Election Mafia - Page 70

On December 16 2011 08:07 GiygaS wrote:
I'm gonna look at Risk.Nukes history and see if his town play has even been like this before.

On December 16 2011 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Although it occurs to me that whatever you find will likely be argued to be useless as he's claimed in-thread that he's "changing his playstyle up" this game, essentially rendering any meta research done pretty null.

But I'm totally interested in what you find mang, this was literally next on my to-do list.

On December 16 2011 08:18 Radfield wrote:
Greymist, assuming risk.nuke was unlynchable today, who would you be voting for.

Even if you don't have specifics, who are your top 3 scummy players right now?

On December 16 2011 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:


Give me a few minutes, still looking through some of day1 to see what I can find.

The problem is i feel the majority of the actives are town, and that the scum is mixed in with the townie lurkers. This is making it rather hard to find them to be honest.

On December 16 2011 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Going over the filters, I've coded things by how I perceive them…black for null, red for scummy and green for townie. If I'm mistaken (like, if something is really null that I've called scummy), let me know…workin' on my GAME bro!

MarserBlood
Opening post doesn't say much. Basically says "I don't know who to elect or lynch"
Decides who to elect, not sure who to lynch.
Zeks isolation analysis. Cites that he chose Zeks because he was "one of the suspicious persons," but finds his contributions satisfactory and chooses to vote MrZentor because of "a scummy post" he made, and lack of "obvious scum" to vote. Also states aversion to lynching lurkers for obvious reasons (no info, probably town, etc.)
Here and here he states suspicion that Mafia was behind the removal of Palmogism from the electoral running. Also "congratulates the doc" in dismaying over the loss of a blue. But taken with wanting to talk about something at night, I still get a null read from these posts.
Here I can't tell if he's trying to appear pro-town or trying to maintain a productive atmosphere in town, so again…null.
Soft-defends Radfield from an attack by risk.nuke.

Verdict: Null leaning Town.

nyczbrandon
Notes his inexperience. You only get one freebie guy.
Short response to Spaackle saying he should think for himself.
Uh oh… another appeal to his newbishness… He also comments on Zeks, saying he was suspicious before, but because he called out Sheth for a perceived contradiction….what? He's not suspicious anymore? He doesn't say. But he does say that he'll vote for MrZentor or Sheth. Sheth I assume for the 'contradiction', and Zentor because he "seems to change votes a lot." I don't know, it seems to me like a raw-newbie wouldn't consider indecision as a scum-tell. Possibly help from outside sources? His scum-buddies? I DON'T KNOW BRO!
Here is something interesting. A raw-newbie asking about a modkill for not voting. I mean, okay, it's a valid question from anyone who read the OP…but this seems to indicate that he did NOT read the OP. Curiouser and curiouser.

Verdict: Newb-Scum Lean

On December 16 2011 08:37 nyczbrandon wrote:


The reason i didn't vote for Sheth or Zentor because seemed like majority of people were bandwagoning Spaackle so I did as well. It was like last minute so I wasn't sure what to do. Also I responded to Zentor when he asked me why I said he was changing his votes a lot. I thought I saw him doing this and apoligized to him for wrongfully doubting him.

The reason I asked for modkill, because I think I remember Sheth posting that Nisani was the only person to not have voted for lynch.

On December 16 2011 08:39 GiygaS wrote:


Amazing when you come out of the woodwork as soon as you're accused.

On December 15 2011 13:07 evantrees wrote:
true, sorry I will keep from speculating on upcoming offices, though this post probably contains too much speculating anyways.


pretty sure it means can protect for two nights then runs out.


I feel like maybe we shouldn't bother let it hopefully be more of a surprise for the mafia. they've surprised us enough as it is, but then having some suggestion as what to do with it wouldn't hurt whoever gets elected to that position would it?
leaning towards the first one myself.

so assuming radfield is to be believed about being roleblocked.
the mafia has
attorney used
a roleblocker
and 3 unknowns possibly one a vanilla goon. I really doubt more than 1 vanilla goon given the election.
Given zero vanilla townies have flipped I'm doubting there are too many vanilla people, and don't damn well claim it if you are no point potentially painting bigger targets on other people.

On December 15 2011 13:48 evantrees wrote:
kind of doubt either list will be particularly helpful.
given most of the ProfBA list is dead or GiygaS.
ProfessorBadass (7): GreYMisT, xsksc, prplhz, GiygaS, -GiygaS, GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, Radfield
xsksc, prplh, Eiii dead
that leaves
ProfessorBadass (3): GreYMisT, Refallen, Radfield

can't say I would be surprised if one of them was scum but have don't have any arguments for people being scum period yet and the Radfield list is a good bit longer.

Radfield (12): risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Spaackle, Comprissent, Eiii, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, DropBear, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, -Eiii
Spaackle, lynched

Radfield (11): risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Comprissent, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, DropBear, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA,

and the others.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA (1): TotallyNotTwoPeople
TotallyNotTwoPeople (1): evantrees
prplhz (1): Arctocod
Arctocod (2); MrZentor ,nyczbrandon (the annoying one to get)

On December 12 2011 16:31 cascades wrote:
I must be missing something. A lot of people like Sheth are saying Radfield is protown, but he only has one post as of now, and I don't see it. His post just states information any non first time players should know. In fact, he straightforwardly suggests Arc without caring about his alignment.

Anyhow, my analysis of his post indicates that it is a post both townie Radfield AND mafia Radfield would make. I would like to warn people not to jump to conclusions like that. They may be strong players, but that indicates nothing about their alignment.

My take on the election issue would be to elect the strong players for day 1. Arc has a more than barebones campaign and also more posts than the rest of the vets who have stepped forward, so the rest need to step it up.

On December 14 2011 13:50 cascades wrote:
I would like to clear things up:
While I noted down evantree and nyczbrandon being lurkerish earler in the day, we should definteily be trying for scum instead of lurkers day 1. Nothing about them convinces me that one lurker is more scummier than another. As such, I held off on placing my vote. I had believed/hoped I would be able to wake up in time to make a vote closer to the deadline. Unfortunately, Timezones are not very friendly to me.

Well, it turns out I failed. I didn't have enough enough time to read the thread and make a definite conclusion. Hence, I forgot about the time and made a late vote just after the voting deadline closes. In the future, I will place a vote on someone to avoid a repeat of this situation.

Some people were questioing about my late vote on spaackle. I was on the fence about spaackle. I had seen Radfield and ProfBadass push against him. I know he made a "slip". However, nothing else stood out as scummy enough. Sure, people pointed out holes in his analysis. Still, I felt his posts on the election was good. None of this RNG bullshit. After Arc withdrew/removed from the election, we should be trying to get a vet in. People were muddling the waters and arguing otherwise.It's almost like the previous day posts on why the mayor/pardoner roles are important was completely forgotten. They are useful for the night protection vs mafia. Speculating that mafia removed for whatever reason, that's WIFOM. Maybe mafia wanted suspicion to fall on all the other vets. Maybe mafia was hoping to get one of their own in office. Maybe mafia was just trying to cause chaos. Who knows? The only thing we can tell is mafia did not want Arc to be in office if the assumption mafia did it was correct.

Now spaackle has turned up innocent, and a blue too. If I was to redo my lynch, would I lynch spaackle again? The answer is yes. Though I was uncertain, he was the best option at that time, better than MrZentor. For the information of those who were not there near voting deadline, the two leading votegetters were MrZentor and spaackle. MrZentor had "softclaimed" blue so to speak. That left us spaackle. We had to vote and lynch for information. Certainly, we took an "easy lynch" so to speak, but the risk was worth it if we managed to catch a scum. Though we failed, it is expected as day 1 mafia lynches are rare apparently.

On December 16 2011 08:43 GiygaS wrote:
Risk's Steamship Filter.

In our game, people could describe Risk as:
- Chaotic
- Aggressive
- Accusations without evidence
- Angry/A bit rude (No offense)

In Steamship (Vanilla Townie):
- Very well thought-out posts
- Clear
- Basically all of his accusations have evidence.
- Polite, explains things for people clearly when needed.

Does anyone else see these differences?

On December 16 2011 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Although it occurs to me that whatever you find will likely be argued to be useless as he's claimed in-thread that he's "changing his playstyle up" this game, essentially rendering any meta research done pretty null.

But I'm totally interested in what you find mang, this was literally next on my to-do list.

On December 16 2011 08:44 nyczbrandon wrote:


He did say that he was going to try and change styles this time.

On December 16 2011 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote:




Amazing.