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On February 12 2012 21:08 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong? why would he do that as town? are you thick? as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense. In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town. It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives. btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him. wow it's really easy to become confirmed town these days. 1. Every scum accuse strongly each other. 2. One scum dies. 3. ???? 4. Profit.
it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it?
Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters.
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
So far my night action record tells me to just lynch the guy who ended up being 2nd mosts legit target for my nighthit and not the guy I actually shot. Sounds like a plan to me.
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On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:08 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong? why would he do that as town? are you thick? as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense. In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town. It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives. btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him. wow it's really easy to become confirmed town these days. 1. Every scum accuse strongly each other. 2. One scum dies. 3. ???? 4. Profit. it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it? Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters. It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser. So far my night action record tells me to just lynch the guy who ended up being 2nd mosts legit target for my nighthit and not the guy I actually shot. Sounds like a plan to me.
You're not the joker, you're scum. You roleblocked me last night because I said I was going to shoot you. Why would I ever be roleblocked if you weren't scum? It was pretty clear I was going to shoot you.
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On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it?
WIFOM. I just don't see this as a big enough town tell to justify all of falseclaims...sorry. My vote will stay there.
On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters.
You don't know if / how he was protected. If mafia tripplestacked there could be number from 0-2 protecting him. You also forget the possibility of scum shooting third.
On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green.
Hiro is still a good choice (since no one questions rG).
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On February 12 2012 21:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 21:08 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong? why would he do that as town? are you thick? as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense. In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town. It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives. btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him. wow it's really easy to become confirmed town these days. 1. Every scum accuse strongly each other. 2. One scum dies. 3. ???? 4. Profit. it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it? Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters. It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser. So far my night action record tells me to just lynch the guy who ended up being 2nd mosts legit target for my nighthit and not the guy I actually shot. Sounds like a plan to me. You're not the joker, you're scum. You roleblocked me last night because I said I was going to shoot you. Why would I ever be roleblocked if you weren't scum? It was pretty clear I was going to shoot you.
oh hai there batman, how are things?
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On February 12 2012 21:27 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it? WIFOM. I just don't see this as a big enough town tell to justify all of falseclaims...sorry. My vote will stay there. Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters. You don't know if / how he was protected. If mafia tripplestacked there could be number from 0-2 protecting him. You also forget the possibility of scum shooting third. Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green. Hiro is still a good choice (since no one questions rG).
the fuck? I missed the post where he said he checked chaoser.
Of course falseclaim is bullshit as town, it is bullshit as no matter what. I just think if he'd mafia people would have told him not to do that. But that check on chaoser is something new. Why did he check chaoser out of all people? The only reason I believe him to be town was because I thought he checked either me or docH, found Joker and didn't believe his check, therefore jumped to the conclusion that the guy has to be godfather / third party. Which is obviously bad play.
But check chaoser? If he is SO CERTAIN that clayface is red so that he makes up a fakeclaim to "prove" he's red, why did he check chaoser instead? It's not like he found something weird in chaoser and instantly goes "OMFG I found X in chaoser, therefore Toad has to be mafia which leads to the conclusion that DocH is mafia as well! I'ma goinf to make up a fake check".
That makes no sense at all. I am seriously considering him again. But than again... wbg attacked him, he got coaching from good players if he ends up being red and I doubt BC would give a third party role to someone like him (no hard feeling^^).
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On February 12 2012 21:27 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green.
What? When? Didn't rg only fakeclaim checking DocH?
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Link
Right here.
Only happened 2 pages ago, but alas, it got spammed away.
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On February 12 2012 21:35 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:27 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it? WIFOM. I just don't see this as a big enough town tell to justify all of falseclaims...sorry. My vote will stay there. On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters. You don't know if / how he was protected. If mafia tripplestacked there could be number from 0-2 protecting him. You also forget the possibility of scum shooting third. On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green. Hiro is still a good choice (since no one questions rG). the fuck? I missed the post where he said he checked chaoser. Of course falseclaim is bullshit as town, it is bullshit as no matter what. I just think if he'd mafia people would have told him not to do that. But that check on chaoser is something new. Why did he check chaoser out of all people? The only reason I believe him to be town was because I thought he checked either me or docH, found Joker and didn't believe his check, therefore jumped to the conclusion that the guy has to be godfather / third party. Which is obviously bad play. But check chaoser? If he is SO CERTAIN that clayface is red so that he makes up a fakeclaim to "prove" he's red, why did he check chaoser instead? It's not like he found something weird in chaoser and instantly goes "OMFG I found X in chaoser, therefore Toad has to be mafia which leads to the conclusion that DocH is mafia as well! I'ma goinf to make up a fake check". That makes no sense at all. I am seriously considering him again. But than again... wbg attacked him, he got coaching from good players if he ends up being red and I doubt BC would give a third party role to someone like him (no hard feeling^^).
He is no third party, third party doesn't claim DT.
I love how the only defense this guy has is that he was accused by a scum (who accused like a 10 people throughout the game, the chances they are all town are pretty thin) and that his play would be better if he got coaches.
His first DT check makes perfect sense as scum. This play might actually be coached.
If he checked you, why didn't he confirm you as the joker? It makes zero sense.
rG if you are DT, who did you check night one? Please?
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On February 12 2012 21:40 Adam4167 wrote:LinkRight here. Only happened 2 pages ago, but alas, it got spammed away.
ok so it's either both are town or both a mafia isn't it?
If he's mafia he could say something like that and people would say "well if he's not telling us the result it got to be a blue or green check", therefore defending his buddy after people like me said we should probably reconsider his case.
HOWEVER, if he really is town the check should be true and it's really two townies...
Screw, now that Clayface flipped I may present you a few posts that made me think we should reconsider schworz. Give me a second.
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I didnt announce the result and won t till i gain credibility.
Right now scum like JayJay can Very easily talk about it.
It won t be believed.
Im keeping it for when there is a night action that can demonstrate my role.
Since scum decided not to focus on me, so be it.
They want to lynch me, wasting a day.
They re getting uncovered atm.
Stop listening to scum.
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Btw , it s a N2 check. N2 I did check Chaoser.
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On February 12 2012 21:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I didnt announce the result and won t till i gain credibility.
Right now scum like JayJay can Very easily talk about it.
It won t be believed.
Im keeping it for when there is a night action that can demonstrate my role.
Since scum decided not to focus on me, so be it.
They want to lynch me, wasting a day.
They re getting uncovered atm.
Stop listening to scum.
I think i hate you
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you are kidding right?
If you are REALLY town and I doubt it, this is the worst play I have ever seen.
Claiming DT, Falseclaiming Check (to save Sheth), retracting check after something pops up which makes your claim unlikely. Then Claiming another check, but refusing to say so (maybe hoping for chaoser to get lynched, so you can claim "I knew that" . Wow. That's quite an idea.
so you are a dt, I assume you checked somebody night 1, too? I am not talking about your n2 check.
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Wait, if I announce the result, what does town gain?
Tell me and I will do it.
Right now, no one will believe me.
Either I die, which seems not to be the case atm, or you will have them.
Its preetty obvious if I strongly oppose a lynch. And there are certain night-flips that can confirm my role.
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Now that I am no longer intent on spreading confusion, someone comes in the shape of JayJay and starts putting me up for lynches.It´s no OMGUS, IMO I lived as long as I have because scum wont risk wasting a hit, for fear I might be a vanilla or something and try to take me out through the thread.
I am not going to make someone life easier, especially when that someone hasnt been extremely active so far and starts shitposting after confusion has been dispersed.
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I have a question:
Was there someone protected by a medic through entire game?
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On February 12 2012 22:01 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Wait, if I announce the result, what does town gain?
Tell me and I will do it.
Right now, no one will believe me.
Either I die, which seems not to be the case atm, or you will have them.
Its preetty obvious if I strongly oppose a lynch. And there are certain night-flips that can confirm my role.
If you claim the check then you might gain credibility, especially if Chaoser confirms it. You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck.
By the way, who was your Night 1 rolecheck target?
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I would like somebody to consolidate the case against ico/razerflash and present it
I would like people to comment on Kitaman27, jaybrundage tyrran and Kurumi.
+ Show Spoiler +and by "i would like" i mean "do it motherf*****s
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On February 12 2012 22:06 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Now that I am no longer intent on spreading confusion, someone comes in the shape of JayJay and starts putting me up for lynches.It´s no OMGUS, IMO I lived as long as I have because scum wont risk wasting a hit, for fear I might be a vanilla or something and try to take me out through the thread.
I am not going to make someone life easier, especially when that someone hasnt been extremely active so far and starts shitposting after confusion has been dispersed.
You have no idea why scum hasn´t killed you yet.
Why won´t you say what you got on the rolecheck? If he was an anti-town role then there´s no reason not to claim it.
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On February 12 2012 22:10 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 22:01 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Wait, if I announce the result, what does town gain?
Tell me and I will do it.
Right now, no one will believe me.
Either I die, which seems not to be the case atm, or you will have them.
Its preetty obvious if I strongly oppose a lynch. And there are certain night-flips that can confirm my role. If you claim the check then you might gain credibility, especially if Chaoser confirms it. You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck. By the way, who was your Night 1 rolecheck target?
Hey Forumite, I am going to trust You because wbg put You on the kill list.
What do You think about Bill Murray?
Do You think we'll get some fresh news from Radfield?
Who's good lynch today?
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