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On March 13 2012 09:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:25 Caller wrote:On March 13 2012 09:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Caller, you're accusing VE of setting himself up to look good no matter what the outcome of the lynch is, but isn't that exactly what you're doing as well? You're trying to set up a day 2 lynch without even knowing the result of this one, nor any night flips. Also, the lynch you're pushing for, is if we mislynch, again something you accuse VE of doing. On March 13 2012 05:27 Caller wrote:On March 13 2012 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Caller, you're saying that my strategy as scum is to wait until town is getting ready to lynch my scumbuddy Jackal and then come in and defend him. When he's about to get lynched. That's your "working theory".
I tried that once, and it was in Hammer Mafia. I'll NEVER do that again. I'll admit that I could be wrong about Jackal - but I would NEVER do that as scum again Caller. Ever. You're an idiot if you "think" that's what's going on here.
The fact that you "think" that's what's happening here only solidifies what I already suspected.
Everyone needs to be voting for Caller. Look at this scumslip. He already knows what Jackal is. I can think of one reason why. I specifically said that no matter if Jackal is town or mafia that you're setting yourself up to reap the reward of knowing ahead of time what Jackal is. As a result. I'm trying to stop you. You're saying that you had previously defended a mafiaso and you're never doing it again. The trouble here is, you're defending Jackal. So you therefore seem to know that Jackal is NOT mafia, and since you know his role DAY 1, this leads me to conclude that you're... Its quite simple: we lynch Jackal. If he comes up mafia, hurray. If he's not mafia, VisceraEyes must be mafia.One last thing: I don't use "think" and "theory." More false doubt... more mafia tactics. DrH, are you still around? What do you think? Like I care about my reputation. You can think whatever the hell you want of my actions, I don't give them any consideration. I just want to kill mafia. So make sure you don't slip or else i'll be on your ass like it was your first day in prison. "See guys?! See how fearlessly town I am?! And witness my overwhelming enmity against the mafias! GRRRRRRZZZ!!" I think Caller is pouring it on a little thick, but maybe that's just a playstyle thing. Caller is still scum. Everyone should STILL be voting for him if they're not.
you have fun with that bro.
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On March 13 2012 09:43 Node wrote:
##Unvote Jackal58
Change of heart, Node?
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On March 13 2012 09:57 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Change of heart, Node?
I'm thinking it over. Didn't want it to become a majority while I was unsure. Bigger post coming.
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God... it's late and I don't want to think right now...
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel until I find a better reason.
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On March 13 2012 10:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
God... it's late and I don't want to think right now...
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel until I find a better reason.
wat
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I buy Jackal's roleclaim. I don't think it's too far-fetched to have a suicidal vigi in a normal game, and it supports the statement in the day 1 post that this game is themed around "choices". (that is to say, the choices we make have especially harsh consequences. like death.) It's also a role that makes sense in the context of a game where it's possible for the mafia to hide the alignment flip. More importantly, it's an easily verifiable claim -- were I mafia, it's a claim I sure as hell wouldn't make. You can say that's just WIFOM, but the point stands that it's hella easy for us to see whether or not Jackal is being truthful.
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We're well on our way to a no lynch with 1 hour left in the day. Solid.
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I'm going to vote Caller for now, I need to do some stuff, and I'll read over before day ends. We have two hours, right?
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On March 13 2012 11:04 Curu wrote:
We're well on our way to a no lynch with 1 hour left in the day. Solid.
Actually are there one or two hours left? The day post contradicts what the Voting Thread is showing.
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We need five votes to hit a majority. That's like 2 more than the grand total of people who have been reading this thread.
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No-lynch > lynching town. Curu, why are you so sure Jackal is scum? Do you not want to admit you could be wrong about your godlike day 1 meta reads?
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Back ... not much has changed? pandain and jackal fake claims and a bunch of poo flinging to see what sticks?
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On March 13 2012 11:20 Mattchew wrote:
Back ... not much has changed? pandain and jackal fake claims and a bunch of poo flinging to see what sticks?
were not monkies -_- how about we lynch a lurker? Or are we set on a no lynch right now?
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On March 13 2012 11:06 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 11:04 Curu wrote:
We're well on our way to a no lynch with 1 hour left in the day. Solid. Actually are there one or two hours left? The day post contradicts what the Voting Thread is showing.
The Day 1 post is correct. The deadline is in ~30 mins.
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I admit I can be wrong. But if we leave Jackal alive he's going to have to shoot someone. As I said much more likely to hit Town. Then we still have dead Jackal but also another dead Townie.
If he's scum then we've completely wasted a day and have to go through this same crap tomorrow.
Logically, objectively, subjectively, whatever measure I see Jackal as the best lynch but I guess we waste day 1.
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The best Town player to have received the Dreamflower role, Mig, decided not to use the role at all because it was a role that had much more potential to harm Town than do good for Town.
I would argue that the Suicidal Vig role would be best played as just a Vanilla Townie since the costs outweigh the benefits but we can't exactly have that with Jackal now can we? He's only off the hook with many people because of his confirmable role claim. If he is Town then he has to use a role that's detrimental to Town to prove it, if he is Mafia then we've wasted a day and inevitably face this same discussion next cycle.
There's no other even close to realistic option at this point. It looks like we are headed squarely for a no lynch.
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Oh well, it might just be an empty gesture at this point, but I'm going to vote Sheth for not explaining his vote on BM and excessive lurking, especially after claiming he would be posting more today. Others are welcome to join me.
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On March 13 2012 11:36 Curu wrote:
The best Town player to have received the Dreamflower role, Mig, decided not to use the role at all because it was a role that had much more potential to harm Town than do good for Town.
I would argue that the Suicidal Vig role would be best played as just a Vanilla Townie since the costs outweigh the benefits but we can't exactly have that with Jackal now can we? He's only off the hook with many people because of his confirmable role claim. If he is Town then he has to use a role that's detrimental to Town to prove it, if he is Mafia then we've wasted a day and inevitably face this same discussion next cycle.
There's no other even close to realistic option at this point. It looks like we are headed squarely for a no lynch.
How about I shoot you in the dick?
Not like I could miss...................
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Yeah that's true Jackal, my dick is pretty huge.
The activity level in this game is pretty pathetic. Probably the worst I've ever played in. It's not even that we no lynched because people found other cases/other reads, we no lynched because only about 5 players in this game actually give a shit.
Do me a favour and shoot me if you're really Dreamflower Jackal. We can ride off into the sunset together.
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And if you're Mafia you should probably shoot me too, that way there will only be 4 people who give a shit left!
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