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nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 04:12 GMT
#1261
The surgeon general seems like it could be the less important role. Seeing as how all it does is assign a limited medic ability, voting Arc for secretary defense seems like the better idea.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 04:12 GMT
#1262
I agree with the election selections, no one can argue otherwise really.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 04:18 GMT
#1263
I'll apply for surgeon general. There is no reason to give this to scum, so we can assure ourselves at least one town medic with me in charge. I think there is some risk here applying for the position, since the secretary is a dangerous role for scumt o get into.
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nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 15 2011 04:24 GMT
#1264
On December 15 2011 13:18 bumatlarge wrote:
I'll apply for surgeon general. There is no reason to give this to scum, so we can assure ourselves at least one town medic with me in charge. I think there is some risk here applying for the position, since the secretary is a dangerous role for scumt o get into.


hm wait who are you
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 04:30 GMT
#1265
he is the replacement for dropbear.

Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 04:35 GMT
#1266
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#1267
Ok I'm back.

On December 15 2011 12:20 Radfield wrote:
Well, so much for my protection....

Ok, so Arctocod for Secretary of Defence. Then the medic ability can be WIFOMed between the two of us. Someone who is very likely town in Surgeon General, probably Gigyas.

I assume someone took a hit last night?


On December 15 2011 12:45 Radfield wrote:
Whoops, I read the Surgeon General wrong. He does not act as a medic himself, instead he makes a different player a medic with 2 protections.

Not sure what the best play is there then. I'll think about it in the morning.



Was your writing of both of these just an accident? You said that the ability could be WIFOM'ed between two people in a post before and then this one you say that you read it wrong. It seems that you already knew this.

Giygas + Arcto are the obvious two picks for the positions. Arcto, your acting unlike you this last day. I'm not very happy that you killed Eiii without waiting to hear him respond. And with all of the elected other powers, like pardoner / mayor we agreed that it should be majority. Why is it so different here in Giygas ONLY asking you Arcto? I really think this was if nothing else stupid. Even if we have one person who is "for sure clean" which I think Arcto is, its stupid to only go off of his oppinion. I realize I havn't been here for this so I can't complain too much. But I'm really suprised in this. Why did you just decide to take this power just on yourself Arcto? We could have discussed more as a group who we wanted to vig shot and then went with that. I even posted before I went "Hey lets figure out who we should vig shot this night" and then it wasn't figured out as a group, but only as you two. I understand why you did this and its easy for me to judge, but still.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#1268
On December 15 2011 12:31 Refallen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 12:27 GiygaS wrote:
I guess this is really the only thing to decide, me or Arc as secretary/surgeon? To figure this out we should try and get an idea of what the fuck secretary will do... I'm guessing it's like Surgeon general but can assign a vig instead. Just my thoughts.


I think Arc should be the secretary, since the surgeon role is probably simpler, and we don't even know what the SoD does. Probably Arc would be experienced enough to do a better job of the SoD.

Also, now that prplhz is dead (and was clearly town in day 1 imo), what can we say about people who suspected him in day 1, which iirc included Sheth?


The fact that I suspected Prplhz adds a slight percentage more that I could be mafia. It doesn't say anything more about me being town. Other people have had other false calls, like Eiii for instance. Or even as a group we did Spaackle. Those who suspected Prplhz or Eiii or xsksc have the same thing applied to them. Just a slightly higher chance there mafia. It only really means something if someone defends or really attacks someone who flips mafia.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 15 2011 04:48 GMT
#1269
@ViscaraEyes you've been really aggressive. And really aggressive on nuke as well. If you had to vote now, who would you "call down the thunder" on?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
December 15 2011 04:48 GMT
#1270
On December 15 2011 12:46 Refallen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:22 zeks wrote:
DTs please review the lists for Spaackle lynch and ProfessorBA election vote


The idea that the list of those who had voted for ProfBA to be pardoner has to have some mafia in it is something I've seen more than one person espousing in the thread so I just want to say that I completely disagree with this line of thinking right now.

Firstly, as ProfBA has pointed out, he was the natural choice of pardoner after palmar/syllo votes were nulled. And he was even there at that time to immediately step up and say "I am the natural choice," something that I am sure many people agreed with. There is simply no reason for mafia to need to vote ProfBA to get him to office (note that I'm not actually saying that ProfBA is scum/town or anything, but just illustrating the fact that the idea that scum votes must be on ProfBA is false, since even if he was scum, the mafia didn't need to vote for him because of the lack of another viable candidate as well as ProfBA actively going for the pardoner role.) So no, if anything I think the Radfield list is more likely to contain scum.

What do you guys think?
kind of doubt either list will be particularly helpful.
given most of the ProfBA list is dead or GiygaS.
ProfessorBadass (7): GreYMisT, xsksc, prplhz, GiygaS, -GiygaS, GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, Radfield
xsksc, prplh, Eiii dead
that leaves
ProfessorBadass (3): GreYMisT, Refallen, Radfield

can't say I would be surprised if one of them was scum but have don't have any arguments for people being scum period yet and the Radfield list is a good bit longer.

Radfield (12): risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Spaackle, Comprissent, Eiii, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, DropBear, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, -Eiii
Spaackle, lynched

Radfield (11): risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Comprissent, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, DropBear, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA,

and the others.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA (1): TotallyNotTwoPeople
TotallyNotTwoPeople (1): evantrees
prplhz (1): Arctocod
Arctocod (2); MrZentor ,nyczbrandon (the annoying one to get)
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 05:02 GMT
#1271
On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote:
he is the replacement for dropbear.

Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them.


Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 05:06 GMT
#1272
I am curious to hear what Radfield thinks about who to lynch today based on the events that took place during the night.

I am going to put my vote down on Risk.Nuke for now. I have been mentioning the things wrong with his posts since midway through day one, and if you look back i posted a sample of his day1 analysis in newbie mini mafia, and compared it to his posting here. Not only does a drastic difference exist, but one that suggests a mafia agenda. In newbie mafia he was tasked with activly looking for scum, and his posting reflected that. on the other hand if he rolled mafia, he doesnt have to scum hunt, and that is reflected in his posts this game. Not to mention his refusal to provide reasoning behind his suspicions and thoughts.

On another not we need to make sure arcto ends up as the elected official. I am fairly certain due to the events that have taken place yesterday, as well as due to his posting, that he is town.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 15 2011 05:08 GMT
#1273
On December 15 2011 14:02 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote:
he is the replacement for dropbear.

Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them.


Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper.


I was suggesting MrZentor for the time being because i do not have a better idea yet for the rolecheck, I am fine with another but i felt that putting Zentor there will confirm or deny a lot of the loose ends day1 left.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 15 2011 05:13 GMT
#1274
Ok, well its sleep time for me. Sad I didn't come on earlier. Will try and be on whenever I can tomorrow, planning on streaming as much as I can. Till tomorrow
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
December 15 2011 05:41 GMT
#1275
On December 15 2011 14:02 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote:
he is the replacement for dropbear.

Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them.


Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper.

To clarify they get pardoned the day they are elected we can still lynch them the following day.
Election winners/runner ups will be pardoned during the corresponding day lynch.


"I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such."
I feel a tad doubtful on how good of a alignment check it would be but definitely seems worth considering.
its an alignment check not role check we want though isn't it, don't see how it would work as a role check.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 05:53 GMT
#1276
We were shot last night, amazing
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 15 2011 06:02 GMT
#1277
Erandorr if you don't start posting soon, we are lynching you
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ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 15 2011 06:15 GMT
#1278
I don't think Erandorr is even playing.
ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 15 2011 06:17 GMT
#1279
On December 15 2011 14:41 evantrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 14:02 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote:
he is the replacement for dropbear.

Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them.


Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper.

To clarify they get pardoned the day they are elected we can still lynch them the following day.
Show nested quote +
Election winners/runner ups will be pardoned during the corresponding day lynch.


"I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such."
I feel a tad doubtful on how good of a alignment check it would be but definitely seems worth considering.
its an alignment check not role check we want though isn't it, don't see how it would work as a role check.


That's not how I interpreted it to work, it's a role with powers but you don't learn what it does until you get elected.

Kita can you clarify?
ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 15 2011 06:18 GMT
#1280
Also can I just remove Erandorr from the game and post from my own account? If I post in the two voting threads I get blocked from posting for like 5 minutes because of new account spam control
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