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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 20:57 GMT
#1361
Sheth: the simplest answer is that mafia thought that it was worth the risk; there are a lot of new players in the game and medics rarely do what they are told (assuming that's why I survived). Mafia could have also assumed that precisely because all the medics were told to protect me, they would not expect mafia to shoot me and ergo protect someone else. It's a typical scenario really, but I think it was a poor decision.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 15 2011 20:58 GMT
#1362
On December 16 2011 04:00 Arctocod wrote:
MrZentor send in your action to extend the day


Did you do this exclusively to confirm his claim guy? Like, was there any other reason to have him burn that power today?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 21:03 GMT
#1363
On December 16 2011 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 04:00 Arctocod wrote:
MrZentor send in your action to extend the day


Did you do this exclusively to confirm his claim guy? Like, was there any other reason to have him burn that power today?

It is optimal to use it today and as early as possible, assuming Rad's claim about there being a role blocker that can act during day and night is true (well actually I'm pretty sure it's true, the question is whether he was really blocked). It is optimal because there is always a chance he gets shot if he is town, people were suspicious of him and I think the extra 24h will be most helpful today. The more players there are in the game, the more time we need to shift through posts and therefore it's best to use it as early as possible, though probably not on day 1. Further, I don't think it's a good reactive ability, as suddenly postponing the lynch will just cause unnecessary chaos.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 15 2011 21:05 GMT
#1364
That was the correct answer, sir. As you were.

Assuming syllo, what are YOUR thoughts on risk.nuke bro? Can we smoke that fool today plx?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 21:09 GMT
#1365
His play seems very strange if he is scum. He is attracting a lot of attention, posting quite a bit and being aggressive. His latest post about changing his style also feels genuine to me. I don't see what makes him more likely scum than all the useless people we've around. While he isn't one of my strongest town reads, I don't think he is a good target.
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 15 2011 21:11 GMT
#1366
On December 16 2011 05:11 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 05:06 MrZentor wrote:
I hope you guys realize I'm confirmed town now and, we should kill nuke.

We confirmed your role, not your alignment. You are likely town, but far from confirmed. Your role seems pro-town, but Eii's role seemed more pro-scum than pro-town, and yet he was town. So clearly that is not enough to confirm anything. Also, with all the last minute vote-switching/the withdrawal of Arctocod day 1...why in the hell did you not extend that day?

If you looked through my pasts, you would have seen my explanation; I was fine with how the lynch and election ended up.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#1367
Out of respect Syllo, I'm going to look elsewhere then. Pick your poison, I'm willing to look at anyone you tell me to.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 21:20 GMT
#1368
You could look into cascades/evan/marser/nyc

That's not the full list of acceptable lynches today, just a list of people who I haven't today yet looked into. Marser is there because I can't quite tell.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 15 2011 21:36 GMT
#1369
Sheth, the key to scenarios like the one you just proposed is time. Arctocod has two things right now pointing to him being very very likely town. Not to mention that they are also very strong town-aligned players. If they are still alive on Day 4/Day 5 and have not been catching scum, THAT is when you start questioning the voracity of the confirmation events.

Likewise with GigyaS. He is seen almost universally as town right now, and is posting pretty sensibly. Not to mention that he might still have more actions up his sleeve that mafia doesn't know about it. Again, if he is still alive in the late-game and hasn't been getting hit, you start questioning.

On December 16 2011 06:09 Arctocod wrote:
His play seems very strange if he is scum. He is attracting a lot of attention, posting quite a bit and being aggressive. His latest post about changing his style also feels genuine to me. I don't see what makes him more likely scum than all the useless people we've around. While he isn't one of my strongest town reads, I don't think he is a good target.


I agree with this. I think risk.nuke is a poor lynch today. His play is scummy, but NOT scum driven from what I can see.


Bumatlarge: you need to start playing this game fast. Dropbear started you in a hole, so if you are town please start showing us.

I want to look harder into both greymist and supersoft today. After Day 1 I had both down as prob town, but I'm not so sure anymore.


Marserblood, nyczbrandon
and refallen all need to post more. Who do you guys want to lynch today.

GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 21:37 GMT
#1370
On December 16 2011 06:09 Arctocod wrote:
His play seems very strange if he is scum. He is attracting a lot of attention, posting quite a bit and being aggressive. His latest post about changing his style also feels genuine to me. I don't see what makes him more likely scum than all the useless people we've around. While he isn't one of my strongest town reads, I don't think he is a good target.


But in his post about changing his style, you don't find it odd that he essentially gave an excuse not to scumhunt anymore today?

you are right however that he is doing a very good job at attracting attention, though i am not completely sold on the fact that mafia would never do this.

ill take a look over the tread for an alternative lynch, though i am not completely sold on risk being town, his behavior just has not been helpful at all.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 21:41 GMT
#1371
I'm not saying mafia would never do this, I'm saying mafia are less likely to do it. When we have 5 scum to find, it's not optimal to go after such a person, unless someone can actually make a case as to why his actions make him likely scum.
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zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 15 2011 21:57 GMT
#1372
On December 16 2011 05:56 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Ok, as I'm reading through everyones filter I want to bring up two points that haven't been brought up yet.

I think theres a chance mafia can mess with our Lynch like they messed with our Election. So I'd like to have a backup lynch discussion as well.

Secondly I think we need a third person who we would vote in, in case Mafia can remove one election candidate again.

I geuss as another point, bumatlarge please do what VisceraEyes did; re-read what you can when you can and comment on what you think about it.


Agree with you on needing a third person
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 15 2011 22:25 GMT
#1373
On December 15 2011 18:20 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:03 Arctocod wrote:
Cwave who would you elect and why?


Myself as im town and would put great power to good use. Seeing as this is veteran city im aware that the chances of that happening are slim i still hope to make everyone think twice before its a Russian election again.
As for the second candidate, i say Giygas. Giygas posts sensible and is active, has a brain and will use the power to good use instead of squander it.

All of the last hour vote switchers to Spaackle can expect to never get a vote from me while there are sensible alternatives



Why do you prefer Gigyas instead of Arctocod? What makes Giygas seem more sensible and active than Arctocod? Or do you find Arcotocod scummy?

What do you think of me. Do you think I am scummy? Do you think I am likely town?

How would you rank the following players in terms of most likely to be town: Radfield, Arctocod, Greymist, Deus-ex, ProfBA



There was something else I was going to ask you too, but I forget
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 15 2011 22:35 GMT
#1374
On December 16 2011 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not sure on the election mechanics...so whoever gets first place will get the Secretary of Defense and whoever gets 2nd gets the Surgeon General, is that right?


Can someone answer this plz before I cast my election vote?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 15 2011 22:36 GMT
#1375
On December 16 2011 07:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not sure on the election mechanics...so whoever gets first place will get the Secretary of Defense and whoever gets 2nd gets the Surgeon General, is that right?


Can someone answer this plz before I cast my election vote?

It is now time to elect our newest officials! The winner will be rewarded the title of Surgeon General, while the runner up will become the new Secretary of Defense. Both elected officials will be pardoned during the day two lynch. Radfield and ProfessorBadass are ineligible for election this cycle.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 15 2011 22:39 GMT
#1376
My thoughts: most everyone should be voting for GiygaS then, because if the SoD role is as viggish as it sounds, I prefer that to be in the hands of Arctocod, because GiygaS obviously is just going to ask who he should use it on, where Palmogism will likely use it on who it should be used on.

Ergo, my election vote will be going on GiygaS, with the intent of him getting Surgeon General.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 22:43 GMT
#1377
I agree, I'm not really comfortable with a vig role yet, I want to get more used to Mafia before I do that. Anyway, I want to talk about something:

On December 16 2011 06:36 Radfield wrote:
I agree with this. I think risk.nuke is a poor lynch today. His play is scummy, but NOT scum driven from what I can see.


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Huh?

How is scummy posts not an influence to lynch someone?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 22:51 GMT
#1378
Just to note, I do agree with artco getting into the 2nd slot now. I am keeping my vote on him to ensure that he recieves second place, some of us still need to do that.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 15 2011 23:04 GMT
#1379
On December 16 2011 07:43 GiygaS wrote:
I agree, I'm not really comfortable with a vig role yet, I want to get more used to Mafia before I do that. Anyway, I want to talk about something:

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 06:36 Radfield wrote:
I agree with this. I think risk.nuke is a poor lynch today. His play is scummy, but NOT scum driven from what I can see.

Huh?

How is scummy posts not an influence to lynch someone?


What I mean is, there are things with risk.nuke's play that could be called scummy. Repeatedly calling out Greymist without analysis, running hard out of the blue for pardoner, etc. Yet I don't see scum-motivation behind risk.nuke's posts, nor does it feel like his tone is fake or forced.

Sometimes people play over-the-top with no regard for how they are viewed by the other players in the game, or how a certain stance or position might make them look. Those people are rarely mafia, and normally vanilla town. risk.nuke fits that profile, and as such I think he is probably town.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 23:07 GMT
#1380
I'm gonna look at Risk.Nukes history and see if his town play has even been like this before.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
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