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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 12 2012 21:51 GMT
#381
I am looking at it this way:

If Jackal is Town and we leave him alive he basically has to shoot. And the probability is very high that he hits a Townie. So in this case we have dead Town Jackal, dead Town someone else, and a dead lynch target. No one to me looks obvious scum enough to warrant switching the lynch like this.

If Jackal is Town and we lynch him then we've lynched a Townie day 1. We end up with a net of dead Town Jackal and lose a substitute dead lynch target.

If Jackal is scum then yay.

I don't feel like there is another candidate I want to lynch bad enough to take the tradeoff of high probability 2 Townie deaths vs low probability scum hit in the event that Jackal is Town.

Yeah you guys go on about "omg we killed a blue" but look at what the blue does. IMO in this scenario mislynching a blue suicidal Vig is better for Town than mislynching a Vanilla Townie.
wat
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 12 2012 21:51 GMT
#382
lol Dr. H I expected more from you....
I'm actually getting replaced just having a bit of fun
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 12 2012 21:53 GMT
#383
On March 13 2012 06:51 Curu wrote:
I am looking at it this way:

If Jackal is Town and we leave him alive he basically has to shoot. And the probability is very high that he hits a Townie. So in this case we have dead Town Jackal, dead Town someone else, and a dead lynch target. No one to me looks obvious scum enough to warrant switching the lynch like this.

If Jackal is Town and we lynch him then we've lynched a Townie day 1. We end up with a net of dead Town Jackal and lose a substitute dead lynch target.

If Jackal is scum then yay.

I don't feel like there is another candidate I want to lynch bad enough to take the tradeoff of high probability 2 Townie deaths vs low probability scum hit in the event that Jackal is Town.

Yeah you guys go on about "omg we killed a blue" but look at what the blue does. IMO in this scenario mislynching a blue suicidal Vig is better for Town than mislynching a Vanilla Townie.


This totally sounds like a post that someone who's sure enough someone is scum to lynch them posted.[/sarcasm]

Notice how in this whole post, the only scenario in which Jackal is scum has six words and is buried in the rest of the bullshit.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 12 2012 21:54 GMT
#384
A great chunk of day 1 discussion has also gone into Jackal. If he does flip Town we have loads of connections and info to work with, whereas switching in the last few hours to someone else absolves a lot of vote pressure since there will be little discussion and a mounting pressure of "we gotta get a lynch!"
wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 12 2012 21:54 GMT
#385
What do you want me to say before you respond? You didn't explain your claim or your vote. If you're just trolling then yes you deserve to be ignored completely.

Lynch Jitsu. The WIFOM concerning Jackal will sort itself out at night right? So why are we lynching a claimed blue right now? It's not something mafia can even fake it would go down in history as the worst fakeclaim ever
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 12 2012 21:55 GMT
#386
Yes! Lynch for information!

Say, Curu, if Jackal isn't lying who do we lynch then?
RIP Aaliyah
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#387
On March 13 2012 06:51 Pandain wrote:
lol Dr. H I expected more from you....
I'm actually getting replaced just having a bit of fun


) : was hoping you could help jack out.

Umm curu, what if someone could make sure jack survives the night? Would that be a good move? Make sure he can save the bullet till he knows who scum is? I just don't see the merits of killing a blue when all we have to do is just wait a day to see if he's lying ):
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#388
On March 13 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
This Jackal wagon is scum-infested. Everyone gtfo. Even if Jackal is scum, I bet there are scum on the wagon.

Everyone should be lynching Caller right now because he's manipulating the town.

again with the preparations for whatever the flip is. your time will come soon so stop squirming.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#389
Are you really arguing over how I've worded my posts VE? Why don't you address the content instead or stay quiet with your useless bullshit posts?

If Jackal isn't lying then I read the thread again after the flip and see what stands out. I'm not going to go do that right now.
wat
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 21:59 GMT
#390
I cant hounestley see where curu's coming from, he plays down bm's obviously awful play as just flip floppy and argues that we should kill the guy who claimed as specific hue of blue, curu what is it about jacks play that you actually find scummy? before the claim.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 12 2012 22:02 GMT
#391
On March 13 2012 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What do you want me to say before you respond? You didn't explain your claim or your vote. If you're just trolling then yes you deserve to be ignored completely.

Lynch Jitsu. The WIFOM concerning Jackal will sort itself out at night right? So why are we lynching a claimed blue right now? It's not something mafia can even fake it would go down in history as the worst fakeclaim ever


You criticize me for making a bad vote on someone because I think I catch a scumslip, and you push others to lynch me based on...what? The fact that I think I caught a scumslip and you don't?
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 12 2012 22:02 GMT
#392
lol that post by VE was so ridiculously bad.

gumshoe you're really getting caught up in the idea that blues are sacred. Jackal's role is arguably more anti Town than pro Town. Consider that even normal Vigilantes can contribute heavily to Town losing, a suicide Vig is a hundred times worse.
wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 12 2012 22:03 GMT
#393
No blues aren't sacred but why lynch someone you think is telling the truth

The only reason you should vote for jackal is if you are sure he is lying
RIP Aaliyah
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 22:07 GMT
#394
On March 13 2012 07:02 Curu wrote:
lol that post by VE was so ridiculously bad.

gumshoe you're really getting caught up in the idea that blues are sacred. Jackal's role is arguably more anti Town than pro Town. Consider that even normal Vigilantes can contribute heavily to Town losing, a suicide Vig is a hundred times worse.


I admit I have a high opinion of blues, but really the solution is simple, jackal just dosent have to shoot. Lets have him make a deal, we treat his shot as a lynch, we vote who he kills, regardless as long as jackal remains alive mafia will have to roleblock him or at least be wary of him. I value you bues but I am not relying on them and I am not doing scums job by killing one.

Also are you actually trying to convince me that mislynching is a good thing?

Btw do we even have enough people right now for a majority lynch?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 12 2012 22:08 GMT
#395
Go find the case yourself gumshoe, I'm not here to baby you.

Before the claim I would lynch Jackal 100% over anyone else. I feel that strongly about my meta read.

After the claim I think that it is completely weird for Mafia to claim that but this is outweighed by my belief that a Suicidal Vig has no place in a Normal game. With Jackal's history of claiming crazy shit as Mafia (Resurrection Mafia he claimed some impossibly convoluted role, Cosmic Horror Mafia he "found" the breadcrumb to bus one of his Mafia mates for examples) I wouldn't put something like this past him.
wat
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 22:08 GMT
#396
I'm kind sad my bm case kinda got walked over T_T
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 22:10 GMT
#397
On March 13 2012 07:08 Curu wrote:
Go find the case yourself gumshoe, I'm not here to baby you.

Before the claim I would lynch Jackal 100% over anyone else. I feel that strongly about my meta read.

After the claim I think that it is completely weird for Mafia to claim that but this is outweighed by my belief that a Suicidal Vig has no place in a Normal game. With Jackal's history of claiming crazy shit as Mafia (Resurrection Mafia he claimed some impossibly convoluted role, Cosmic Horror Mafia he "found" the breadcrumb to bus one of his Mafia mates for examples) I wouldn't put something like this past him.


I'll make you a deal, if no blues die tonight and we have no way to confirm the games theme, I will put an end to jackal. Thats the best I can offer.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 22:11 GMT
#398
oh sorry I meant help put an end to jackal.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 22:14 GMT
#399
well gonna go see a movie later guy! Murray!
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 12 2012 22:14 GMT
#400
I meant vote Murray!
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
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