EPTHowever, since the number of people who are closely reading my posts is either 0 or 1, I'll probably just have to say it at some point.
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
However, since the number of people who are closely reading my posts is either 0 or 1, I'll probably just have to say it at some point. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:29 wherebugsgo wrote: also I had a very good reason for not voting RoL yesterday; one that should be apparent for anyone who is closely reading my posts. However, since the number of people who are closely reading my posts is either 0 or 1, I'll probably just have to say it at some point. cause RoL isn't scum and scum are keeping him alive cause it's the easy lynch right BC/Dirkzor/Toadesstern/VE imo | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't think it's scummy to not make first analysis or anything like that. I've hardly been pushing my reads either. WBG is pretty high on my list of people I think are scummy in this game but your analysis is bad and coupled with your play earlier in the game I'm inclined to think it's more likely that you're scum. I'm going to reread WBG's filter later but I really think we should lynch Toades today. You agree that it's scummy to vote based on town perception right? A main point in your analysis is WBG asking syllo for his opinion before pushing his case, thus implying WBG is more concerned about how town will view his opinions rather than his own instincts. Toades publically announced his reluctance to vote for BH based on nothing except for how town might view the vote. Nobody at the time was very concerned with Toadesstern and if BH flipped town I would have immediately rechecked BC and Dirkzor but not Toadesstern. The fact that he was so concerned with how town viewed him and also the fact that he was trivial in the BH lynch/case but yet saw himself as important enough to warrant a town reaction is the kind of implicit guilt and fear that mafia reek of. If you are town and you really suspect WBG is scum keep pressuring him and I'll see what happens, but for now Toades is the best lynch. RoL is uninterested in the game and should just be shot at night, I'd rather not waste a lynch on someone who isn't pressured by it and is too immature to play a game in which some people are suspicious of him This isn't pressure Doc, I think WBG is much more sinister as scum and FAR prefer a WBG lynch today. His post to syllo wasn't so much "fear of how town will view his change of heart" in my opinion. That's simply the point where he went from "redFF is bad" to "redFF is scum". The fact that it was appealing to syllogism, or that he was trying to justify changing his reads aren't really a part of my case at all, but I'm glad you mentioned them. Toadesstern thinks he's the most important player in any game regardless of alignment. I know, because I've been there and I've been that guy. It's not that he's wrong, in his game he is the star of the show - it's that he expects town to agree with him and either praise him on high when his reads are correct, or think he's instantly suspicious when he's wrong and go immediately on the defensive. Also, like with I said on D1 of Blazinghand before him...if he's scum, he's FAR more likely to slip up and out some of his team than WBG is. Toadesstern is just next in a long line of easy lynches. You should really give that WBG filter a good going-over. I think he's vastly better for today's lynch. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
according to your logic based on me talking to syllo, this post makes you scum: On February 25 2012 10:58 VisceraEyes wrote: BC - is this DocH's normal play? It looks to me like he's pouring on the "Hey guys, watch me pressure these noobs!" a little thick... asking BC for his reads subtly hinting Dr. H is scum. today, talks to Dr. H as if he's knowingly talking to a townie, trying to convince him I'm scum. sup scum logic | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:35 wherebugsgo wrote: Hey VE, according to your logic based on me talking to syllo, this post makes you scum: asking BC for his reads subtly hinting Dr. H is scum. today, talks to Dr. H as if he's knowingly talking to a townie, trying to convince him I'm scum. sup scum logic What I did: subtly poke an inactive-ish player (BloodyC0bbler) a specific question with clear motivation (is this scummy? are you going to contribute?) regarding a controversial player (DocH) who's absolutely NOT a lynch candidate. What you did: ask an active player (syllogism) a vague question (what are your thoughts) with unclear motivations (you've already said redFF was bad, you hadn't noted any change of opinion as of this post) of a player who's given his opinion on the player you're asking about (RedFF) who was already a lynch candidate. They're not the same things. Try again scum. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote: What I did: subtly poke an inactive-ish player (BloodyC0bbler) a specific question with clear motivation (is this scummy? are you going to contribute?) regarding a controversial player (DocH) who's absolutely NOT a lynch candidate. What you did: ask an active player (syllogism) a vague question (what are your thoughts) with unclear motivations (you've already said redFF was bad, you hadn't noted any change of opinion as of this post) of a player who's given his opinion on the player you're asking about (RedFF) who was already a lynch candidate. They're not the same things. Try again scum. trololol scum can't handle being owned on his own logic now you're just making up shit | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
that was an old anecdote, not the reason I unvoted BH. Quite frankly you got the answer within your quote. I ALREADY said that I thought BH could very well end up flipping townie before I did that post. If I hadn't the post you quoted would not refere to anything and people would have quoted that and asked "wait toad, you thinik BH is not 100% mafia? You never said that before oO". | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:47 wherebugsgo wrote: trololol scum can't handle being owned on his own logic now you're just making up shit Awwww, at least TRY and refute it scum - you don't have to go all redFF on us. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Funny thing is, I don't even need to make a case. Burden of proof and all that shit. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:54 prplhz wrote: ##Vote wherebugsgo Funny thing is, I don't even need to make a case. Burden of proof and all that shit. were have you been? didn't you say you're going to contribute the next few days? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:37 wherebugsgo wrote: syllo can you give me your opinion on redFF? I think I was completely wrong about him.  Compare that to this shit: On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote: /salute What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it. On February 21 2012 12:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Re: Jackal DAAAAYYYUUUUMMMM.... Nosrslytho, who's scum guy? I want drunk Jackal's opinion to compare it with sober Jackal's opinion later XD On February 21 2012 17:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Syllo what do you think about the back and forth between chaoser and WBG? It seems genuine, so I doubt it's scum v scum - I can't decide if I think one of them is scum or if they're both town  On February 22 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote: The fact that you haven't paid much attention to chaoser is....interesting. Wouldn't you say that's interesting syllo? lastly, something slightly different but it gives you an idea of the angle VE is coming from: On February 23 2012 10:11 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sheeping you Doc or I would've voted redFF. I trusted you to do the right thing. This comes from the person who voted redFF 3 different times on day 1. This comes from the person who is claiming I am following town sentiment when he called at least (by my count) 8 people scum on day 1, trying to find what would stick. This comes from the person who is trying to lynch me based on being manipulative yet is, without a doubt, trying to manipulate the lynch right now. Proof is above. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:54 prplhz wrote: ##Vote wherebugsgo Funny thing is, I don't even need to make a case. Burden of proof and all that shit. LOL I love this game | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
##unvote Toadesstern ##vote Visceraeyes | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:59 prplhz wrote: I hope you love getting lynched too. nice try scum | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote: alright, so here's my post, let's compare it to what VE has said: Compare that to this shit: lastly, something slightly different but it gives you an idea of the angle VE is coming from: This comes from the person who voted redFF 3 different times on day 1. This comes from the person who is claiming I am following town sentiment when he called at least (by my count) 8 people scum on day 1, trying to find what would stick. This comes from the person who is trying to lynch me based on being manipulative yet is, without a doubt, trying to manipulate the lynch right now. Proof is above. Look! I found a bunch of posts where VE asks people specific questions with context surrounding them, and think I can compare them with a vague buddying attempt I made late D1! What fun - and in this way, I don't have to answer for any of the points raised against me! Callooh Callay!! - WBG's Inner-Voice | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:02 prplhz wrote: Can you quickly reiterate your problems with VisceraEyes? 1-contradicted himself on logic; calls me scum for one thing when he's done it himself at least 6 times 2-pushes responsibility for day 2 lynch onto me despite supposedly agreeing with the sentiment 3-2 day hole in activity from yesterday, says he'll post before lynch but doesn't 4-makes shit case on me based on my first post and the fact that I can be manipulative as scum 5th and most importantly: talks to people as if he already knows their alignment | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote: I can't justify leaving my vote on Toad when prplhz and VE essentially just outted themselves. ##unvote Toadesstern ##vote Visceraeyes why not prplhz instead? Why not RoL instead? We basicly tried to lynch RoL from d2 (or even d1?), he said nothing, basicly claimed mafia recently and we're still not able to lynch him. | ||
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