting soemthing of value?
Simple, just post a weak analysis on three random players. If I'm right and kita flips scum it doesn't even clear any of them because Kita's follow-up to this push has been so weak, so flailing, that there has never been any risk of any of them being lynched. And kita is hardly pushing his reads.
In conclusion, I think kitaman is basically doing everything he can to remain useless in the game while appearing to be doing some work of any kind of value.
My vote is going for kitaman27 today, yours should too.
##Vote kitaman27
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Alright. I have read through bluelightz filter in student, but I dont think its really useful since it was his first game, quite long ago, and he was a rather late replacement.
What I find off about bluelightz is a couple of things. 1) His inactivity - lurklurk, but has time to post in another game (someone mentioned this I think?) His activity seemed okyish day 1, but it has steadily declined. Not to mention all he has done is push kenpachi, sinani and drazerk. All easy targerts.
2) This was what made me really suspicious. Kita calls him out for promising one of those lists he always makes - stating that he is taking a long time to do so. What is his response? He posts this:
On March 21 2012 15:31 Bluelightz wrote: Fuck, answering to kita
Town: Paper - Not really active but points out alot of stuff and shares his reads.
Grackaroni - Active, Contributes to the discussion, Town.
Scum:
Kenpachi - For reasons in my so called "case"
Dirk - As everybody has explained
Null:
Everyone else
People on my scum list I have no problem to lynch. I have a few problems with this.
Firstly, why promise something than forget about it immediatedly? Next, why rush to post something for the sake of pleasing someone (kita)? This list is obviously extremely rushed, and not well prepared, and this really suggests to me that you are making a list for the sake of making a list, doing to only to follow your "town meta". Lastly, I dont care that this is rushed, but anyone can clearly see the lack of effort this list has. He lists two players as town, two as scum, and "everyone else" as null. I see that he constantly calls everyone null, but what really strikes me is the complete lack of effort put into making this list. Look at this from Mr.Wiggles MM2: + Show Spoiler +I'm here guys,
I think I'll go into starting my list now,
Jackal58 - Leaning Scum - He post's nothing of worth and is useless.
Paperscraps - Null - His response to my case well.... wasn't THAT good, but im gonna unvote him for now.
Probulous - Leaning Town - Has posted much content and is being active and contributing to the discussion
Snarfs - Leaning Town - He is looking townie to me but, he could easily flip scum though.
rgTheSchworz - Leaning Third Party Maybe - This post is interesting because IF he is the SK he is trying to make people thinking he's not the SK
Misder - Null - He didnt explain his lists, but he did hel;pl move discussion so, Null.
Pandain - Leaning Town - He has been acting fairly townish.
Palmar - Null - He has been posting a lot of one liners, but he could be town.
Sandroba - Null - Same as Palmar
TheToast - Null - He is looking fairly townish, but he could easily be scum.....
Adam4167 - Leaning Town - He is actively contributing and providing opinions.
A Killer Cuppa Tea - Leaning Town - He does look townish, but he has to step up and be more active & contribute.
deconduo - Null - As paper said he overreacted to paper's vote, but he could be town.
One can clearly see the difference. Here, he clearly takes the time to post his thoughts clearly (well its one line but still) on each and every player. Compare this to what he does this game - he bothers to list only 4 people. This seems really out of character to me. I could also pick a few more things, lack of colour codes, etc., but this really demostrates the lack of effort bluelightz put into his list, and generally looking over his filter you can see this being prevelant throughout the entire game.
Overall, what makes me really suspicious is that rushed list. It suggests to me a couple of things, namely being: i) The fact that he rushed it out to simply please kita - why do it as town? I know I would take the time to make a proper list if I was going to, maybe say something like "wait abit im constructing it", not post a list for the sake of it. Seems like hes trying to please kita. I dont think town would do something like this. ii) Lack of effort - He seems to not want to put in effort. His filter shows that he has contributed nothing to town, with the exception of a few sheep votes, and of course that horrible pretty bad kenpachi case. Before someone states that bluelightz is "bad" or something along those lines - Go look at his filter in Mr.Wiggles MM2 and come back again - he clearly puts in effort and is actively trying to scumhunt. I see very little of this this game, and the overall lack of effort suggests scum to me.
3) His wiggles vote rubs me the wrong way too. I personally didnt see wiggles as trustworthy at the start of day one, and it seems that the reason he believes wiggles to be town enough to vote for him (note that wiggles himself has not actually asked to be voted) is because of this.
Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 08:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Though I question why you'd choose to shoot less than an hour into day 1, we just got a bunch of information from that lynch. We now know there's three sleeper cell members, so that's a modconfirmed scum number we can work with.
So is that actually the reason you shot him Drazerk? I don't see why you'd think that about VE as compared to anyone else, and why you'd shoot him without posting. Would mafia ask this question? I think that Wiggles is town based on that he is posting like not being coordinated with other people.
Note that this is after a sleeper has flipped. Also he backtracks on his vote not because someone pointed out this gap in logic, but because of drazerk's agurment here:
Wiggles is someone who should never win the election for several reasons
1) If he is scum we are screwed and there is no coming back 2) If he is town and it turns bad we are also screwed 3) I used an item on Wiggles and know he is not the same as me which makes me hesitant for anyone to vote for him without an excellent argument
This had been a reply to bluelightz's previous post pushing for wiggles to be elected. Notice how bluelightz decides to quickly backtrack, yet doesnt ask about the "not the same as me" part, since it was a pretty crucial point, since at that point drazerk had not claimed yet, and him not taking a step back to question this says quite a bit. Which would mean that he felt the first two points were valid. Point 1 is bad, considering that bluelightz had enough trust in him to actually vote for him. Point 2 is easily fearmongering, and I dont think he would just backtrack so quickly based on it alone. Which makes me feel that bluelightz might have been trying to get his scumbuddy elected - something similar to "flinging shit and seeing what sticks".
4) Another minor thing is the "fuck" that he said when kita asked about his missing list. I went through a few filters, and I havent seen a single vulgarity in the entire chunk. Even when TheToast insults him rather badly in Mr.Wiggles MM2 (attached here for your refrence) + Show Spoiler +Oh and Bluelightz, I'm curious, have you ever won a game as town? Like seriously, I think there's such a thing as the Bluelightz curse. Any town unlucky enough to get Bluelightz on their side loses the game. What do you think? Nice ring to it right? The curse of the Bluelightz that sounds good too. Seriously, how fail are you? I don't expect you to respond since the only things you post about are when you are going to school or work like this is flippin' twitter. Can't forget the occasional completely random person that you call out as scum. It's true that you will eventually land on scum, only after lynching the entire town. Way to go buddy..
Actually the whole lot of you are pretty fail. Didn't you all wonder why you are the ones left alive? Snarfs I don't think you had a single good read this whole game. Except for Sandro, but he pretty much put in zero effort this game; that's why we had him killed. And lol how easily all of you bought that "Calling it now Sandro and Pandain scum team" shenanigans. How obvious was that lol?
There's a reason why we lynched Palmar when we did and left the rest of you alive, he was the only one making any sense. Snarfies lol at your support of Adam. There was not one good shred of evidence against him. And you led Probulous lead your right into that. HA! And LOL at the Paper thing. He was like the most confirmed town this whole game, and you guys were all FOSing him.
What is his response to this?
+ Show Spoiler +I won purgatory Nailed the angels (Nailed RoL d1 but didnt push lol, nailed jackal day 3, nailed grackaroni all game but never got him lynched )
Oh and the most interesting thing about me is that I NEVER EVER EVER got lynched in my whole mafia life Also seriously insulting me -_- I'm never playing with you again + Show Spoiler +Actually no I meant that.
Considering that that post was downright rude and pretty damm insulting, bluelightz first reaction is to laugh it off, before starting to get a little angry at it, yet he manages to keep it down without any sort of notable reaction. Really, this single "fuck" here makes me slightly suspicious. Maybe im reading too much into it, but doesnt it seem like hes annoyed that he, as scum, managed to make such a slipup? Considering that hes usually pretty jovial and relaxed.. this feels really out of character to me.
Hopefully I have explained clear enough why I feel that bluelightz is scum. Hopefully people actually read it too, since it would seem that people have a habit of skipping over my posts -.-
I have a few other slight suspisions, but im going to wait for tomorrow to push them, since we already have what I feel are two good candidates. Dirk Hardpec isnt looking too good right now either, but I have a stronger read on bluelightz, which is why I am pushing him now.
##vote: Bluelightz
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Wow I didnt realise how long that was... was trying my best to keep it short and sweet. Guess I failed at that. D:
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Dirk, I dont agree with your read on kitaman and I need to reread his filter after doing some work to come to a better conclusion.
What I would like to know is what you think of bluelightz. Considering that hes on the chopping block together with you, shouldnt you have some actual thoughts on him?
Also the fact that you have been OMGUSing pretty hard is making me suspicious of you. First on Foolishness, whose case was weak and based off thin air, and probably more of a joke if your really are smurfing, and next on grackoni who wanted to shoot you. Besides your claim of driving discussion is pretty lolzy especially if you are town, since in that case most of the discussion you are supposedly driving is in the wrong way. I dont think you are a half bad shot, and find your omgus pretty bad.
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Ill be away from the thread for abit - need to do some work and than go have dinner. If anyone has any questions just shoot and ill respond when I get back.
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On March 21 2012 18:38 zelblade wrote: Dirk, I dont agree with your read on kitaman and I need to reread his filter after doing some work to come to a better conclusion.
What I would like to know is what you think of bluelightz. Considering that hes on the chopping block together with you, shouldnt you have some actual thoughts on him?
Also the fact that you have been OMGUSing pretty hard is making me suspicious of you. First on Foolishness, whose case was weak and based off thin air, and probably more of a joke if your really are smurfing, and next on grackoni who wanted to shoot you. Besides your claim of driving discussion is pretty lolzy especially if you are town, since in that case most of the discussion you are supposedly driving is in the wrong way. I dont think you are a half bad shot, and find your omgus pretty bad.
I don't think Bluelightz is scum. I think he's an easy target that gets pushed into a position to be lynched every game because he is always very vague and irrational in his play. But he seems to be posting without fear, so that at least is pretty townie.
And if you need to lynch a townie to learn that attacking people who attack you for no reason is not a scumtell, be my guest. What do you expect me to do when one of the strongest town players on TL mafia hides behind a posting restriction, and then decides to attack me with nothing to back it up? Do you think I should not explain why he's scum because of it because I should be afraid of OMGUS-ing?
I don't actually care if people voted me or not. If I think someone does something that's not justifiable, I will call them out, even at the risk of looking like I'm just attacking whoever attacks me. I mostly put the speech up on Grackaroni this night to scare him away from shooting me, as I have a decent role that can be very helpful. I'm not sure on Grack's alignment, depending on if his claim that he wanted to shoot me and couldn't is true or false.
At this point I'm an easy excuse for mafia/third party to kill because alot of people want my head. I'm not about to hang quietly today, even if everyone is a giant derp and actually lynches me, at least my flip will provide heated arguments and mafia is going to have to push really hard for it. I'm not going to die easy, so bring it on scum.
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@Jayjay, you look pretty townish to me, but you understand that you are stretching the credibility people give you? First you say Sinani206 will die, you just can't tell when, but therefore we should ignore him. Then you come and claim Dirks abilitities look townish. So you just took two of the more favoured lynch candidates off the chopping block, and there is no way for us to verify your claims.
@Maverick
On March 21 2012 11:08 Maverick32x wrote: I may be setting myself up here.. but my role PM talks about Glados as someone I should get rid of... kind of like a background story... not a 'main objective'....is it possible that people like Paperscraps who are making a big deal out of this.... are people who didn't get similar PM's? (ie: scum/3rd party?)
Are you sure you are reading it correctly? I actually understood some flavor wrong in my Role PM, which could have had an interesting effect on my voting patterns. However, after asking back to GreyMist, he explained that it was just flavor. So perhaps you want to make sure with the hosts you understood it right.
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I have been reading through bluelightz filter from the Werewolves 2 game, where he was town. While he was still goofing around and his analysis was not always the best, he put some real effort in that game.
When I compare it with this game he lacks that kind of effort. The "Analysis" on Kenpachi is just tons of quotes. Most of his posts are questions and one-liners that don't really add anything to the game. His list is hurried. His activity as gone back drastically since the 18th. Also, Both his case on kenpachi and the list just look as if they were made to please town.
He jumps target on D1 saying that Drazerk is the best lynch, then votes Sinani because he lurked, not explaining why Drazerk should not be dangerous anymore. Later he writes that Drazerk is a good lynch. It is also unclear why he picked Sinani from all the lurkers. There were so many on D1, he never really explained why he wanted him.
All this leads me to believe that he is scum.
##Vote: Bluelightz
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Sorry I've been away guys, been entertaining American cousins. Apparently the London Eye is interesting, though I don't see the appeal of a one-hour ferris wheel...
On March 21 2012 15:14 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 15:13 Grackaroni wrote:On March 21 2012 15:11 kitaman27 wrote: How does your role work, you just get a day vig for every 2 lemons that are given to you?
That doesn't sound like a town role. I'm pretty sure that multiple people have a role like this involving lemons. Hassybaby for example immediately knew I wanted the lemons for a vig shot. So how does it work? 2 lemons = day vig shot? Hassy, what would you be able to do if I gave you my lemon instead?
Lemons do nothing for me. I was just pointing out that in Portal 2, Cave Johnson was talking about getting his scientists to make a lemon grenade. Who knew you could actually do that...
Still reading btw.
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On March 21 2012 19:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 18:38 zelblade wrote: Dirk, I dont agree with your read on kitaman and I need to reread his filter after doing some work to come to a better conclusion.
What I would like to know is what you think of bluelightz. Considering that hes on the chopping block together with you, shouldnt you have some actual thoughts on him?
Also the fact that you have been OMGUSing pretty hard is making me suspicious of you. First on Foolishness, whose case was weak and based off thin air, and probably more of a joke if your really are smurfing, and next on grackoni who wanted to shoot you. Besides your claim of driving discussion is pretty lolzy especially if you are town, since in that case most of the discussion you are supposedly driving is in the wrong way. I dont think you are a half bad shot, and find your omgus pretty bad. I don't think Bluelightz is scum. I think he's an easy target that gets pushed into a position to be lynched every game because he is always very vague and irrational in his play. But he seems to be posting without fear, so that at least is pretty townie. And if you need to lynch a townie to learn that attacking people who attack you for no reason is not a scumtell, be my guest. What do you expect me to do when one of the strongest town players on TL mafia hides behind a posting restriction, and then decides to attack me with nothing to back it up? Do you think I should not explain why he's scum because of it because I should be afraid of OMGUS-ing? I don't actually care if people voted me or not. If I think someone does something that's not justifiable, I will call them out, even at the risk of looking like I'm just attacking whoever attacks me. I mostly put the speech up on Grackaroni this night to scare him away from shooting me, as I have a decent role that can be very helpful. I'm not sure on Grack's alignment, depending on if his claim that he wanted to shoot me and couldn't is true or false. At this point I'm an easy excuse for mafia/third party to kill because alot of people want my head. I'm not about to hang quietly today, even if everyone is a giant derp and actually lynches me, at least my flip will provide heated arguments and mafia is going to have to push really hard for it. I'm not going to die easy, so bring it on scum.
So you dont find bluelightz's play different from his other games? I personally dont think posting without fear is that good of a towntell, but I guess that we could disagree with that.
I personally think that whilst your OMGUS on Foolishness was somewhat justified considering that quite a few people bandwagoned you because of his weak case, I didnt really like your push againt grackoni, but I guess im going to trust JJ54's check (since I have a town read on him) and give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
One thing that I do agree on though is that your wagon today is filled with a lot of scummy people.
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Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff.
The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch.
What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town?
About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment.
I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me.
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So I guess that explains some things...
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I'll pretend I didn't see that if you don't call yourself confirmed town. I'll see if I can post my complete thoughts on ghost_403 before I go to school.
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Well this is pretty interesting :O
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I'm not surprised. I had it narrowed down to Kurumi or Palmar just based off the time-zones that the posts were coming in at, and the English was probably too good for Kurumi (no offense).
I still felt as though your first post was waffly, but as long as you're putting content in the thread, then we're gravy.
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Ok, I'm not going to have time to completely finish this, but this is what I wrote. It's pretty straight-forward, so you should be able to see the same things, just read his filter. I think ghost_403 is likely scum. A couple other people pointed him out in the thread, and I noticed the same things when I read his filter.
The first thing I notice right off the bat, is that he's the one who started the silliness about Wheatley changing win conditions. On March 18 2012 00:55 ghost_403 wrote: Just my thoughts on the Wheatly role:
I'm not ever going to trust Wheatly. IIRC, Wheatly screws over Chell in Portal 2 by taking control of Aperture, despite his best intentions. I can see this going the same way. Wheatly begins the game by helping the town, then gets a new wincon where he has to kill us all or something. The reason this is scummy, is because it has no basis in the game, and is completely based on external flavour. So, it serves only to:
1)Spread distrust 2)Cause pointless discussion and distract from the game 3) Be pointless
Then he flip-flops on his reads. I'll try to post more when I get back. =/
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On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote: going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.
good night...
I am about to read Nisani's filter after my midnight snack. I'll gift you one in return: Lanaia, this filter is empty of anything substantial.
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Agh, the problem is that bluelightz is a good aim for now, but there are many posters who are far worse than him and still somehow fly under the radar. If bluelightz is able to make a good defence, then I may focus on one of the lurkers. Wait, the same happened already in Kaller. Still...
And JJ shooting someone who just didn't want to die also happened in Kaller o_O
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