I actually think Tiystus is town. The way he defended NL was pretty towntelling for me.
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I actually think Tiystus is town. The way he defended NL was pretty towntelling for me. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
In my opinion, day1 lynch is very difficult to conduct. Without any "hard" evidence (from kills, etc.) and only through talking, any mafia can be just as pro-town as anyone else. | ||
DimmuKlok
United States225 Posts
On March 03 2012 03:09 Sufficiency wrote: If I have to choose from the three I listed above, however, I'd probably just lynch beorn. It feels to me that his inactivity is either because he is really scum, or his lack of power (i.e. he is probably vanilla). I really don't think he is a PR of any sort. It feels like a safe lynch to me. In my opinion, day1 lynch is very difficult to conduct. Without any "hard" evidence (from kills, etc.) and only through talking, any mafia can be just as pro-town as anyone else. I agree. Lets lynch beorn. He has yet to contribute and say who he feels is a good lynch candidate for today. | ||
Rainmaker5
United States1027 Posts
going to link post #s so I don't have to explain where I'm getting information Trapdoor http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13742776 This is just a good post that I feel I can stand behind. Against a no-lynch and wants people to talk. Standard behavior for a good town player. Dimmuclock http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13743011 same shit, for a lynch wants people to discuss. Otoshi~~~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13743011 Here's pretty suspcious to me, starts out against a lynch at all, when people say they're for it switches to random lynch. Seems pretty scummy. Up to this point I don't think people had mentioned a random lynch. Gunman Don't really have a read on him b/c he doesn't really seem sure of his own opinion would like to hear more from him but I can't really say that FoSing currently Tiy and fried are on the lynch train- seems good Mav is seems pretty opposed to a random lynch, not to much to say after that Pablos http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13750765 going out of his way to fly off the handle when someone is suspicious, is well suspicious. Also he seems to be supporting random lynch? I'm not really sure Beorn doesn't really seem to have an opinion- no read So I don't really like Pablos's style, but he cleaned up towards the end. Mav and Memtoss are off my radar currenly because even if they're scum they're encouraging posts and moving forward that's going to hurt them. Suff is kinda sketchy- takes attention away from his rampant fingering by putting it on people who didn't react. But I really feel the guy who's generating the most noise is definitely OtoshimonoU. He feels really scummy and even if he's jsut playing poorly is the type of guy that real scum can use to keep deflecting attention. Which I guess is something you can suspect me of doing lol Anyway that's my vote and my analysis. Wish me luck on my Midterm! | ||
DimmuKlok
United States225 Posts
I also posted this vote in the voting thread. | ||
Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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DimmuKlok
United States225 Posts
On March 03 2012 03:33 Rainmaker5 wrote: Ok I'm going to draft up a list and announce my vote real quick. this formatiting will be a bit wonky but I don't have time to really make shit pretty right now. going to link post #s so I don't have to explain where I'm getting information Trapdoor http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13742776 This is just a good post that I feel I can stand behind. Against a no-lynch and wants people to talk. Standard behavior for a good town player. Dimmuclock http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13743011 same shit, for a lynch wants people to discuss. Otoshi~~~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13743011 Here's pretty suspcious to me, starts out against a lynch at all, when people say they're for it switches to random lynch. Seems pretty scummy. Up to this point I don't think people had mentioned a random lynch. Gunman Don't really have a read on him b/c he doesn't really seem sure of his own opinion would like to hear more from him but I can't really say that FoSing currently Tiy and fried are on the lynch train- seems good Mav is seems pretty opposed to a random lynch, not to much to say after that Pablos http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13750765 going out of his way to fly off the handle when someone is suspicious, is well suspicious. Also he seems to be supporting random lynch? I'm not really sure Beorn doesn't really seem to have an opinion- no read So I don't really like Pablos's style, but he cleaned up towards the end. Mav and Memtoss are off my radar currenly because even if they're scum they're encouraging posts and moving forward that's going to hurt them. Suff is kinda sketchy- takes attention away from his rampant fingering by putting it on people who didn't react. But I really feel the guy who's generating the most noise is definitely OtoshimonoU. He feels really scummy and even if he's jsut playing poorly is the type of guy that real scum can use to keep deflecting attention. Which I guess is something you can suspect me of doing lol Anyway that's my vote and my analysis. Wish me luck on my Midterm! The only useful thing about this post is your opinion on OtoshimonoU. There is no point in bringing up the names of people that are not on our current suspect list and then not even accuse them of anything. That kind of information is just taking up space. You haven't posted much up until now and that post is looking pretty suspicious to me... ##FoS: Rainmaker5 | ||
trackd00r
Chile284 Posts
The idea of a beorn lynch doesn't seem bad for me as well, but I'd to hear his opinion. Remember that if he doesn't cast it's vote today he will be modkilled. So if he doesn't want to risk that, he should better be up with a good reason to lynch someone. @Dimmuklok, why do you claim that the only useful thing about Rainmaker post is the Oto? What about the comments he made about Pablols? Plus, you say that there is no need to bring up more names. Then, what's the point FoSing him? That move was rather unnecessary. I'm currently holding vote on Oto, but as I said I'll consider anything else. This is very important. If any of these candidates are heading up to a mis-lynch (townie lynched), Mafia will try to push very hard them without leaving their hands dirty. This hasn't finished yet. We still have 7 hours so let's them wisely. | ||
DimmuKlok
United States225 Posts
On March 03 2012 04:15 trackd00r wrote: We really, really, REALLY need to hear beorn, tiystus and friedchicken. The idea of a beorn lynch doesn't seem bad for me as well, but I'd to hear his opinion. Remember that if he doesn't cast it's vote today he will be modkilled. So if he doesn't want to risk that, he should better be up with a good reason to lynch someone. @Dimmuklok, why do you claim that the only useful thing about Rainmaker post is the Oto? What about the comments he made about Pablols? Plus, you say that there is no need to bring up more names. Then, what's the point FoSing him? That move was rather unnecessary. I'm currently holding vote on Oto, but as I said I'll consider anything else. This is very important. If any of these candidates are heading up to a mis-lynch (townie lynched), Mafia will try to push very hard them without leaving their hands dirty. This hasn't finished yet. We still have 7 hours so let's them wisely. How is what he says about Pablols of any use at all? He first says that Pablols is suspicious, then right after says that he thinks that he supports random lynching. How can you get anything of use if the person posting doesn't even know the stance of the person they are posting about? The only useful thing I can see from that post is his stance on Oto. Not even what he posts about him, because it brings nothing new to the table, but just that he wants to lynch Oto is important to note. He voted that he's willing to lynch Oto, and yet this is his read on him "Here's pretty suspcious to me, starts out against a lynch at all, when people say they're for it switches to random lynch. Seems pretty scummy. Up to this point I don't think people had mentioned a random lynch." If he really wanted to benefit the town, he could have made a detailed post on why he's willing to lynch Oto, instead of a bunch of useless info. | ||
Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On March 03 2012 04:30 DimmuKlok wrote: How is what he says about Pablols of any use at all? He first says that Pablols is suspicious, then right after says that he thinks that he supports random lynching. How can you get anything of use if the person posting doesn't even know the stance of the person they are posting about? The only useful thing I can see from that post is his stance on Oto. Not even what he posts about him, because it brings nothing new to the table, but just that he wants to lynch Oto is important to note. He voted that he's willing to lynch Oto, and yet this is his read on him "Here's pretty suspcious to me, starts out against a lynch at all, when people say they're for it switches to random lynch. Seems pretty scummy. Up to this point I don't think people had mentioned a random lynch." If he really wanted to benefit the town, he could have made a detailed post on why he's willing to lynch Oto, instead of a bunch of useless info. I think he was trying to organize information of what he thought of everybody similar to maverick. Point is he does a fairly poor job of it. Most of the information is old/irrelavant and should/could have been discussed when it actually happened. (Actually quotes trackd00rs first post of the game). Rehasing old information that has already been discussed or addressed, or is plain just not important is a good way to get the town running in circles. I think his reasoning behind this post is to show he's not an opinionless lurker. The whole post is just agreeing with either the general majority or is so wishy washy that it doesn't say anything. Sorta like "he seems suspicious, but then he did this, maybe I don't understand his style". He also disregards someone as mafia because they support the lynch, which is just poor logic. I agree it woulda been better having a fleshed out post of who he thought too lynch, and maybe another paragraph naming his 2nd idea. I don't nessecarily think this post was distracting on purpose, but it is worth mentioning and keeping an eye on rainmaker. | ||
DimmuKlok
United States225 Posts
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kitaman27
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Sbrubbles
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DimmuKlok
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
Good posts!! I'm really glad to hear from you!! That being said, I truly am suspecting the following people as the most likely to be mafia at this point- Sufficiency- Its not so much the things you said, but the reactions that I've been gathering from the bottom two. Obviously I suspected you from the start due to your poor posting. But it seems like a lot of the other people were eager to let you get by as "poor town", and you weren't confronted at all. Then all of a sudden you post that you want to get rid of the lurker, and Dim hopes right on board. You've established zero credability in this thread, if anything you were seen as a non-helpful, yet for some reason you're getting bandwagon support..... Dim- You've spent a lot of time defending Mementoss, and bandwagoned with Sufficiency. On March 02 2012 19:25 DimmuKlok wrote: My thoughts regarding Mementoss and Pablols, I think we have a case of 2 townies accusing each other. Yes Mementoss did misquote Pablols but his posts thus far have given me a town vibe, and a misquote is no reason to lynch someone. Pablols doesn't really have a solid case on him since Mementoss's case was addressed by Pablols, and in my opinion truth except for accusation of Mementoss. Normally I wouldn't be posting who I think is town, but I don't want to see the discussion of who to lynch on these two, since I think it's a waste of time at the moment. On March 03 2012 03:24 DimmuKlok wrote: I agree. Lets lynch beorn. He has yet to contribute and say who he feels is a good lynch candidate for today. On March 02 2012 07:59 DimmuKlok wrote: Because some of you are starting to look at Mementoss, I'm going to post my opinion on him quickly and post my scum reads a bit later. Mementoss's posts thus far seem pro town to me. He's been either giving his opinion on the topic at hand, pointing out inactives, and posting his scum reads. Even if all his scum picks were wrong, it's still pro town to put it out there. It forces responses from the accused, which brings more information to the table. I think this is highly suspicous behavior. Both players have bounced off each other and defended each other's actions to establish credability. Mementos: On March 02 2012 05:46 Mementoss wrote: Sufficiency (although trackd00r brings up a point about his sloppy posts) Not counting Beorn cause I think it might be cause hes a noob and just forgot about the game starting to be honest. But he is in my mind too. Creating excuses for Sufficiency. On March 02 2012 10:37 Mementoss wrote: @Maverick - I would also like to hear more from Sufficiency, I still have a decently scummy read on him based on his low amount of posting. Content related posters (includes at least 1 post unique opinion with logic and evidence to back it up.) Mementoss trackd00r maverick dimmuklok --> interested in your opinion of scum. No unique opinion (bandwagoners) - Little content posts/one liners /derails gunman rainman friedchicken tiystus otoshimoU beornt Quick to judge - Quick fos, multiple FoS, no evidence to back it up Pablos FoS ->(trackd00r, mementoss) Suffiency FoS ->(gunman, OtU) I honestly was shocked when I saw Dimm in this list. I looked through his filter and did not see a whole lot of "Meaningful posts".. but I guess the bar was set kind of low for this... I think he kept Sufficiency in the bottom since obviously I have been making a scene about him. You later make a huge post about how scummy Sufficiency is, and how you think he is the worst townie ever, or mafia. On March 03 2012 02:57 Mementoss wrote: @Maverick, I still don't see the read on Tiystus personally, but would lvoe to hear more from him. I consider him more of a lurker than anything. If we lynch Sufficiency or OtoshimonoU I think there is a damn good chance one of them is scum, and they are both pretty worthless (so far ) as town. Don't forget OtoshimonoU not responding to you as well Not only ignores you but ignores trackd00r. Not only ignores you and trackd00rs question but also mine. About Sufficiency, I think he is town. No newbie mafia would try to catch up so much attention in that way. They'd rather stay more quiet and apparently contribute, which it's kinda working for them now. Beorn1 hasn't posted anything yet. The player I would worry right now is OtoshimonoU. He has been the least contributor (excluding beorn) so far. This is his only post with actual content. Right now the lack of posting is really hurting us seeing different point of views, and to get more of a read on where some people stand. Both sufficiency and OtoshimonoU are good lynches imo, and I just want to make sure we get the majority to get one out and gain some information. My vote right now is committed to [red]OtoshimonoU.[red] Yet you've flipped to Oto, and are actively trying to make me consider Oto, and point to his lack of answering to both myself and Trackd00r- trying to get us to sway our votes. All this being said!!!! I won't vote for mementoss or Dim. They do talk a lot, which would be useful later on if they do end up being Mafia... So I guess that leads me to who I should vote for... I have about 2 hours left!! So I'm going to keep reading through and seeing what people come up with!!! Feel free to respond Sufficiency, Dim and Mementoss- I'd like to hear a counter to what I've posted, since I'm trying to stay open-minded. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 03 2012 05:51 Maverick32x wrote: @Sufficiency- Good posts!! I'm really glad to hear from you!! That being said, I truly am suspecting the following people as the most likely to be mafia at this point- Sufficiency- Its not so much the things you said, but the reactions that I've been gathering from the bottom two. Obviously I suspected you from the start due to your poor posting. But it seems like a lot of the other people were eager to let you get by as "poor town", and you weren't confronted at all. Then all of a sudden you post that you want to get rid of the lurker, and Dim hopes right on board. You've established zero credability in this thread, if anything you were seen as a non-helpful, yet for some reason you're getting bandwagon support..... Dim- You've spent a lot of time defending Mementoss, and bandwagoned with Sufficiency. I think this is highly suspicous behavior. Both players have bounced off each other and defended each other's actions to establish credability. Mementos: Creating excuses for Sufficiency. I honestly was shocked when I saw Dimm in this list. I looked through his filter and did not see a whole lot of "Meaningful posts".. but I guess the bar was set kind of low for this... I think he kept Sufficiency in the bottom since obviously I have been making a scene about him. You later make a huge post about how scummy Sufficiency is, and how you think he is the worst townie ever, or mafia. Yet you've flipped to Oto, and are actively trying to make me consider Oto, and point to his lack of answering to both myself and Trackd00r- trying to get us to sway our votes. All this being said!!!! I won't vote for mementoss or Dim. They do talk a lot, which would be useful later on if they do end up being Mafia... So I guess that leads me to who I should vote for... I have about 2 hours left!! So I'm going to keep reading through and seeing what people come up with!!! Feel free to respond Sufficiency, Dim and Mementoss- I'd like to hear a counter to what I've posted, since I'm trying to stay open-minded. I am not sure what you are getting at - it almost sounds like you are trying to buddy me. | ||
Sufficiency
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 03 2012 06:09 Maverick32x wrote: Okay, well clearly you've only read the first sentence -_-.... also make sure you vote in the voting thread... if you haven't already... No I read the whole thing, obviously. I just can't put my finger on what you are trying to get at. | ||
Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
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