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Looking into Palmar his filter, he and Wiggles go off on some sort of duet where they distance eachother and vote for eachother.
Then they both switch and nothing is said of it and right before Palmar flips, he lists Wiggles as town. Where as before in his filter, nowhere does it come forward that he has really changed his mind or that Wiggles has him convinced that he is town. Seeing as Palmar flipped scum, im thinking MrWiggles might be one of his demonic dancing partners.
Palmar attacks MrWiggels after Wiggles makes a "case" against him. So palmar rewards a bad read with a vote. Scummy play and turns out, Palmar was scum.
On January 06 2012 19:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:So, I think Palmar is scum for his wishy-washiness, failure to provide any scum-reads, and for his timid posting and interactions. This is doubly condemning in the light of his normal town play, which is the complete opposite of what we see here. This is our Day 1 Lynch. No you are, because you cannot possibly be this bad. ##Vote: Mr. Wiggles
Ok, so full on action. Then, the 8th of januari happens, last day of the first day.
On January 08 2012 07:38 Palmar wrote:
Die scum
##Vote: risk.nuke
Vote happens @ 7:38 on 8th januari 2012.
Then in MrWiggles his filter he attacks palmar right up until the last "day" of day1, namely 7th of januari. 8th of januari, the day of the deadline. He stops with digging into palmar without any reasoning for it in his filter.
On January 08 2012 07:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
##Unvote: Palmar
##Vote: risk.nuke
Vote happens on 8th of januari 2012 at 7:30.
In conclusion, these two were giving eachother nothing but hate right up until ~7:30 on the 8th of januari. Looks like a planned and organised move to move the votes of eachother after they created some distance of eachother on day1.
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On January 10 2012 00:15 syllogism wrote:
I'm more interested in what you think of risk.nuke right now
They way Palmar handled Risk.nuke i think its safe to say he is not on the demonic team.
So late voting for Risk is too risky for their team to control and he wouldnt just sacrifice one of his own to appear more innocent in a setup of 3/3/12.
So, Risk is Town or Angel. He claims townie with no powers.
Then this
On January 09 2012 10:00 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm a vt.
which is only preluded by
On January 09 2012 08:35 risk.nuke wrote:
I'll claim just before daypost.
followed with
On January 09 2012 21:11 risk.nuke wrote:
Here are the surfers riding last days bandwagonwave. There isn't a real case againt me. Just layabout's horrible tunneling pet theory. We just recived a ton of information due to palmars demonflip and with that I shouldn't even be a target. How can I possibly be the best lynch of the day with some 60 hours left. And everyone better state a reason I don't care what you quote aslong as you give atleast some reasoning.
I said I would claim vt, then I got insanely bussy with newbie mafia related stuff. At 59 I just tabbed and pressed vt because first I said I would and I had no idea if people were claiming as rol wanted or not. second I was hoping my promise to claim just before deadline might make me the angel think I was a scared blue. And If I were killed and you couldn't see my flip I wanted to have claimed vt.
He said he would claim. He didnt say he would claim VT like the states in his last post i quoted here. Wonder if that's semantics or a slip that he said he would claim VT against his scumbuddies and then thought he claimed it in here aswell.
He also, rightfully, distances himself from Palmar and his demon team cause the likelyhood of such powerplay by Palmar to semi-lynch Risk is just very small.
Doesn't mean risk isn't Angel scum in my opinion. All in all, he has been getting a lot of heat from everyone, held up his head sort of ok and his death might flip us an angel.
My personal target is now Dirkzor again for voting on me cause i "had a bad read on him". That alone is scummy and weird behaviour which doens't have the towns interest in mind.
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On January 08 2012 20:57 syllogism wrote:
So I guess Palmar you are on the other scum team after all? Would explain why you weren't really that keen on Erandorr lynch; you knew he wasn't on your team and that one of the two was thus likely town. Could have at least warned me
Syllogism.
Im trying to look for the context in the thread before this post but it seems to me you are referring to Palmar as being in the "other scum" team, implicating you are in a "scum team" aswell?
Do you mean Risk.nuke has high potential for being an Angel(seeing as Palmar flipped Demon) or did you slip here and write from your own perspective? Being a scum team and seeing as Palmar flipped Demon, making you an Angel?
Or am i not reading this right?
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Angel of Death (x1)
You are one of the strongest warriors from heaven, and are usually in the front lines of battle, but this mission is so important that you were moved from your regular duties to ensure its success. Every night, you may target a player to slay. That player will be utterly destroyed, and only you will find out what role and alignment the player had. You win with the angels. You may communicate outside of the thread with your angelic teammates, who are:
So it's not the AoD who killed something. Other 2 possible demon killers are Angelic Acolyte and Town Demon Hunter so either one of those killed Palmar or we wouldn't have seen the allignment. The Angelic Acolyte had to stalk Palmar with Demon then or the Town Demon Hunter had to target Palmar. Either way, it wasn't the AoD who killed Palmar.
As the chance is very slim (0,0%) the AoD wouldn't try to kill on night one......
Either Syllogism or HoB is the AoD.....!
In combination with that weird choice of words i quoted before here, you are looking very very scummy syllo............
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On January 10 2012 01:44 Grackaroni wrote:
It's also possible that the AoD targeted Syllo/HoD and I think they're way more likely to attack Syllo than HoD.
Ah damn, that's right, i read that part now.
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On January 09 2012 10:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Ah man, who will I lynch today now?  Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo. Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler.
Errrrrr.... Acolyte isn't confirmed missfired as we don't know if the town demon hunter or the acolyte killed him(must be one or the other).
Or are you the acolyte/ town demon hunter........
Other possibility is that the AoD hit a target that the demonic twister picked to twist.
Demonic Twister (x1)
Your specialized control of dark powers allows you distort the powers of the light. During the night, you may target a player to twist. Any attempts to illuminate, slay, stalk, or observe that player will fail. On even numbered nights, the demon team may also target a player to corrupt, and choose one of its members to perform this action. If the target is town, that player will be corrupted and your team will control his or her vote. You win with the demons. You may communicate outside of the thread with your demonic teammates, who are:
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There is also the small chance that either HoD or Syllo is the channeler and targeted the other one Palmar didn't.
Small odds but possible.
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On January 10 2012 03:17 layabout wrote:
i didn't feel it was worth pointing out specifically but it is probably worth noting.
@cwave what are your thoughts on the game so far?
who do you think we should be lynching?
Day1 started timidly but in the end picked up speed and because of it, we all gained a lot of (spammy)info. Mostely useless but the vote switch at the end and Palmar flipping demon the game really started now.
There is more info hidden among the players here as the Sage and Seer have either confirmed/unconfirmed Angels/Demons and the town demon hunter knows if he was succesfull or not and in what way.
As for lynching, Dirkzor for now because is either nooby/scummy and votes for me because i question him. Not set in stone as lynching someone on a bad response after a little pressure most of the time flips a townie.
Risk.nuke on my list cause of the lynch save last day in the final hour.
Very suspicious of Syllo but he has earned some close watching by everyone. in my opinion. More so due to the dance he did with palmar and the vote switch 8 min apart both to the same target after having targeted eachother.
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On January 10 2012 03:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Syllo, you're pretty smart, so please tell me why on earth you think Palmar would banish me to purgatory if he thought I was an angel?
Let's look at the scenarios:
1) I am the Angelic Observer - sending me to purgatory does nothing for the demons.
2) I am the Acolyte - unless I for some reason decide to go after a demon instead of a blue, does nothing for the demons. If I do go after blues, doing this hurts the demons.
3) I am the Angel of Death - I would never hit Palmar when I could get town to use up a lynch on him as lynching is the only anti-angel kp. Also leading a scum lynch can get some town cred. So one demon (Palmar) is safe. Another demon can be twisted, so now 2 are safe. Note, so far this also applies to the acolyte even if the acolyte is targeting a demon. So now blocking the angel of death is only useful if the third demon is also a likely target for a scum night kill.
I don't see how any of those are a better choice than targeting someone you think is a blue, especially if you have no idea which I am and are taking the 1/3 chance of a remotely useful roleblock. As I stated, I think it is much more likely he thought I was blue than an angel.
Wowowowo, you oversee(on purpose?) one thing. This is a 3 faction game but when it comes to lyncing, its a 2 faction game looking from your own POV(town,angel,demon).
Lynching is our only way to kill angels and demons help just as much with their lynch vote as the town when it comes to killing an angel.
So your point 3 is wrong cause when you are the AoD you want demon and town dead as they can lynch vote you. And of all the demons, the demonic courier is the one that can actually hurt the angel team. So hell yeah you would hit Palmar if you knew he was the courier.
Point 1) can you out your angel of death and get him couriered for 3 straight nights.
Point 2) can get you the twister or courier killed, all in the benefit of both the town and angels.
Another weird point if that you choose to eloborate point 3) with way more effort and text. If this was "The mentalist" or "Lie to me" i would call dibs in the couch on who was the liar as people tend to put to much effort in the lie they want to tell.
Points up on my suspected angel-list HoB......
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On January 10 2012 04:09 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 03:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Syllo, you're pretty smart, so please tell me why on earth you think Palmar would banish me to purgatory if he thought I was an angel?
Let's look at the scenarios:
1) I am the Angelic Observer - sending me to purgatory does nothing for the demons.
2) I am the Acolyte - unless I for some reason decide to go after a demon instead of a blue, does nothing for the demons. If I do go after blues, doing this hurts the demons.
3) I am the Angel of Death - I would never hit Palmar when I could get town to use up a lynch on him as lynching is the only anti-angel kp. Also leading a scum lynch can get some town cred. So one demon (Palmar) is safe. Another demon can be twisted, so now 2 are safe. Note, so far this also applies to the acolyte even if the acolyte is targeting a demon. So now blocking the angel of death is only useful if the third demon is also a likely target for a scum night kill.
I don't see how any of those are a better choice than targeting someone you think is a blue, especially if you have no idea which I am and are taking the 1/3 chance of a remotely useful roleblock. As I stated, I think it is much more likely he thought I was blue than an angel. Wowowowo, you oversee(on purpose?) one thing. This is a 3 faction game but when it comes to lyncing, its a 2 faction game looking from your own POV(town,angel,demon). Lynching is our only way to kill angels and demons help just as much with their lynch vote as the town when it comes to killing an angel. So your point 3 is wrong cause when you are the AoD you want demon and town dead as they can lynch vote you. And of all the demons, the demonic courier is the one that can actually hurt the angel team. So hell yeah you would hit Palmar if you knew he was the courier. Point 1) can you out your angel of death and get him couriered for 3 straight nights. Point 2) can get you the twister or courier killed, all in the benefit of both the town and angels. Another weird point if that you choose to eloborate point 3) with way more effort and text. If this was "The mentalist" or "Lie to me" i would call dibs in the couch on who was the liar as people tend to put to much effort in the lie they want to tell. Points up on my suspected angel-list HoB......
As you choose to ignore my post and after reading your responses, you are forcing me to vote for your lynch HoD.
As I stated, I think it is much more likely he thought I was blue than an angel.
But what where you, you nowhere explain it from your POV but only from Palmar's. You explain incomplete scenarios for Angel possibilities trying to steer away but nowhere go into depth about the blue/town side. Might be because you want to protect your blue role or live as town.............
You only have to fear the lynch if you are an angel.....
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On January 10 2012 06:06 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 04:30 layabout wrote:
@ Dirkzor You have made some anti-town suggestions you are under pressure
I really do not like the ##Vote Cwave, AHA i got you cwave! ##Unvote play
+you weren't on my Likey town list anyway
+what kind of respectable townie doesn't know monty python?
Not sure if i have time to come up with a detailed case today particularly as it's only the start of day2, and there are better candidates.
(thats means you risk.nuke) In hindsight the vote on cwave might have been overkill on my pressuring of him, but nonetheless it forced the reaction i had hoped (from cwave and non-specific others) I don't feel I have been under pressure yet (Jackal screaming scum does not count as pressure), but please point out where I made anti-town suggestions so i can stop doing that. (I'm sorry about the monty Python thingy...)
And again, this is not helping yourself/town. Your "pressuring"/reaction on me because I pressured you in the form of a lynch vote is scummy stuff. Apologies are also not a good sign!
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How is it not in the best interest of both the Angel Party and Demon party to try and hit the courier?
Noone could know that ofcourse but if you are either scum team and you suspect someone is scum aswell, you have a 1/3 to hit the courier right? Good odds imo and it seems Angel team wanted Palmar dead.
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On January 10 2012 08:58 Tyrran wrote:After Dirzkor mindless attack on Cwave ( Which was a fake ? What was going through your mind ?) I've started reading his filter more closely, and i dont quite like what I see there. Cwave, while not particulary active, has been pushing cases left and rigth. Within his two page filter, you can find up to 8 scum accusation on 6 different people( Dirkzor , RoL, Erandorr, risk.nuke, Jackal58, MrWiggle). Now, i dont have anything against trying to find scum, but the issue is that while seeming to actively look for scum, Cwave has never actually tried to get someone lynched !Apart for risk.nuke ( that you accused once in day one, then again in day 2), Cwave never put pressure on anyone, never asked other to investigate further on his town read. Instead, we find post like this : Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 23:52 Cwave wrote:
For you Palmar & Syllo, who would you pop right now if you had to? Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 00:03 Cwave wrote:
Posted earlier that i believe that he leans to much towards the Angel/Demon question and tries to steer away from Angels being our only threath. I think that goes without saying so it's just fluff to look like contributing by him. That and the focus on when it becomes night. Got told by Palmar that means nothing but i don't agree with that!
Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing? Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 20:11 Cwave wrote:On January 06 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
It's quite possible that wiggles is scum, but considering you don't particularly appear to care about the game, I'm hardly sold based on your "wiggles possibly can't be this bad!" case. Do you think I'm town? Why don't you care about who I think is scum? Why do you care what he thinks about your scumreads? Since you haven't provided any or anything close to it, you make it hard for someone to care for something that isn't there (yet). Just " Im gonna lynch Wiggles if he doesnt post more" and "Im gonna lynch Errandor if he doesnt post more". However, I still do care about who you think is scum. Who do you think is scum? Notice how he never ask : "what do you think about XXX, but instead remains as vague as possible ?" He his never saying "We should lynch XXX today". Notice the difference between this and MrWiggle pushing for Palmar, Syllo pushing for Erandorr, or even HoD pushing against me. More recently, when he is asked who he thinks we should lynch. Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 03:34 Cwave wrote:On January 10 2012 03:17 layabout wrote:
i didn't feel it was worth pointing out specifically but it is probably worth noting.
@cwave what are your thoughts on the game so far?
who do you think we should be lynching? Day1 started timidly but in the end picked up speed and because of it, we all gained a lot of (spammy)info. Mostely useless but the vote switch at the end and Palmar flipping demon the game really started now. There is more info hidden among the players here as the Sage and Seer have either confirmed/unconfirmed Angels/Demons and the town demon hunter knows if he was succesfull or not and in what way. As for lynching, Dirkzor for now because is either nooby/scummy and votes for me because i question him. Not set in stone as lynching someone on a bad response after a little pressure most of the time flips a townie. Risk.nuke on my list cause of the lynch save last day in the final hour. Very suspicious of Syllo but he has earned some close watching by everyone. in my opinion. More so due to the dance he did with palmar and the vote switch 8 min apart both to the same target after having targeted eachother. Dirkzor is not set in stone. Maybe we should not lynch him despite him being scummy, because he migth flip town. Risk.nuke is on his list, but not for the two reason he attacked him prior to that. Strange for someone who claims to hold an excel file with his thougths Syllo is suspicious, but still is not a lynch target. Notice how he did not answer the question. Also some of his cases have very few content in them. I'm specifically thinking about his case + Show Spoiler [ Case against MrWiggle] +On January 10 2012 00:00 Cwave wrote:Looking into Palmar his filter, he and Wiggles go off on some sort of duet where they distance eachother and vote for eachother. Then they both switch and nothing is said of it and right before Palmar flips, he lists Wiggles as town. Where as before in his filter, nowhere does it come forward that he has really changed his mind or that Wiggles has him convinced that he is town. Seeing as Palmar flipped scum, im thinking MrWiggles might be one of his demonic dancing partners. Palmar attacks MrWiggels after Wiggles makes a "case" against him. So palmar rewards a bad read with a vote. Scummy play and turns out, Palmar was scum. His case on risk nuke just after also is basically void : Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 19:30 Palmar wrote:On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:So, I think Palmar is scum for his wishy-washiness, failure to provide any scum-reads, and for his timid posting and interactions. This is doubly condemning in the light of his normal town play, which is the complete opposite of what we see here. This is our Day 1 Lynch. No you are, because you cannot possibly be this bad. ##Vote: Mr. Wiggles Ok, so full on action. Then, the 8th of januari happens, last day of the first day. Vote happens @ 7:38 on 8th januari 2012.Then in MrWiggles his filter he attacks palmar right up until the last "day" of day1, namely 7th of januari. 8th of januari, the day of the deadline. He stops with digging into palmar without any reasoning for it in his filter. Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 07:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
##Unvote: Palmar
##Vote: risk.nuke Vote happens on 8th of januari 2012 at 7:30.In conclusion, these two were giving eachother nothing but hate right up until ~7:30 on the 8th of januari. Looks like a planned and organised move to move the votes of eachother after they created some distance of eachother on day1. Here we have a typical example of someone trying to look helpful by creating a case with no content at all. he makes it look like very serious using precise quotes and stuff, but the content behind it is basically none. MrWiggle switched target because it was obvious palmar wasnt be lynched and he wanted to avoid a no-lynch. That is a pro-town move, why would you call him out on it ? Cwave, you are someone who seems towns, but in reality you did not help much at all until now. While you migth be a timid town, I also think it is likely you are scum player. Please answer this : Is there anyone you really think is scum ? Someone you would be fine pushing for lynch ? Who ? Why ? You seem to spend a lot of time analysing people. Please prove us that you are town by trying to get scummy people lynched.
Hej Tyrran, nice of you to post and ill try and answer your scummy questions as best as i can.
I think Dirkzor is bad/town scum. His way of dealing with critisism and attack, his panicvote on me after i have a poke and general attitude all would fit nicely in a scummafia wiki. There is the off chance that it's just newbie town play cause one would assume his scumteam mates would coach him into playing better or choosing his words in a better way. So if anything, he is angel cause on demonteam, Palmar would have ripped him a new one for posting like that.
Risk.nuke for his last hour vote dodge when the case on him was quite strong. He is the better choice over Dirkzor who we can park in a corner for now.
Then there is RoL, the ultra useless one with his scumplan to declare which is not executable in a real life situation but on paper looks like something. HoD or Syllo have high AoD potential but it's better to wait another night on new data so we can draw better conclusions on the two.
In short, lynching Risk but hammering RoL is second best option. Syllo doesn't seem to agree on this, why i don't know.
As for you, your filter is close to being a blackhole as it is void of any real post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176
Your first non-fluff post is from 6th of januari, 2 days into the game. Before that, you post mafiawiki stuff.
Then, 1 post on Refallen but no stance, nothing.
On January 04 2012 17:59 Refallen wrote:
Not to mention that while angels CAN kill demons, it hardly seems optimal for them. With 11 town and only 3 of each faction, for angels to kill off demons would just mean that town will have an easier time. I think that we can consider the scenario of angel and demon killing each other therfore, highly improbable.
I would like him to explain this statement. The more I think about it, the less sense it makes to me. Actually it looks more like he is saying "hey angels, please dont shoot demons". In practice of course killing all the demons is pretty good for the angels as they would not have to worry about them getting a lot of votes through corruption. And a blue is not more threatening than a demon for an angel.
So reffallen, can you please explain why you thought it is not optimal for angels to kill demons ? I dont see much drawback for them doing this. Also it's your turn to step and and post. Who do you think is most scum rigth now ?
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On January 07 2012 09:12 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 07:47 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Well, it appears as though xsksc is no longer playing this game, as his last post was: January 04 2012 23:24. I don't like lynching lurkers, but from what I know of Erandorr, his lurking makes him likely to be scum, and I do like lynching scum. Barring him showing an actual commitment to playing, I would be fine with lynching him. On risk.nuke, his playstyle seems to vary a good deal between games, so I am not sold on him being scum yet and would certainly like to hear a bit more from him before deciding whether or not I think he is worth a lynch. TyrranTyrran's play seems very different from his play in steamship where he was town. He is being much less aggressive so far, and usually people are more aggressive as town than they are as scum. I think he would make a fine lynch for the day. My only qualm with lynching him is that he hasn't interacted with other players much so far, so his flip will be less revealing, but I like our odds of hitting scum here. My vote will be on him for now. His steamship filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=57176His filter so far this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176##Vote: Tyrran If you read steamship mafia, you'll notice i wasnt really active before I had some hard fact to analyse ( ie kenpachi lynch). I'm not good at analysing Meta, because its only my second game here. Half the accusation here are made on meta. I'm looking for contradictions, votes, something i can work on. I dont like making case for the sake on making one. I'll make a case after day 1, when i'll have more info to work with.
A vote on Errandor
On January 07 2012 21:50 Tyrran wrote:
Therefore, ##Vote : Errandor
And then some more questions towards the thread and lastly, one post on me.
You.have.contributed.nothing, Mister one page filter.
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Money -> mouth.
##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD
(had to go 11 pages back to find his last post so i could spell his name correctly)
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On January 10 2012 18:55 Tyrran wrote:
@Cwave : I agree that i have contributed less than I should as town. I'm not going to go frontal with syllo/HoD because they call me scummy. The only way I can defend myself now is by making more pro-town contribution. That is what i intend to do.
Is there any other form of contribution other then PRO-town?
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On January 10 2012 18:24 syllogism wrote:Cwave I read that post several times and I've no idea what you are saying. If you are town you need to seriously re-evaluate your play. Specifically I would like to see you rephrase or explain what you said here Show nested quote +In short, lynching Risk but hammering RoL is second best option. Syllo doesn't seem to agree on this, why i don't know. Are you saying that you want to lynch risk? Why are you voting for RoL then? We've almost 40 hours of the day left, so if you truly consider risk the better lynch, you aren't making any sense.
I want to lynch both.
Unlike RoL(aka the guy who doesn't post) risk.nuke is still producing reactions and information in the progress, so RoL is a good option in my book. Hence i vote for him at this point as lynchtarget.
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On January 10 2012 21:50 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 21:14 Cwave wrote:On January 10 2012 18:55 Tyrran wrote:
@Cwave : I agree that i have contributed less than I should as town. I'm not going to go frontal with syllo/HoD because they call me scummy. The only way I can defend myself now is by making more pro-town contribution. That is what i intend to do. Is there any other form of contribution other then PRO-town? Yes there is. And this is what you should be looking for when scumhunting. It includes discusssing topics that doesnt really matter , it includes randomly calling people ou without putting pressure on them, it includes Bandwagoning wihtout any good justifications. It includes calling people stupid for not blindly beleiving you. It includes basically every single post that doesnt make us one step closer of lynching a scum. I guess that what i call 'pro-town contribution' you call simply ' contribution ' but I beleive scum also contributes to the thread, only not in a way that helps town. You also did not answer Syllo's question : What do you mean by 'lynching risk.nuke but hammering Rol is the best option ' ? Do you want to lynch RoL or Risk ?
Why i ask is because i find it a given you post protown stuff as ... town.
To articulate it and stress it that you are gonna be pro-town leads me to believe you are forcing yourself to do pro-town stuff.
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No, i say Risk is my number one case.
If we can lynch him today, i will vote.
However, given the certain situation, RoL is ALSO a very good option to lynch.
One does not exclude the other and i don't feel we are misslynching if we prefer Risk over RoL or vice versa.
What in the thread did i miss that makes RoL not a good lynch atm? (yes risk is a good lynch and i want him hang aswell).
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Why?? I think it's utterly retarded if it ends up in a stallmate/no lynch cause people won't vote for their number 2 given the situation.
It's depressing if people can't comprimise if anything.
If i thought RoL wasn't a good lynch, i wouldn't vote.
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