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On March 13 2012 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It was better than Caller's bullshit case but that's literally all you have besides dumb setup speculation. Meta has never been enough for me to vote for somebody and that's never case. If I thought the meta case was legit I would have voted for Jackal.
You're the one spearheading his lynch. You're the only person to provide any reason to put suspicion on Jackal but not nearly enough to push this bandwagon as hard as you have. You have no reason to believe Jackal is lying about his claim besides "hurrrr this is a normal game"
DoctorH this is why nobody is listening to you.
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On March 13 2012 08:25 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It was better than Caller's bullshit case but that's literally all you have besides dumb setup speculation. Meta has never been enough for me to vote for somebody and that's never case. If I thought the meta case was legit I would have voted for Jackal.
You're the one spearheading his lynch. You're the only person to provide any reason to put suspicion on Jackal but not nearly enough to push this bandwagon as hard as you have. You have no reason to believe Jackal is lying about his claim besides "hurrrr this is a normal game" DoctorH this is why nobody is listening to you.
Nobody is listening to you either so why are you being antagonistic
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On March 13 2012 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 08:25 Caller wrote:On March 13 2012 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It was better than Caller's bullshit case but that's literally all you have besides dumb setup speculation. Meta has never been enough for me to vote for somebody and that's never case. If I thought the meta case was legit I would have voted for Jackal.
You're the one spearheading his lynch. You're the only person to provide any reason to put suspicion on Jackal but not nearly enough to push this bandwagon as hard as you have. You have no reason to believe Jackal is lying about his claim besides "hurrrr this is a normal game" DoctorH this is why nobody is listening to you. Nobody is listening to you either so why are you being antagonistic
Just because I threw a bullshit reason at you to bait scum doesn't mean you're off the hook. Just try me.
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So this is how it is:
If Jackal is lying about his role, it should be exposed fairly soon and we would be able to lynch him if this were to happen.
If Jackal is not lying then whether his role is beneficial to town or not, he is town and we should not lynch him.
So we really do not have to lynch him.
The main problem that we face is that we are running short on time and the other candidates look green.
I think Jitsu is town. I think caller is town.
I also think that i need to sleep.
I want to post this
+ Show Spoiler [click for win] +Kurumi is not trolling.
It follows that he is probably scum.
##Vote Kurumi
but it is too late for that.
Instead: DocH who of the current lynch targets would you least like to lynch?
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We are going to get a no lynch if people don't hop on jackal.
Put your votes in please no need to wait to the last minute
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Caller, why haven't you actually been pushing for Jackal's lynch if you want to kill him?
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In response to layabout i really think kurumi could be the next lynch candidate. It makes perfect sense that he is the tratior
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On March 13 2012 08:33 layabout wrote:So this is how it is: If Jackal is lying about his role, it should be exposed fairly soon and we would be able to lynch him if this were to happen. If Jackal is not lying then whether his role is beneficial to town or not, he is town and we should not lynch him. So we really do not have to lynch him. The main problem that we face is that we are running short on time and the other candidates look green. I think Jitsu is town. I think caller is town. I also think that i need to sleep. I want to post this + Show Spoiler [click for win] +Kurumi is not trolling.
It follows that he is probably scum.
##Vote Kurumi but it is too late for that. Instead: DocH who of the current lynch targets would you least like to lynch?
Jackal because I believe his claim.
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On March 13 2012 08:29 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 13 2012 08:25 Caller wrote:On March 13 2012 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It was better than Caller's bullshit case but that's literally all you have besides dumb setup speculation. Meta has never been enough for me to vote for somebody and that's never case. If I thought the meta case was legit I would have voted for Jackal.
You're the one spearheading his lynch. You're the only person to provide any reason to put suspicion on Jackal but not nearly enough to push this bandwagon as hard as you have. You have no reason to believe Jackal is lying about his claim besides "hurrrr this is a normal game" DoctorH this is why nobody is listening to you. Nobody is listening to you either so why are you being antagonistic Just because I threw a bullshit reason at you to bait scum doesn't mean you're off the hook. Just try me.
You threw bullshit reasons at Jackal too, all you've done is throw bullshit. You won't get under my skin when you're playing this retarded.
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layabout do you suspect anyone besides kurumi and for reasons other than "he's not trolling" ?
Do you actually suspect Jackal?
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On March 13 2012 08:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Caller, why haven't you actually been pushing for Jackal's lynch if you want to kill him?
because if people can't read facts in the face and understand them they'll never be convinced.
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Caller, you're accusing VE of setting himself up to look good no matter what the outcome of the lynch is, but isn't that exactly what you're doing as well? You're trying to set up a day 2 lynch without even knowing the result of this one, nor any night flips. Also, the lynch you're pushing for, is if we mislynch, again something you accuse VE of doing.
On March 13 2012 05:27 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Caller, you're saying that my strategy as scum is to wait until town is getting ready to lynch my scumbuddy Jackal and then come in and defend him. When he's about to get lynched. That's your "working theory".
I tried that once, and it was in Hammer Mafia. I'll NEVER do that again. I'll admit that I could be wrong about Jackal - but I would NEVER do that as scum again Caller. Ever. You're an idiot if you "think" that's what's going on here.
The fact that you "think" that's what's happening here only solidifies what I already suspected.
Everyone needs to be voting for Caller. Look at this scumslip. He already knows what Jackal is. I can think of one reason why. I specifically said that no matter if Jackal is town or mafia that you're setting yourself up to reap the reward of knowing ahead of time what Jackal is. As a result. I'm trying to stop you. You're saying that you had previously defended a mafiaso and you're never doing it again. The trouble here is, you're defending Jackal. So you therefore seem to know that Jackal is NOT mafia, and since you know his role DAY 1, this leads me to conclude that you're... Its quite simple: we lynch Jackal. If he comes up mafia, hurray. If he's not mafia, VisceraEyes must be mafia.One last thing: I don't use "think" and "theory." More false doubt... more mafia tactics.
DrH, are you still around? What do you think?
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It's completely illogical. VE is saying if he were scum that he wouldn't jump to defend a teammate that quickly which is WIFOM in and of itself but is not indicative of his alignment or that he knows Jackal's alignment. Caller is stupid.
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VE, Jacka,l Kurumi and Jaybrundage would be my suspects, of those leaving my vote on Jackal seems best. I am not happy about this.
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On March 13 2012 09:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Caller, you're accusing VE of setting himself up to look good no matter what the outcome of the lynch is, but isn't that exactly what you're doing as well? You're trying to set up a day 2 lynch without even knowing the result of this one, nor any night flips. Also, the lynch you're pushing for, is if we mislynch, again something you accuse VE of doing. Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 05:27 Caller wrote:On March 13 2012 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Caller, you're saying that my strategy as scum is to wait until town is getting ready to lynch my scumbuddy Jackal and then come in and defend him. When he's about to get lynched. That's your "working theory".
I tried that once, and it was in Hammer Mafia. I'll NEVER do that again. I'll admit that I could be wrong about Jackal - but I would NEVER do that as scum again Caller. Ever. You're an idiot if you "think" that's what's going on here.
The fact that you "think" that's what's happening here only solidifies what I already suspected.
Everyone needs to be voting for Caller. Look at this scumslip. He already knows what Jackal is. I can think of one reason why. I specifically said that no matter if Jackal is town or mafia that you're setting yourself up to reap the reward of knowing ahead of time what Jackal is. As a result. I'm trying to stop you. You're saying that you had previously defended a mafiaso and you're never doing it again. The trouble here is, you're defending Jackal. So you therefore seem to know that Jackal is NOT mafia, and since you know his role DAY 1, this leads me to conclude that you're... Its quite simple: we lynch Jackal. If he comes up mafia, hurray. If he's not mafia, VisceraEyes must be mafia.One last thing: I don't use "think" and "theory." More false doubt... more mafia tactics. DrH, are you still around? What do you think?
Like I care about my reputation. You can think whatever the hell you want of my actions, I don't give them any consideration. I just want to kill mafia. So make sure you don't slip or else i'll be on your ass like it was your first day in prison.
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On March 13 2012 08:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's inconclusive. I have no reason to believe you can't be teammates just because you take opposing viewpoints particularly when the bandwagon is so heavily swung in one direction there's no real danger there. Jitsu singled out prplhz and voted for him here but never voted in the actual voting thread which makes me think it's bullshit. He hasn't pushed it since then despite claiming that he still believes in it.
I try to just look at people as individuals, I tend to second guess myself a lot when I start to think of teams and until somebody actually flips it's difficult for me. It caused a lot of problems for me in Arkham City particularly.
You're both acting scummy in my eyes so what am I supposed to think?
Check again, sweetheart.
I still think he is scum because I perceive a scumslip. Not much of a case, but it's better then "let's vote Jackl after he claims blue in the thread." again, his meta looks pretty close to what I saw in Storm, and I think DrH sees it too. He's not getting my vote.
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That yells sarcasm to me a lot more then it screams scum.
Wiggles brings up a good point. prphlz is a player that wouldn't just happen to miss the name of someone that posted. It's almost like prphlz was waiting for Curu to post something, realized he fucked up, then tried to cover it.
It's not surprising that prphlz mistakes Curu for Caller, and then 10 minutes later, Curu ACTUALLY comes out with a small little case against Jackal as well.
Shit reeks.
##vote prphlz
and according to the voting thread
Not voting: Jitsu, Mr. Wiggles, [UoN]Sentinel, deconduo
what did I miss exactly?
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Not sure, voted on Page 2. Easily remedied.
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On March 13 2012 09:25 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Caller, you're accusing VE of setting himself up to look good no matter what the outcome of the lynch is, but isn't that exactly what you're doing as well? You're trying to set up a day 2 lynch without even knowing the result of this one, nor any night flips. Also, the lynch you're pushing for, is if we mislynch, again something you accuse VE of doing. On March 13 2012 05:27 Caller wrote:On March 13 2012 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Caller, you're saying that my strategy as scum is to wait until town is getting ready to lynch my scumbuddy Jackal and then come in and defend him. When he's about to get lynched. That's your "working theory".
I tried that once, and it was in Hammer Mafia. I'll NEVER do that again. I'll admit that I could be wrong about Jackal - but I would NEVER do that as scum again Caller. Ever. You're an idiot if you "think" that's what's going on here.
The fact that you "think" that's what's happening here only solidifies what I already suspected.
Everyone needs to be voting for Caller. Look at this scumslip. He already knows what Jackal is. I can think of one reason why. I specifically said that no matter if Jackal is town or mafia that you're setting yourself up to reap the reward of knowing ahead of time what Jackal is. As a result. I'm trying to stop you. You're saying that you had previously defended a mafiaso and you're never doing it again. The trouble here is, you're defending Jackal. So you therefore seem to know that Jackal is NOT mafia, and since you know his role DAY 1, this leads me to conclude that you're... Its quite simple: we lynch Jackal. If he comes up mafia, hurray. If he's not mafia, VisceraEyes must be mafia.One last thing: I don't use "think" and "theory." More false doubt... more mafia tactics. DrH, are you still around? What do you think? Like I care about my reputation. You can think whatever the hell you want of my actions, I don't give them any consideration. I just want to kill mafia. So make sure you don't slip or else i'll be on your ass like it was your first day in prison.
"See guys?! See how fearlessly town I am?! And witness my overwhelming enmity against the mafias! GRRRRRRZZZ!!"
I think Caller is pouring it on a little thick, but maybe that's just a playstyle thing. Caller is still scum. Everyone should STILL be voting for him if they're not.
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