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On December 15 2011 15:17 ProfessorBadass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 14:41 evantrees wrote:On December 15 2011 14:02 bumatlarge wrote:On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote: he is the replacement for dropbear.
Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them. Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper. To clarify they get pardoned the day they are elected we can still lynch them the following day. Election winners/runner ups will be pardoned during the corresponding day lynch. "I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such." I feel a tad doubtful on how good of a alignment check it would be but definitely seems worth considering. its an alignment check not role check we want though isn't it, don't see how it would work as a role check. That's not how I interpreted it to work, it's a role with powers but you don't learn what it does until you get elected. Kita can you clarify?
I think his idea is to give it to someone we're not sure of and see what they do with it roughly not certain though.
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On December 15 2011 15:17 ProfessorBadass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 14:41 evantrees wrote:On December 15 2011 14:02 bumatlarge wrote:On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote: he is the replacement for dropbear.
Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them. Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper. To clarify they get pardoned the day they are elected we can still lynch them the following day. Election winners/runner ups will be pardoned during the corresponding day lynch. "I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such." I feel a tad doubtful on how good of a alignment check it would be but definitely seems worth considering. its an alignment check not role check we want though isn't it, don't see how it would work as a role check. That's not how I interpreted it to work, it's a role with powers but you don't learn what it does until you get elected. Kita can you clarify? That's how I interpreted it too: Is it only shown to you, or the rest of the town as well?
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No, how he interpreted it was if you get elected to the position your role gets told to the entire Town. So it's like a public DT check. I don't think that's how it works.
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Didn't I replace erandor?
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Oh no thats the other game, I replaced drobear. IGNORE ME!
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On December 15 2011 16:19 bumatlarge wrote: Oh no thats the other game, I replaced drobear. IGNORE ME!
LOL fail
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Ok, so I am caught up on the thread, but haven't started filtering people yet, with one exception. I am obviously fine with Arctocod/Giygas being elected today. Arcto, which position would you prefer? I will be voting for you unless some switches to Giygas are needed if you'd prefer to be Secretary of Defense.
If anyone has anything to ask of me, feel free, I will be going to bed shortly, but will answer them tomorrow. (I'll be more active tomorrow than I have been, I promise!)
On risk.nuke, in my experience playing with him he has been rather aggressive, but he is definitely being harsher in his attacks than normal, and more personal as well. I had a town leaning on him earlier (up until around the time he started running for pardoner), but have moved back to a null read on him with his more recent attacks, as he seems to be using less logic and more ad hominem attacks.
The saving grace for him in my eyes is his dislike of Greymist's play. I agree with him on this. I have played one other game with Greymist, and he was scum in that game. He seems to be playing quite similar to how he did in that game. In both games he asks a ton of questions to various people, only to land on whatever seems like a fairly easy lynch to pull off with minimal real analysis. He also tends to enjoy answering simple questions such as hours remaining in the day, votes required for lynch, etc. While certainly nice to do, it also gives you a way to seem like you are helping when you are in fact only providing information already available to everyone. His filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=120900¤tpage=All and from Steamship: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=120900¤tpage=All I'd be interested to hear input on this from anyone else with prior experience playing with him. Does he tend to do this as town as well? If he does, then obviously this case on him is significantly weakened, but regardless I have yet to see much out of him so far that makes me think he is likely to be town.
@Evantrees: Why in the hell did you vote for me for pardoner yesterday? I wasn't running, and hadn't been active in the game. You said you RNG'ed the 3 remaining hydra players, but I am confused as to why you did that. One hydra has openly admitted to not having seen or heard anything from the second player in the hydra, and the hydra I am a part of includes my friend who is playing his first game of mafia ever. How does this make either of those 2 'hydras' a better choice than any other player?
For those curious/for the sake of clarity: I will be doing most of the posting/decision making for this day, as my friend will be traveling for a portion of it.
/Harbinger
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On December 15 2011 12:21 ProfessorBadass wrote: Well shit, we only get one bodyguard right?
Elections should be obvious, make Arctocod the Surgeon General and GigyaS the Secretary of Defense.
I'm growing a bit tired of this "vets should get the election things". What makes Arctocod town at the moment? Afaik, he got Eiii killed and no scum has been delivered so far.
Anywhere in the thread where he ibecomes a confirmed town or made someone scumslip?
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On December 15 2011 17:19 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 12:21 ProfessorBadass wrote: Well shit, we only get one bodyguard right?
Elections should be obvious, make Arctocod the Surgeon General and GigyaS the Secretary of Defense. I'm growing a bit tired of this "vets should get the election things". What makes Arctocod town at the moment? Afaik, he got Eiii killed and no scum has been delivered so far. Anywhere in the thread where he ibecomes a confirmed town or made someone scumslip? He was forced to withdraw from the election day 1 that he was winning a role in, specifically one with a bodyguard protecting him from night kills. Scum has 3 kp, 2 died, Arctocod claimed being hit by the third shot. If nobody counter-claims then either scum withheld a kp and used one of their powers day 1 solely to get him town-cred...or he is actually town. Which seems more likely to you?
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On December 15 2011 17:30 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 17:19 Cwave wrote:On December 15 2011 12:21 ProfessorBadass wrote: Well shit, we only get one bodyguard right?
Elections should be obvious, make Arctocod the Surgeon General and GigyaS the Secretary of Defense. I'm growing a bit tired of this "vets should get the election things". What makes Arctocod town at the moment? Afaik, he got Eiii killed and no scum has been delivered so far. Anywhere in the thread where he ibecomes a confirmed town or made someone scumslip? He was forced to withdraw from the election day 1 that he was winning a role in, specifically one with a bodyguard protecting him from night kills. Scum has 3 kp, 2 died, Arctocod claimed being hit by the third shot. If nobody counter-claims then either scum withheld a kp and used one of their powers day 1 solely to get him town-cred...or he is actually town. Which seems more likely to you? /Harbinger, in case it wasn't obvious.
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On December 15 2011 17:30 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 17:19 Cwave wrote:On December 15 2011 12:21 ProfessorBadass wrote: Well shit, we only get one bodyguard right?
Elections should be obvious, make Arctocod the Surgeon General and GigyaS the Secretary of Defense. I'm growing a bit tired of this "vets should get the election things". What makes Arctocod town at the moment? Afaik, he got Eiii killed and no scum has been delivered so far. Anywhere in the thread where he ibecomes a confirmed town or made someone scumslip? He was forced to withdraw from the election day 1 that he was winning a role in, specifically one with a bodyguard protecting him from night kills. Scum has 3 kp, 2 died, Arctocod claimed being hit by the third shot. If nobody counter-claims then either scum withheld a kp and used one of their powers day 1 solely to get him town-cred...or he is actually town. Which seems more likely to you?
Yes he claims being shot and he was "forced" to withdraw. Still not townconfirmation just by that. This is a palmar hydra thus should never be trusted blindly, ever . I will agree on him being a good candidate but not on "ok new election, bam, insta-give it to one of the vets".
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Cwave who would you elect and why?
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On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote: see below
Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs. I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account.
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On December 15 2011 18:03 Cwave wrote:Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs. I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account.
On December 13 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote: As this is probably going to be a common problem, if you you accidently post under the wrong account, please quote the post with your hydra account and then edit the previous post out. Changing the contents of the post will result in a multi-game ban. ty
I've been following this protocol.
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On December 15 2011 18:03 Arctocod wrote: Cwave who would you elect and why?
Myself as im town and would put great power to good use. Seeing as this is veteran city im aware that the chances of that happening are slim i still hope to make everyone think twice before its a Russian election again. As for the second candidate, i say Giygas. Giygas posts sensible and is active, has a brain and will use the power to good use instead of squander it.
All of the last hour vote switchers to Spaackle can expect to never get a vote from me while there are sensible alternatives
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On December 15 2011 18:13 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:03 Cwave wrote:On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote: see below Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs. I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account. Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote: As this is probably going to be a common problem, if you you accidently post under the wrong account, please quote the post with your hydra account and then edit the previous post out. Changing the contents of the post will result in a multi-game ban. ty I've been following this protocol.
Ok didnt know that. I stand corrected, sorry.
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On December 15 2011 18:20 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:13 Arctocod wrote:On December 15 2011 18:03 Cwave wrote:On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote: see below Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs. I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account. On December 13 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote: As this is probably going to be a common problem, if you you accidently post under the wrong account, please quote the post with your hydra account and then edit the previous post out. Changing the contents of the post will result in a multi-game ban. ty I've been following this protocol. Ok didnt know that. I stand corrected, sorry.
Are you mafia? Stop trying to get elected, you won't.
Now go build me a case on someone, explain to me your top 2 scumreads, and explain why they're scum.
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On December 15 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:20 Cwave wrote:On December 15 2011 18:13 Arctocod wrote:On December 15 2011 18:03 Cwave wrote:On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote: see below Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs. I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account. On December 13 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote: As this is probably going to be a common problem, if you you accidently post under the wrong account, please quote the post with your hydra account and then edit the previous post out. Changing the contents of the post will result in a multi-game ban. ty I've been following this protocol. Ok didnt know that. I stand corrected, sorry. Are you mafia? Stop trying to get elected, you won't. Now go build me a case on someone, explain to me your top 2 scumreads, and explain why they're scum.
ProfessorBadass for vote dancing and getting elected by a swift selection of late voters. MrZentor cause he can claim all he want, he needs to really claim or be outed as the scum he is.
As for your post itself. Don't dismiss me with a postive assignment. How about yourself go and make a case on someone? Seeing as your only real case in your filter is the one on Nisani, i might say thats a bit mediocre for a celibrated scumhunter. Lot of dribble, lot of fluff and one dead blue.
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@Cwave that was required by the mods. Else scum hydras can post scummy things on their main account and avoid the filter that way. I also understand being bitter about all the roles now and forevermore going to vets. I had a tinkling that was going to happen. Let's hope mafia helps kill all the vets for us. =) On the topic of mafia, sending just one shot after Arc seems odd. It seems like a "Hail Mary" sort of play if true.
For today, I think the credentials of Gig and Arc are much stronger than anyone else. In order to have something to discuss, we should discuss their backup candidates. I think this should be a rule that must be observed. There might be another townie with the same power, or mafia may have more than one shot. You cannot assume mafia will be restricted to the same oneshot restriction as townies.
The obvious candidate would be a vet like deus, but meh.
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Somethings I would like to note on. MrZentor claimed blue role yesterday, but never really came out and said what it was after it became "useless." Not sure what the role was/could have been, but when he was called on it, I think he just ignored the post and faded out?
I would like to see Arcto/GigyaS for the new selections. My reasoning? We are all pretty much aware that GigyaS is town, because of his role. The question was is Arcto playing the role of town up? It could be possible. I believe Arcto is town, at least right now. So at this point, they will be getting my two roles for elections.
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