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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:14 GMT
#2401
On February 12 2012 22:12 layabout wrote:
I would like somebody to consolidate the case against ico/razerflash and present it

I would like people to comment on Kitaman27, jaybrundage tyrran and Kurumi.
+ Show Spoiler +
and by "i would like" i mean "do it motherf*****s

I killed Wherebugsgo
Anyway, I think You actually might be town.
And yes, You could do thing described in the first sentence in Your post.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 13:14 GMT
#2402
Ok here's the thing about Schworz. He's not making sense at all and contradicts himself. He knows about my role even before I claimed so I figured he has to have a DT power. Here we go:

On February 09 2012 06:26 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I want to uncover why Toad is lying.
There was no other way to point out that Toad is lying except claiming.
Toad chose a role that was unlikely to be counterclaimed, in the person of Two-Face.
But I really do mind about it.

We already talked about this. This makes no sense as Two-Face. If someone else is claiming two-face, so be it. It's not like he should care at all. I did the same when Palmar claimed Joker. He obviously was trying to defend me the whole game, same with Kurumi and they still do although I think it's kind of pointless right now. Forumite pointed it out:
If he really is Two-Face he should have shut his mouth and be happy that someone else wants to take a hit or shut his mouth because someone is trying to unmask the real Two-Face.

On February 09 2012 06:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, you are CW or a VT|Vet, whos playing stupid.
Leaning towards CW atm, because you claimed at a point where some claims happened and sneaking in the ,,blues,, as a VT|Vet makes a tiny bit of sense, but not much, as there were a ton of targets for scum and CW.

That's what I got from him a lot. If he thinks I'm either CW or a VT/VET he should have shut up, as I mentioned earlier. Now this is even worse, because it's not only talking about how it's bad to claim Two-Face but also he ADMITS, there is a good chance I'm going to be a VT/Vet trying to help. If he thinks there is a good chance that that might happen, why claim?
Best-case: He outed himself as Two-Face and maybe a few people will believe that I actually am CW. I am going to shoot him, and still probably won't get lynched because again, ever CW would have hit that, not only me.
Worst-case:He outed himself as Two-Face and outed a VET so mafia no longer has to shoot me.
It's just not making sense from a Two-Face perspective.

On February 09 2012 06:30 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I m taking a stance. Toad is lying, ergo he is CW or VT|Vet.

The very same thing again. "He is thirdparty or Town, THEREFORE I HAVE TO UNCOVER TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL SEE THIS"....

On February 10 2012 01:05 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I'm not dead because catwoman didn't shoot last night.
She prolly DT'ed me thou gh.
I'm Catfood tonight barring Catwoman being a lurker/inactive.
Don't medic me tonite. Useless

Here we go. He's not dead. Why? According to him because CW dt'ed him. So if CW dt'ed him and instead of shooting and you still stick to your Two-Face claim, why are you still alive? If she dt'ed you she should have found Two-Face and should have at least shot you BY NOW. So again Schworz, why are you still alive?

On February 10 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Man, I perfectly understand why you would lynch sheth today.
I m also up for lynching sheth, mainly because he posts fluff and irrelevant stuff.
QT is full of scum. I do not fear getting lynched, anyways I know what to do Night 2.
If im getting lynched because Clayface does not want to claim so be it.

Medics get off me ASAP. Toad doesn t understand I ll be catfood tonight.
When I flip, please lynch this liar= DocH.

I understand that BM got roleblocked. I strongly trust BM at this point, I believe him to be the most town.
So, 2 kills without any prot.
Scum single-stacked Jackal, because they RB BM.
Rad claimed hit, but I don t believe he s a vet since he claims DT.
So, most likely one of our vigs hit him,else hes a Veteran.
Therefore , I m inclined to think CW didnt shoot.
Therefore she DT ed me.
Therefore I die tonight. Bye, Bye, Bye

Wait what? BM is his stronges townread? BM claimed unroleblockable medic that got roleblocked and therefore was not able to protect Jackal altough he said "NOONE PROTECT OUR BLUE JACKAL, I GOT THIS". You're telling me that guy is you're stronges townread and I am, together with DocH a bady because we're liars? What's wrong with yoou.
Again he said CW obviously DT'ed him and he's still alive.

On February 10 2012 15:54 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
She is also incredibly good at fooling people with her Allure and access to materials to make the perfect disguise. As such she can appear to be any role in the game. She wins when two face and penguin are eliminated.


Catwoman/Batman got all the role PM s in the game.
They are not playing without info.

Therefore Toad is 90 %CW, not town.
He set up this thing with DocH, who probably is Clayface.
Toad, if you are town, please aswer this: Do you know anything about Harley Quinn?


Scum aren t being very active and are probably confused themselves right now.
If Sheth flips red, it would
certainly explain some things. Even better if he flips Strange.

Tell me, how did you know that if you did not DT the joker, found out he's the joker and therefore know you've got to ask about harley Quinn? You have a DT power and you knew I am the joker all along.

On February 11 2012 00:31 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, you re making it harder and harder for me to play.
Why don t you please go through my filter, and believe me?
It would make both our livesand town s job easier

I think I explained my problem with beliaving a word you say in this post pretty good.

On February 11 2012 01:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town.
CW is my humble opinion.
I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town.
So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.

Back to Toad has to be CW. Asnwer me this one: Why are you not dead if I am CW?
On February 11 2012 01:20 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I know I am irrelevant, Palmar, but I have a great chance of dying tonight.
So, I have to post in case these are my last posts

surprising you're still alive given you said that every single night.
On February 11 2012 01:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Apart from Toad being Poison Ivy, and DocH claiming Clayface, I dont ,,understand,, the Doc/Toad relationship.
Seems Doc is a temporary shield for Toad or Toad s a vet himself.

Now I'm poisan ivy. He knows that I know he got a DT power and wants to pull a Palmar / Kurumi on me.

I could go on with posts like this:
On February 11 2012 01:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
JayJay, I should be dead tonight.
I have an explanation for why I am not dead already.
Toad is CW, and he thought i wasn t stupid enough to have Trueclaimed.
Either he DT ed me, and I m dead tonight, or he ll hit me next.

but they're pretty much the same ALL THE TIME.

I really don't know what to think about schworz... I really think we have to lynch him but I don't think he's the right lynch for today.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#2403
You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck.


Wrong. If he´s scum, he will deny it. That only works if chaoser has a PR, if he´s vanilla he won´t claim scum, if he is scum he´ll claim vanilla.

Your arguments are wrong.

Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#2404
@kurumi: no one claimed, and I believe they only get notified when the save was successful.

@rG: You made no case at all. Your claim that I am being scum is based on nothing than I am accusing you (and me being bluefishing for a role I already knew). I believe, you'd find yourself scummy, if you looked at your filter, bro.

Please, make a case against me, I want to see some illreasoning
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 12 2012 13:18 GMT
#2405
On February 12 2012 21:08 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.

What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong?


why would he do that as town? are you thick?

as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense.

In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town.

It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives.


btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him.


wow it's really easy to become confirmed town these days.

1. Every scum accuse strongly each other.
2. One scum dies.
3. ????
4. Profit.

lol
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:18 GMT
#2406
I believe we have no medic present in the game and Bill Murray is Hugo Strange.
Also:
I believe Schworz is a veteran.
Uhh, anything else?
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 12 2012 13:19 GMT
#2407
Oh how I wish there were PM's in this game -_-

Lets ignore rG for the moment, who is on the table for today's lynch.

I still think Ico/rayzorflash will flip red.
Evantrees is probably red.
Tyrran too.

All of them were on the Cheese mislynch, for lousy reasons, and as a result helped to keep sheth alive.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 13:19 GMT
#2408
On February 12 2012 22:15 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck.


Wrong. If he´s scum, he will deny it. That only works if chaoser has a PR, if he´s vanilla he won´t claim scum, if he is scum he´ll claim vanilla.

Your arguments are wrong.



That's just not true. If you DT check him as RED. We'll most likely lynch him. Thus, his claim don't matter at this point.

And again: what was your check n1?? Why are you dodging this question so much?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:19 GMT
#2409
On February 12 2012 22:18 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 21:08 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.

What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong?


why would he do that as town? are you thick?

as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense.

In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town.

It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives.


btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him.


wow it's really easy to become confirmed town these days.

1. Every scum accuse strongly each other.
2. One scum dies.
3. ????
4. Profit.

lol

That's amazing contribution, Mr. Active-lurking Hugo.
Off to the voting thread!
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:22 GMT
#2410
On February 12 2012 22:19 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 22:15 rgTheSchworz wrote:
You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck.


Wrong. If he´s scum, he will deny it. That only works if chaoser has a PR, if he´s vanilla he won´t claim scum, if he is scum he´ll claim vanilla.

Your arguments are wrong.



That's just not true. If you DT check him as RED. We'll most likely lynch him. Thus, his claim don't matter at this point.

And again: what was your check n1?? Why are you dodging this question so much?

He's not a fucking DT, he's either Vet or Batman.
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rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 13:23 GMT
#2411
Toad, the only scum with a DT power is Ra´s. He´s dead.
I might be Batman, it would make sense.
I would have claimed two-face and if I KNEW all Role-Pm´s like I think BM and CW do, I would have known you were the Joker from what you posted.
Since you were confident you were immortal, I should have figured out that I got to get DocH lynched to get you killed.
Figure, DocH is dead now.What you gonna do? What you gonna do when Batman comes for you?

It makes sense to fake the first claim as Batman.
I´d also say it makes sense to state that I did DT chaoser last night.
Why release the result if I´m Batman?No sense.


Make up your mind. Either I have DT ability or I´m scum. Those two are mutually exclusive now.




Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 12 2012 13:24 GMT
#2412
JayJay, for someone who figured out toads role as fast as I did, you should be able to figure out rG's role equally as quickly.

Otherwise, you're just being belligerent because you're scum.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:25 GMT
#2413
Yeah Schworz confirmed for Batman.
Eeeeeey Radfield, what'cha doin'?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:28 GMT
#2414
Toad why did You shoot Opz?
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 13:29 GMT
#2415
On February 12 2012 22:24 Adam4167 wrote:
JayJay, for someone who figured out toads role as fast as I did, you should be able to figure out rG's role equally as quickly.

Otherwise, you're just being belligerent because you're scum.


is that some sort of riddler game here? :D

I'll try to look through his filter again, looking for clues. Right now my spreadshit says "KILL IT WITH FIRE". I am sorry to disappoint you

kurumi: why would batman claim DT and risk being roleblocked if he can just stay quiet.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 13:31 GMT
#2416
Adam, would you please shut up. Pretty please??
I think scum are revealing themselves.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 13:33 GMT
#2417
On February 12 2012 22:28 Kurumi wrote:
Toad why did You shoot Opz?

Thought if chaoser is a mafia he's going to be protected anyways given how much I talked about him yesterday.
My 2nd and 3rd best reads were hiro + opz and the coin told me to kill opz!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#2418
Shooting Hiro would have been a much better choice......
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#2419
On February 12 2012 22:13 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 22:10 Forumite wrote:
On February 12 2012 22:01 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Wait, if I announce the result, what does town gain?
Tell me and I will do it.
Right now, no one will believe me.
Either I die, which seems not to be the case atm, or you will have them.
Its preetty obvious if I strongly oppose a lynch. And there are certain night-flips that can confirm my role.

If you claim the check then you might gain credibility, especially if Chaoser confirms it. You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck.

By the way, who was your Night 1 rolecheck target?

Hey Forumite, I am going to trust You because wbg put You on the kill list.
What do You think about Bill Murray?
Do You think we'll get some fresh news from Radfield?
Who's good lynch today?

BM is lurking, lying, created the fiasco with jackal Night 1, but he has claimed, and noone has counterclaimed yet. That makes him a later problem for me.
I no longer believe Radfield+Palmar are scum together, which means that Radfield is either one of our DTs, or the Bat. I´m expecting fresh news, not necessarily a checked scum though.
I want to see what rg has for us, if nothing then I´m not sure. The baseline for scummyness in this game is so high that it´s impossible to find anti-town elements among those who troll and fakeclaim.
:3
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#2420
On February 12 2012 22:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 22:24 Adam4167 wrote:
JayJay, for someone who figured out toads role as fast as I did, you should be able to figure out rG's role equally as quickly.

Otherwise, you're just being belligerent because you're scum.


is that some sort of riddler game here? :D

I'll try to look through his filter again, looking for clues. Right now my spreadshit says "KILL IT WITH FIRE". I am sorry to disappoint you

kurumi: why would batman claim DT and risk being roleblocked if he can just stay quiet.

There are bigger fish in the sea than the Batman for scum. Scum are fighting with Town, not with 3rd parties. Especially CW.
Anyway.. Mafia has 3KP, 3rd Parties have 2KP and Toad said he used his KP.
6KP, 3 dead.
If Batman used DT check, it's 5KP, 3 dead.
Still not quite right.
If someone soaked a hit, it's 5KP and 3 dead and 1 guy hit.
Still 1 KP missing, where is it?
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