Storm Mafia - Page 16

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 04:50 GMT

#2527

It's "Veteran" kita, I said "of sorts" because of the conditions that I was immediately forthcoming about with my claim.

What about your role? Does "investigative coward thingy" have a name? Is that going to help me determine if you're the 3rd party?

And I'll tell you what Cwave has been doing with his roleblocks Kita - he's been blocking scum the last 4 nights. You can tell by the distinct lack of hidden red flips.

That pretty much confirms Cwave as town at least for me. Which means that you have to be the third party. Hopefully Cwave is able to block your kill.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 16:55 GMT

#2540

Splendid, now everyone's confused.

-.-

Cwave you don't find it odd that all of a sudden Kita has checked you and you're clean? That doesn't seem a little....convenient to you?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 17:07 GMT

#2541

And what do you mean "compulsive vig" kita? There haven't been extra KP every night, so you're clearly not compulsive.

And you really think that in this setup, the fact that I'm a VETERAN makes me more likely to be 3rd? You're desperate dude.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 17:15 GMT

#2545

So wait...you're saying that you think the Janitor was 1-use? If that's the case then Cwave isn't nearly as confirmed as I thought.

This SUCKS

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 17:19 GMT

#2547

All I know for sure is that I'm a veteran and that between the two of you, I'm more inclined to believe that you're the 3rd party Kita. A coward who investigates is...sketchy at best.

Also, I think that BC was bitter about losing and was trying to lose you the game. If I or Cwave was third, I don't think scum would have called you the third.

I just don't know anymore.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 17:21 GMT

#2548

On March 13 2012 02:16 kitaman27 wrote:
So you're saying you thought the scum team had the ability to hide a flip every cycle?

No, I'm saying I thought it had more than one use - I'd believe like, limited uses but NO flips have been hidden outside of redFF. I assumed Cwave RB'd BC the last 3 nights at least.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 17:33 GMT

#2550

Your checks implicate me and I'm not a 3rd party - logic says that clearly you're not really some kind of investigative role. I'm saying that I think your "checks" are bullshit.

I happened to guess that BloodyC0bbler was scum.
I happened to guess that WBG was scum.
I happened to guess that RoL was scum.

All on D1. Why would I not believe that you 'guessed' that your checks are town? Especially players like Jackal and Toad who were pretty much obvious town.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 17:36 GMT

#2551

You say you provided 'proof' except that your only proof has been people flipping. In what way is that proof of your checks at all?

I posit that you're riding this 'investigative' role to a 3rd party victory. I think your checks have been bullshit and that you're now using the checks to 'confirm' yourself when there's no way to confirm yourself.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 20:41 GMT

#2554

He's saying if he were third party Cwave - it wouldn't be worth the risk as third party to fake the checks. What I'm saying is that I think he's full of shit and that his game is up. Tomorrow. If you RB him, we can lynch him tomorrow. If you don't, you die because he can't target me even if you don't block him - so you're the target tonight whether it's him or me if it's not you.

If you're town, and you want to win this game, blocking Kitaman is the only way we can win. Actually, it's already too late if you haven't...actions were due like 40 minutes ago.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 20:49 GMT

#2559

Kita u so much better than me. This setup is almost not even fair.

How did you live so long? Surely scum tried to kill you yeah? Were you able to communicate with them or something?

OH SHIT YOU WERE IN CONTACT WITH WBG

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 20:59 GMT

#2561

I got them lynched Kita ME.

I've been on the whole scumteam since D1. Can YOU say the same? Sir?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 21:16 GMT

#2563

Cool. Block Kita. We lose otherwise. <3

Kita, you're despicable. The depth of your depravity depresses me deeply.

Did you claim to Bugs? Is that why BC seemed so sure you were 3rd?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 21:44 GMT

#2564

Actually Cwave I feel sorry for you if it's you - a veteran and a coward? You're not winning with that setup. lol

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 22:08 GMT

#2570

Whew.

I mean uh....

Yeah! HAHA! Take that town!

whew

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 22:19 GMT

#2575

Yeah, fun game guys. Thx for hosting.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 22:41 GMT

#2583

Bugs I've got your number bro. Good luck hiding in the future.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 22:43 GMT

#2584

What was the thought-process behind making me non-compulsive Palmar? To make it harder on town?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 22:52 GMT

#2590

Palmar was traitor in Responsibility, not L. FOOL!

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 23:07 GMT

#2595

On March 13 2012 08:05 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and yeah about the bullshitting this game. I tend to do that when the thread goes semi-dead and it forces people to talk.
It's not helping town at all because people will end up thinking I'm retarded or mafia but it's at least helping me out figuring this out. At least that's the reason I was dead certain on WBG, RoL and BC to be mafia, actually should have realized Laya was mafia as well but I was to blinded by my meta-read on VE thinking I got mafia with those 4.

Idk, it's probably really bad to do such a thing, because town has no possibility to judge if I'm mafia doing that on purpose or town doing that on purpose and therefore it's getting really hard for town to correctly judge me but it's really nice from your own reads :p
And well, imo the thread was semi-dead after a bunch of days and pretty much noone was putting effort in this game so I didn't care about bullshitting at that point in time and just went with it to get at least some nice reads myself.

I was putting in effort you little shit.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 12 2012 23:10 GMT

#2598

On March 13 2012 08:07 kitaman27 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 13 2012 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:

On March 13 2012 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar was traitor in Responsibility, not L. FOOL!

Right, my bad.

On March 13 2012 07:59 Toadesstern wrote:

On March 13 2012 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also Toad it doesn't matter that you caught any of us when you singlehandedly were one of the worst players for town.

Saying something like "I don't care that there's third party when they're helping town" is funny in retrospect, but really really dumb.

As town your goal is to kill all nontown, indiscriminately. As the setup is closed you have no idea what you're up against, so you just kill whoeever fits a scum agenda. VE wasn'f playing to his town meta (look at the countercase I built on him d3; 100% of that case, I would repeat as a townie)

Layabout and I tried swinging the town lynch onto VE multiple times.
Ultimately I think we could have approached that differently and potentially gotten him killed for our gain if we opposed the prpl lynch, or bussed RoL. However in terms of self preservation and not knowing 100% at the time it was difficult to make that assessment.

Also something that's funny is that it's really really easy to find third parties as scum. In every scum game I've played that had third party in it, I've caught onto them, with my strongest case often being on them. Ex. MLP tnkted was third party, in L Palmar was traitor, in AC Palmar/Kurumi were third party, and this game with VE.

I guess I should push those reads more strongly in thread and back off the obv town mislynches :p

yeah but we were at lylo. How can people even suggest talking about 3rd parties when we desperatly need to kill mafia first. That's the point. I did not care about 3rd parties as long as there were confirmed mafias around and the 3rd party thing was a guess which, if wrong, would have caused us to insta-lose the game. Even if it was right lynching the 3rd party instead of a mafia could have lost us the game at some point.

Except it should've been obvious there was an SK when two people died (IIRC?)

Also, generally the only way most SKs can die is through lynch. Which means, at that stage in the game, you have to lynch the SK because otherwise you can't kill him.

You can't lynch the sk if it gives the scum team control over the lynch. o.O

This. Once town reached LYLO I knew the game was pretty much mine barring night-action shenanigans.

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