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On December 16 2011 00:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:30 Cwave wrote:On December 16 2011 00:09 Arctocod wrote:On December 15 2011 23:54 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
EBWOP : Just woke up, meant to say "If I said I'm getting a really scum read on Giygas would anyone know why?" No, he is pretty much a confirmed townie Herpederp, can you respond to my question about who you think are scum. Who do you got a read/case on? On December 15 2011 02:58 Arctocod wrote:
Probably Comprissent/Marserblood or Dropbear. Dropbear disappeared completely once the pressure was off and last time appeared quite quickly after being called out This is the only active stance you take on who is red. Rest is "problaly green this, problaly green that". Do you have any good solid reads on someone? Or are you gonna vote on Dropbear(bumatlarge)? My vote stands on GiygaS for the election for now. Don't be an idiot. GiygaS is basically confirmed town. But we're currently working through an excel sheet of all the reads in the game, we'll probably have some kind of a conclusion tomorrow. Both Syllo and I suck at finding scum, we're really good at finding townies though, so we're using the process of elimination to find them. chill and be less useless until we're ready.
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oh wait, your election vote is on giygas, I approve of that.
Syllo and I want the secretary of defense thing, giygas should get the surgeon general
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On December 15 2011 12:46 zeks wrote:
wow both my calls were off as @#!*% i suck as town
Mafia.
On December 15 2011 13:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next.
I'd like to be elected. Also, for future record and in case I am not on later or I suddenly die, here is a list of people, whom I think are mafia. Sheth, Zeks, Risk.nuke
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On December 16 2011 01:28 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 12:46 zeks wrote:
wow both my calls were off as @#!*% i suck as town Mafia. Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 13:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next. I'd like to be elected. Also, for future record and in case I am not on later or I suddenly die, here is a list of people, whom I think are mafia. Sheth, Zeks, Risk.nuke
Claims unlynchable day 1 and "useless" after that
Still has failed to answer my question about what his role name is
Half assed effort to run for a position to get a pardon
However I'll give you my vote today
not for election but for lynch
scum
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On December 16 2011 01:28 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 12:46 zeks wrote:
wow both my calls were off as @#!*% i suck as town Mafia. Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 13:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next. I'd like to be elected. Also, for future record and in case I am not on later or I suddenly die, here is a list of people, whom I think are mafia. Sheth, Zeks, Risk.nuke
Seriously..... Do you want to die? -.-
##vote: MrZentor
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I really need to be posting, sorry for the delay everybody (being sick is no fun)
It looks like discussion has stalled because we have decided our officer elections already. I'll be voting Gigyas, as I do think Arc will better be able to put to use whatever role the SoD may get.
As for lynch targets, i'm having a look through filters now, will post again after lunch
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Relevant part of post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 17:15 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:The saving grace for him in my eyes is his dislike of Greymist's play. I agree with him on this. I have played one other game with Greymist, and he was scum in that game. He seems to be playing quite similar to how he did in that game. In both games he asks a ton of questions to various people, only to land on whatever seems like a fairly easy lynch to pull off with minimal real analysis. He also tends to enjoy answering simple questions such as hours remaining in the day, votes required for lynch, etc. While certainly nice to do, it also gives you a way to seem like you are helping when you are in fact only providing information already available to everyone. His filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=120900¤tpage=Alland from Steamship: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=120900¤tpage=AllI'd be interested to hear input on this from anyone else with prior experience playing with him. Does he tend to do this as town as well? If he does, then obviously this case on him is significantly weakened, but regardless I have yet to see much out of him so far that makes me think he is likely to be town. /Harbinger
Arctocod, I'm assuming at least one of your halves has played with Greymist when he was town before, does he normally play like this as town? In steamship, as scum, he was on the top two vote getters day 1 and day 2, here he already managed to get a vote in on every one of the top 3 vote getters on day 1. Also, as I'm sure most people are aware, some people are just easier to get lynched than others due to the way they play. Scum obviously love to push for lynches that they think will be easiest to pull off. Two of the people getting votes yesterday were Nisani and MrZentor.
So for now ##Unvote: MrZentor and ##Vote: Nisani201 until he can provide me reason not to. This is a quote from Greymist. From Steamship. Scum preying on the same players as he did in a previous game? Seems quite plausible to me.
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Not sure if it's relevant, but I kind of have that scum feeling with risk, although I have nothing to substantiate it. Will check filters for evidence. Still feel Comprissent is somewhat scummy.
Hey risk, just wondering, but who do you think would be good to look at for possible scum-evidence, and why do you feel that way?
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On December 16 2011 02:53 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Relevant part of post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 17:15 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:The saving grace for him in my eyes is his dislike of Greymist's play. I agree with him on this. I have played one other game with Greymist, and he was scum in that game. He seems to be playing quite similar to how he did in that game. In both games he asks a ton of questions to various people, only to land on whatever seems like a fairly easy lynch to pull off with minimal real analysis. He also tends to enjoy answering simple questions such as hours remaining in the day, votes required for lynch, etc. While certainly nice to do, it also gives you a way to seem like you are helping when you are in fact only providing information already available to everyone. His filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=120900¤tpage=Alland from Steamship: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=120900¤tpage=AllI'd be interested to hear input on this from anyone else with prior experience playing with him. Does he tend to do this as town as well? If he does, then obviously this case on him is significantly weakened, but regardless I have yet to see much out of him so far that makes me think he is likely to be town. /Harbinger Arctocod, I'm assuming at least one of your halves has played with Greymist when he was town before, does he normally play like this as town? In steamship, as scum, he was on the top two vote getters day 1 and day 2, here he already managed to get a vote in on every one of the top 3 vote getters on day 1. Also, as I'm sure most people are aware, some people are just easier to get lynched than others due to the way they play. Scum obviously love to push for lynches that they think will be easiest to pull off. Two of the people getting votes yesterday were Nisani and MrZentor. Show nested quote +So for now ##Unvote: MrZentor and ##Vote: Nisani201 until he can provide me reason not to. This is a quote from Greymist. From Steamship. Scum preying on the same players as he did in a previous game? Seems quite plausible to me.
except when I was scum in steamship I only pushed one of those players each day. Yesterday I swapped off of MrZentor for a logical reason, and I ultimatly ended up agreeing with radfield what the nisani lynch was not a good idea at that time due to lack of posting.
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On December 16 2011 01:36 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 01:28 MrZentor wrote:On December 15 2011 12:46 zeks wrote:
wow both my calls were off as @#!*% i suck as town Mafia. On December 15 2011 13:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next. I'd like to be elected. Also, for future record and in case I am not on later or I suddenly die, here is a list of people, whom I think are mafia. Sheth, Zeks, Risk.nuke Claims unlynchable day 1 and "useless" after that Still has failed to answer my question about what his role name is Half assed effort to run for a position to get a pardon However I'll give you my vote today not for election but for lynch scum
I told you I am not going to answer a mafia.
If anybody who I don't think is mafia, everybody but the people on that list, asks me, I will answer.
I am only doing running for an office, because somebody else suggested it.
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On December 16 2011 02:53 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Relevant part of post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 17:15 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:The saving grace for him in my eyes is his dislike of Greymist's play. I agree with him on this. I have played one other game with Greymist, and he was scum in that game. He seems to be playing quite similar to how he did in that game. In both games he asks a ton of questions to various people, only to land on whatever seems like a fairly easy lynch to pull off with minimal real analysis. He also tends to enjoy answering simple questions such as hours remaining in the day, votes required for lynch, etc. While certainly nice to do, it also gives you a way to seem like you are helping when you are in fact only providing information already available to everyone. His filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=120900¤tpage=Alland from Steamship: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=120900¤tpage=AllI'd be interested to hear input on this from anyone else with prior experience playing with him. Does he tend to do this as town as well? If he does, then obviously this case on him is significantly weakened, but regardless I have yet to see much out of him so far that makes me think he is likely to be town. /Harbinger Arctocod, I'm assuming at least one of your halves has played with Greymist when he was town before, does he normally play like this as town? In steamship, as scum, he was on the top two vote getters day 1 and day 2, here he already managed to get a vote in on every one of the top 3 vote getters on day 1. Also, as I'm sure most people are aware, some people are just easier to get lynched than others due to the way they play. Scum obviously love to push for lynches that they think will be easiest to pull off. Two of the people getting votes yesterday were Nisani and MrZentor. Show nested quote +So for now ##Unvote: MrZentor and ##Vote: Nisani201 until he can provide me reason not to. This is a quote from Greymist. From Steamship. Scum preying on the same players as he did in a previous game? Seems quite plausible to me.
Palmar is gone for the day so he can't comment on that but greymist at least been very active and appeared to start scum hunting early. Doesn't look like a good target for the day. I'm struggling with all these low content players I'm not familiar with. Comprissant and Marserblood in particular look awful to me.
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Hey Arcto, what is your initial read on Comprissant?
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Also, I am going to reduce my mafia list to risk.nuke and zeks.
Zeks has been pressuring Sheth the whole game, so it's unlikely they're both mafia. Zeks looks scummier, so I am going to stick with him. It's also interesting that he did an analysis on one of the easiest people to do an analysis on, Sheth. Sheth was one of the easiest people to blame, because he was new to the game.
Zeks and Risk reek of scum.
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Supersoft why are you alive? Is annul going to play today?
Rad while your play on the whole looks solid, I can't help but to return to the way the lynch went.
"I'm voting for evantrees. Anyone who wants to follow me is more than welcome. "
"That's actually a pretty good point ProBad. Lets go with Spaackle."
"Lets solve the risk.nuke question on another day. I say we hit spaackle."
While that's something I could say, that doesn't really look like typical radfield behavior. You even acknowledged after xlviii that your play was too passive and you need to be more confident and now you just randomly switch to someone and barely justify it?
Mrzentor: Claim please. Full claim.
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On December 16 2011 02:59 Jitsu wrote:
Not sure if it's relevant, but I kind of have that scum feeling with risk, although I have nothing to substantiate it. Will check filters for evidence. Still feel Comprissent is somewhat scummy.
Hey risk, just wondering, but who do you think would be good to look at for possible scum-evidence, and why do you feel that way?
Please elaborate on why i'm scummy, I know i've been a bit inactive, and that's probably most of any reason to mistake me for scum. I've noticed you only really appear to post after I post, and attempt to direct discussion onto me. If you recall I never said I suspected you of scum, in fact I said I did not think you were such. There's also really no motive for me to change my mind, according to you I haven't done anything scummy but rather just 'picked you out of a hat', which upset you
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On December 16 2011 03:31 Arctocod wrote:Supersoft why are you alive? Is annul going to play today? Rad while your play on the whole looks solid, I can't help but to return to the way the lynch went. Show nested quote +"I'm voting for evantrees. Anyone who wants to follow me is more than welcome. "
"That's actually a pretty good point ProBad. Lets go with Spaackle."
"Lets solve the risk.nuke question on another day. I say we hit spaackle." While that's something I could say, that doesn't really look like typical radfield behavior. You even acknowledged after xlviii that your play was too passive and you need to be more confident and now you just randomly switch to someone and barely justify it? Mrzentor: Claim please. Full claim.
This could end very badly for me. -.-
I'm the Floridian, once per game, I can extend the day by 24 hours, which is why I couldn't by lynched that night. I was going to use my ability that night if I thought there was a chance of getting a better pardon/lynch victim. I only claimed to be useless in the hopes that mafia wouldn't kill me. I would like to be elected general of Secretary of Defense now, so doctors will have a higher motivation for healing me, so I won't die next night.
Zeks and Risk.nuke are mafia.
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Yeah, by that logic, I would be all over GreYMisT too. I get a towny-feel from him.
Conversely, you bandwagon-ed against me from GreY's post without any analysis of your own, pretty sure. At least, I just checked the filter, and you pretty much said "Yeah, player A and player B would be good lynches I feel. That being said, let's lynch Jitsu." Logic.
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That ability isn't that strong, we can probably just use it today to "confirm" you. And no you won't be elected into anything.
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On December 16 2011 03:51 Jitsu wrote:
Yeah, by that logic, I would be all over GreYMisT too. I get a towny-feel from him.
Conversely, you bandwagon-ed against me from GreY's post without any analysis of your own, pretty sure. At least, I just checked the filter, and you pretty much said "Yeah, player A and player B would be good lynches I feel. That being said, let's lynch Jitsu." Logic.
Yes it was something I immediately recognized and did not vote for you because of that. There ended up being no solid analysis for anyone day1, and we ended up lynching a blue, no surprise
Also, will you all please spell my name right >.<
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MrZentor send in your action to extend the day
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