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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 08 2012 02:52 GMT
#821
On February 08 2012 11:51 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:44 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:39 Kurumi wrote:
The only way I can push Your case is to push it indirectly, thus trying to lynch the person You're defending, because I don't see how people are going to suddenly switch a lot of votes to someone while a lot are players from EU.
Kenpachi, I know You're typing my name in vote thread.


lol.

So if Sheth flips town you'll call me scum for "knowing" his alignment?

And if he flips scum, you'll call me scum for defending him too!

I see how this is ^^ too bad I'm like four steps ahead of you.

What's funny is that you say you know no one is going to suddenly switch votes to me because of the number of players from EU (who will probably be sleeping) but you accuse me of reviving a discussion that apparently died while I was asleep.


Town defends Town with fury, power, huge posts and screaming all over the place. Scumbuddies prefer to help each other whispering and lending hands while noone looks.


right.

That's definitely how you defended RG right? rofl.

If you didn't know, I actually defend harder when I'm scum because when I'm scum I already know the alignments. I know for sure as scum that I can defend someone hard because I know they'll flip a certain alignment. That's actually what I do a lot as scum because it makes me look good later when the lynch flips town and I can tell everyone, "yo fuckers I was right listen to me now."

i'm not 100% sure sheth will flip town but I will bet a lot of money he will just based on how many people are bandwagoning him and how absolutely no one besides me is actually defending him.


Would you throw your vote on C_C then please? There is still a chance I won't die tonight....

Oh, that's the right point! Why the guy defending You isn't helping You by voting CC?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 08 2012 02:53 GMT
#822
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking.



On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:
kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots.

Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum:

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player.


Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here.


Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea.


Word
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
February 08 2012 02:53 GMT
#823
On February 08 2012 11:51 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:51 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking. I'm giving my spreadsheet and everything. He has 6 votes, to my 8. If you and me both go to C_C he will die instead of me. Please, I'm not mafia. You're basing this on what others are doing. You think what others are doing is defending me, yet WBG isn't even voting C_C so he clearly doesn't care if I die. I want to have another day to prove myself at least Kurumi.

Another day to prove Yourself? Deal.


Thank you. I do appreciate it. As my last match of MLG is tonight, I'll have tomorrow to spend a lot more time on this.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
February 08 2012 02:54 GMT
#824
On February 08 2012 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:40 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:37 Kurumi wrote:
Also, compare Your defense of Sheth to my defense of Schworz.


yours is shit and mine is actually articulated and thought out?


My defense somehow made people not vote him, while Yours was so slight and slim noone noticed it. That's why it's called soft-defense.


LOL so you're trying to take credit for people unvoting RG?

LOLOLOL


Can I take that credit? iirc I was probably the first person to defend him....But Idk cuz it was my first or second post of this game. I couldn't really keep posting but his first post this game just SCREAMED town at me. I'd like to nominate Dr. H, Radfield, Kita, and Myself (even though I'm not a great player ;-; ) for death. That is all. One of those cheap skates is gonna kill one of us.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 08 2012 02:55 GMT
#825
On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking.



Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:
kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots.

Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum:

On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player.


Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?

On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here.


Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea.


Word

I need to bang myself with a grenade. That's the same fucking thing I used to defend Schworz, even brought up the amazingxkcd thing.
WHY AM I SO FUCKING TERRIBLE.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 08 2012 02:57 GMT
#826
On February 08 2012 11:55 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking.



On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:
kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots.

Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum:

On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player.


Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?

On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here.


Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea.


Word

I need to bang myself with a grenade. That's the same fucking thing I used to defend Schworz, even brought up the amazingxkcd thing.
WHY AM I SO FUCKING TERRIBLE.


and you wonder why I'm laughing at your post about the RG defense?

hahahaha this is classic
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
February 08 2012 02:58 GMT
#827
Moving my vote to C_C due to reservations against wanting sheth dead just yet...Just....Yet....

K, I'ma start swimming. Gotta go pick up my dress pants and button up after I finish in this disgusting joker fish water.....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 08 2012 02:58 GMT
#828
On February 08 2012 11:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:55 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking.



On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:
kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots.

Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum:

On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player.


Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?

On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here.


Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea.


Word

I need to bang myself with a grenade. That's the same fucking thing I used to defend Schworz, even brought up the amazingxkcd thing.
WHY AM I SO FUCKING TERRIBLE.


and you wonder why I'm laughing at your post about the RG defense?

hahahaha this is classic

I blame it being 4am and me trying to play a good game and failing miserably
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#829
I could go after I voted qualis because that's the thing I am left with again.
The only thing I am certain of now because I haven't overthought it.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
February 08 2012 03:01 GMT
#830
On February 08 2012 11:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Moving my vote to C_C due to reservations against wanting sheth dead just yet...Just....Yet....

K, I'ma start swimming. Gotta go pick up my dress pants and button up after I finish in this disgusting joker fish water.....

This won't do.If you don't think I'm scum, vote someone who is. You said something about DocH, that's one of the people I'm happy with. So.
##Unvote Chaoser
##Vote Doctor Helvetica
/phone is bad for mafia
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#831
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

Proper voting format is

##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#832
On February 08 2012 12:01 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Moving my vote to C_C due to reservations against wanting sheth dead just yet...Just....Yet....

K, I'ma start swimming. Gotta go pick up my dress pants and button up after I finish in this disgusting joker fish water.....

This won't do.If you don't think I'm scum, vote someone who is. You said something about DocH, that's one of the people I'm happy with. So.
##Unvote Chaoser
##Vote Doctor Helvetica
/phone is bad for mafia


the fuck
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#833
may change it still
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
February 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#834
On February 08 2012 12:02 evantrees wrote:
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

Proper voting format is

##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?


not an issue
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#835
Got my internet back. I'll read everything I missed but by the time I'm done with that it'll likely be night. Please remember that if Cyber_Cheese flips scum it does not clear anyone who accused him or voted for him in the slightest.

RIP Aaliyah
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#836
On February 08 2012 10:27 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:24 chaoser wrote:
Oh and he never puts any pressure at all on layabout.

I would like to lynch layabout or wherebugsgo. If we manage to do that, the other one dies during the Night.
Can You help me swing the lynch?


On February 08 2012 10:28 Kurumi wrote:
I think that neither Sheth or C_C are mafia.


On February 08 2012 10:30 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:29 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:23 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm here still somewhat. Checking in in between games. I've tried my best as town and given you the reads I do have. As lynches go, I'm still the surest on VisceraEyes being mafia. Hopefully we can get some more to change there mind about me. I'm fighting guys, I'm not mafia. Don't lynch me.

C_C or switch?


I'm not getting any votes switched on to VE, so to me it looks like tonight it will probably be either me or C_C. I'd rather switch Kurumi(go on to VE),but others won't, so I won't blame you either way. I know I'm not mafia, so we can kill CC and have a chance at Mafia. You've seen my arguments against him, and they aren't great. But I do think his claiming Joker come out is a bit crazy.

What do You think about layabout?


On February 08 2012 10:35 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm not sure I like a CC lynch. It is pretty rare for a scum to post a plan guiding town's direction and generating discussion on day one. His thoughts about RG/Hugo don't really make much sense, but are they scummy? I haven't had a chance to read Sheth though, but I'll post again in a bit. If I don't like him, I'll try to suggest an alternate candidate (likely ico or kurumi).

Yeaaaaaah.. about my lynch.. There are two people who I'd consider really scummy who are voting me right now.. Bill Murray and layabout. Are You sure this is going to work out? Well, You're probably considering this because I am not trolling.


On February 08 2012 10:36 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
I really like a Cyber_Cheese lynch right now, actually. I've been ignoring most of his posts because I generally do that when someone posts like he does. Every game so far I've simply assumed Cyber Cheese is bad, but he's played enough to know by now not to play like this as town. Look at the post above this one : it's a running theme for CC to post absolutely spineless posts, with distinct lack of opinion and contribution.

I don't think RG should get off the hook so easily for claiming DT, but it definitely is not a good idea to kill him today when the chance is very strong that he is just really terrible.

Also I love you chaoser. He's the only one in thread so far who's had the balls to say what he thinks.

Lastly, the sheth lynch: what I don't like is how fast his wagon picked up and how literally no one has defended him. His defense of himself has been rather poor, but having only played one town game, I can see him doing this if he were town. Ofc, I was scum when he was town, so perhaps I'm biased.

I want to hear thoughts on this wagon. Palmar, Radfield, Dr. H, chaoser: what do you make of sheth receiving so many votes so quickly?

##unvote

##vote Cyber_Cheese

This post seems strange for two reasons.
1) You didn't tunnel anyone yet? That's all I've ever seen you do as town.
2) For someone calling me out on 'spineless posts', you don't seem to be putting much effort into the accusation.

The funny thing is he thinks You're bad and ignored Your posts and said Your posts have nothing of substance without backing it up, then soft-defends Sheth calling him New Town for no reason, because a) Sheth played a lot of RL mafia
b) Then, he is not new to the concept of mafia
wait this might be a breakthrough
I might vote Sheth.


On February 08 2012 10:52 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:49 chaoser wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:39 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:37 chaoser wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm not sure I like a CC lynch. It is pretty rare for a scum to post a plan guiding town's direction and generating discussion on day one. His thoughts about RG/Hugo don't really make much sense, but are they scummy? I haven't had a chance to read Sheth though, but I'll post again in a bit. If I don't like him, I'll try to suggest an alternate candidate (likely ico or kurumi).


LSB did it in the hammer game I just played in.

On February 08 2012 10:27 Kurumi wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:24 chaoser wrote:
Oh and he never puts any pressure at all on layabout.

I would like to lynch layabout or wherebugsgo. If we manage to do that, the other one dies during the Night.
Can You help me swing the lynch?


lol no. WBG isn't even CLOSE to looking scummy to me. layabout either. I just said tunkeg is scummy to me. Those are your two choices if you're trying to get me to switch. CC or tunkeg. Take your pick.

Go Sheth. WBG is soft-defending him like he isn't.
Also, meta.
WBG is a lot more aggressive as town, a little as mafia but. He's REALLY active, like, being always on.


This part is pure meta. And it's not even good meta. In the last few games WBG has been in, he's been a lot less active. And he's been town. That's a bullshit reason for thinking the guy is scummy.

Also, when you say go sheth, do you mean you want me to switch my vote to sheth?

I said it's meta. That's just unlikely for me to see WBG somehow not trying.. coupled that with soft-defending some people...
Yes, I'd like You to vote Sheth.


On February 08 2012 11:03 Kurumi wrote:
Look:
My strongest scum read is WBG.
He came to the thread, made Toad case, then changed his mind and made Schworz case making two people change their vote and basically say "I agree", when the discussion on this guy was pretty much dead and irrevelant. Then he goes for CC, again weak case and bullshit argument.
No big efforts and backed up by scummy people.
Also, his case on Toad was built on basis that Toad had seen nothing wrong with DrH, while WBG does not comment himself on the case.


On February 08 2012 11:59 Kurumi wrote:
I could go after I voted qualis because that's the thing I am left with again.
The only thing I am certain of now because I haven't overthought it.


wtf...you change your read every five minutes...You went from layabout being your best read (asking me to vote for him) to WBG being your strongest read (and yet not voting for him) to saying qualis is all you "have left".

all the while you're pairs your scum reads together. If taken all together, you have basically said you have figured out every single scum.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
February 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#837
I'm still not a huge fan of either of the major lynches. I'll switch to ico for now. My case was posted earlier in the thread. Sixty minutes is a lot of time and the votes counts are relatively low so we aren't stuck with the current two candidates if we agree there is someone better out there.

chaoser/bugs/radfield trio gives me the creeps, but that's for another time.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#838
@chaoser:

the most damning thing about Kurumi is not actually that he changes his mind, but this:

On February 08 2012 11:03 Kurumi wrote:
Look:
My strongest scum read is WBG.
He came to the thread, made Toad case, then changed his mind and made Schworz case making two people change their vote and basically say "I agree", when the discussion on this guy was pretty much dead and irrevelant. Then he goes for CC, again weak case and bullshit argument.
No big efforts and backed up by scummy people.
Also, his case on Toad was built on basis that Toad had seen nothing wrong with DrH, while WBG does not comment himself on the case.


the fact that he's constantly changing his mind every few minutes and at the same time implying that it's scummy for me to change my mind even once is suspicious as hell.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#839
On February 08 2012 12:08 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm still not a huge fan of either of the major lynches. I'll switch to ico for now. My case was posted earlier in the thread. Sixty minutes is a lot of time and the votes counts are relatively low so we aren't stuck with the current two candidates if we agree there is someone better out there.

chaoser/bugs/radfield trio gives me the creeps, but that's for another time.


u gf this game bro?

kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
February 08 2012 03:10 GMT
#840
kurumi, if you're trying to blue claim to dodge the lynch, give us a name. You already claimed vig so its not like its going to make the scum less likely to hit you and if you're not counter-claimed, you can shut down all this lynch discussion and focus on what's important.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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