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On January 04 2012 12:11 gonzaw wrote:So this is your first forum game ever? Not just first game on TL? You seem to know quite a bit about the game though, may explain why? Also, I'm fairly good with statistics/probabilities myself (just ask Jackal58), and I use them fairly in mafia games. If the situation arises, it can be very helpful, as long as everything in the game is RNGed. I assume this setup is RNGed, right? Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 12:06 Probulous wrote:
That is a good point Jitsu.
As I have stated, I am aiming for a mafia lynch. Only if I believe that we are headed for a miss-lynch will I advocate a no-lynch.
Again, where are the other US guys?
Sheth, Gretorp? You're asking for a vote. The day is 48 horus long, right? I would suggest pressure voting lurkers/inactives after 24 hours or so are past. Although I don't know if you guys do that here or not.
Yeah, it's my first forum game ever. Haven't played this anywhere else either. I've read through quite a bunch of advanced games on different forums though, and I generally consider myself good at mindgames or understanding what people think / why they do something etc. So I'm really excited to see if it's correlates to success in here. Yeah, you heard right, watch out mafia!
I am going to sleep now though. I will re-read the thread (especially the new posts) a few times once I wake up and will try to join in as much as I can. If you have a hard time of trying to find out who is scum, then please do the town a favor and at least try to find some most-likely-town reads, since even that will help us narrow down the possible lynch.
I do agree that we could pressure vote lurkers/inactives later on in D1, hopefully forcing them to defend themselves and give us better reads.
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We get more information because SOMEONE still gets scum-killed. The hypothetical you in this conversation gets no additional information because they already knew who the town is.
@Gonz I am going on the assumption that any inactives will be talking in a hurry before the 24hour mark is up. I'm very interested to see who pipe's up just before the noose gets tied
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On January 04 2012 12:11 gonzaw wrote:
I assume this setup is RNGed, right?
What is RNG? Don't forget this is a newbie game...
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Random-Number-Generated:
Check this out for more terms under the "terminology"
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RNG = Random Number Generator or close. It implies that this setup is completely random, picked by a computer.
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Also, instead of typing [edit} you can type EBWOP (Edit By Way of Post), thats what everyone does.
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@Probulous Gretorp + Xeris have played 0 online games before. They've played with me offline before however, so we'll have some IRL experience and tells on each other. I brought them into the game and I hope they'll post soon. They haven't answered me on skype to get over here yet.
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On January 04 2012 12:23 CookieMaker wrote:
We get more information because SOMEONE still gets scum-killed. The hypothetical you in this conversation gets no additional information because they already knew who the town is.
@Gonz I am going on the assumption that any inactives will be talking in a hurry before the 24hour mark is up. I'm very interested to see who pipe's up just before the noose gets tied
What I gathered from the games I played is, there are always inactive players, and even if you threaten to pressure vote them, or actually pressure vote them, they remain inactive for a time.
At least it will guarantee they will not remain inactive the whole day, since if they do they get lynched.
Also, if an "inactive" player "talks in a hurry before the 24hour mark is up", why would he do that?
That seems like a lurking scum not wanting any pressure on him whatsoever, and rushing in to not being voted, so even that gives us info.
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Thanks CookieMaker for the link. And you're right Sheth, if I am leaning toward no lynch that would be a red flag for scum. But wouldn't emphatically being in favor of a lynch be a red flag for scum too since the odds are in favor of townie being accidentally chosen? Oh God this is gonna be so meta.
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On January 04 2012 12:21 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 12:11 gonzaw wrote:So this is your first forum game ever? Not just first game on TL? You seem to know quite a bit about the game though, may explain why? Also, I'm fairly good with statistics/probabilities myself (just ask Jackal58), and I use them fairly in mafia games. If the situation arises, it can be very helpful, as long as everything in the game is RNGed. I assume this setup is RNGed, right? On January 04 2012 12:06 Probulous wrote:
That is a good point Jitsu.
As I have stated, I am aiming for a mafia lynch. Only if I believe that we are headed for a miss-lynch will I advocate a no-lynch.
Again, where are the other US guys?
Sheth, Gretorp? You're asking for a vote. The day is 48 horus long, right? I would suggest pressure voting lurkers/inactives after 24 hours or so are past. Although I don't know if you guys do that here or not. Yeah, it's my first forum game ever. Haven't played this anywhere else either. I've read through quite a bunch of advanced games on different forums though, and I generally consider myself good at mindgames or understanding what people think / why they do something etc. So I'm really excited to see if it's correlates to success in here. Yeah, you heard right, watch out mafia! I am going to sleep now though. I will re-read the thread (especially the new posts) a few times once I wake up and will try to join in as much as I can. If you have a hard time of trying to find out who is scum, then please do the town a favor and at least try to find some most-likely-town reads, since even that will help us narrow down the possible lynch. I do agree that we could pressure vote lurkers/inactives later on in D1, hopefully forcing them to defend themselves and give us better reads.
Interesting.
If you are town, I really hope you are right about you being "good at mindgames".
If you are scum I really hope you aren't.
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On January 04 2012 12:23 CookieMaker wrote:
We get more information because SOMEONE still gets scum-killed. The hypothetical you in this conversation gets no additional information because they already knew who the town is.
@Gonz I am going on the assumption that any inactives will be talking in a hurry before the 24hour mark is up. I'm very interested to see who pipe's up just before the noose gets tied
Right, and a townie will get killed by scum regardless if we lynch or not. So if we no-lynch, we have a 100% chance of losing a townie. Voting patterns, discussion of the kill, ect. ect. all lends itself to more analysis. If we simply no lynch, we learn a lot less than a miss-lynch. It shouldn't have to be said that having solid analysis and evidence to back up vote claims is always a needed thing, but even so, miss-lynches happen. Remember, Town has no Vig, so we win the game by lynching.
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EBWOP:
Damn, something off topic though.
How do you change the avatar thingy? I've seen some people change it to horses and stuff, but I get stuck with the starcraft one and don't know how to change it.
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On January 04 2012 12:36 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP:
Damn, something off topic though.
How do you change the avatar thingy? I've seen some people change it to horses and stuff, but I get stuck with the starcraft one and don't know how to change it.
You turn pro and get asked to play pro sc2 for TL
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@Sheth, hey man! Glad to be playing with you again. Likewise to you.
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Beware the flying monkeys, would they stray into the mafia forum?
Aah Sheth, thanks for coming! That gives gretorp and Xeris a little breathing room for now. I also noticed that post from Cats but was waiting for him to add something else or for someone to pick it up. Specifically since I mentioned previously about taking stand.
I will not try to lynch you for saying something stupid. We all make mistakes. However, I will come down on you with hell-fire if you don't take a stand and argue your case. There is no point trying to ascertain mafia's intentions, it all leads to WIFOM. Read their actions and responses. As you say being wishy-washy is a mafia trait, so don't do it and pick up on people that do.
It is better to be wrong than silent.
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On January 04 2012 12:34 CatsnHats wrote:
Thanks CookieMaker for the link. And you're right Sheth, if I am leaning toward no lynch that would be a red flag for scum. But wouldn't emphatically being in favor of a lynch be a red flag for scum too since the odds are in favor of townie being accidentally chosen? Oh God this is gonna be so meta.
This is why you must make up your mind for yourself and take a stand. Too many easy excuses if you don't. For me it makes sense to lynch wherever possible. A bad lynch is bad, but not catastrophic (at this stage) and if pushed correctly can provide information about the people pushing for it.
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All aspects of the game were Randomized
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On January 04 2012 12:34 CatsnHats wrote:
Thanks CookieMaker for the link. And you're right Sheth, if I am leaning toward no lynch that would be a red flag for scum. But wouldn't emphatically being in favor of a lynch be a red flag for scum too since the odds are in favor of townie being accidentally chosen? Oh God this is gonna be so meta.
Yep its fun.
You're still not posting
anything useful.
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CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D!
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