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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 10:50 GiygaS wrote: Look at his(Nisani's) and say MrZentor looks scummier than him. That is what I meant. I'll admit i have not looked at nisani much due to his significant lack of presense. while i analyize, can the people on him sum up a reason he should be lynched aside from inactivity? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
In his first significant post, he votes radfield for the election, on the basis that he looks to be playing pro-town. I believe this is at the point where radfield had a total of about 1 post. That is the only reason nisani gives and then immediatly starts trying to discredit arctocod. On December 13 2011 12:37 Nisani201 wrote: Zeks is a null-read for me. Yeah the scumslips are pretty stupid but in my experiences I've found that these easy D1 lynches don't go too well. If there are no other candidates besides him then I will definitely vote him. Otherwise I will wait for more. Notice how in the above post no effort is made by him to find these better candidates, he just said he would wait around. from a scum perspective this makes sense either because zeks is mafia and he doesnt want to bus early on, or because he can't make a case on a townie and wants to gain town cred by defending him. people have mentioned as well that he randomly picks TnTP as his lurker target, but then after: On December 13 2011 14:11 Nisani201 wrote: I just read Greymist's analysis on Jistu and I think he is much more viable lynch then Zeks. Eiii, why are you voting MyZentor? You provided no reason other than a quote. Somewhat off topic: after playing in XLVII, this is much more relaxing... so much better not having 100 players or whatever it was that game. My analysis on Jitsu, while not all encompasing and perfect, was one of the first attempts at serious analysis in the thread so far at this point. notice how he jumps on it, which ties into my first point about him not wanting to scum hunt and was having trouble building a case. This is of course not taking into account the lack of thread presense, and the potential tie-ins with the arctocod resignation. Due to this, I am comfortable with a Nisani lynch, I will be switching my vote to him. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 11:03 zeks wrote: AFAIK only you and ProfessorBA have stepped up since the (kidnapping) of Arc Scum used ability on Arc for: 1. Silence 2. The fact that he now has no protection for night kill since he wont have a body guard 3. Now it frees up an election spot for scum to take. As we can see for the voting picture after Arc got taken out it was practically a reset. I believe that if you are scum they'd clearly won't throw you out for their candidate as you have developed no credibility at all - which is the exact reason why I am really uneasy about ProfessorBA's uprising all of a sudden. Of course there is the possibility that scum team is terribly weak this game and can't afford to have both Rad/Arc in office so they just got desperate and outed one Now I have no idea how much credibility you have curu as I've never played with you. However you have satisfactorily answered my questions for now so I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now. I will hold my vote on Radfield. We don't know for sure if the ability includes a silence, don't assume things. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:05 Radfield wrote: If you are making a post without discussing a lynch candidate. Stop. We need to discuss our lynch. Rad, what do you think about the case on nisani atm? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:06 zeks wrote: I believe its a safe assumption. If Arc talks before lynch/voting finishes then you can say 'I told you so' Don't get me wrong, i think this is most likely the case, but be careful where hidden mechanics are concerend. Also i noticed you vote is currently on Sheth. there is one hour till the lynch if I am correct. Do you believe strongly enough that he is scum to the point where you can convice us all in 1 hour to switch? if not then you need to make your vote count. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 11:13 zeks wrote: I hope to hear more discussion within the next short while and I will place my vote on one of the top 2 leading vote getters and justify with reasoning in 15 mins. I will then not change my vote after that. Or you could help us find a good lynch target by looking through them now and placing a vote instead of waiting to see how others feel about it. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:19 Radfield wrote: Sheth, don't vote for MrZentor whatever you do. It's a complete waste. He has basically claimed blue in the thread, which means there is a decent chance mafia will shoot him and do the job for us. I think i missed where he soft-claimed. where are you referring to? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:07 MrZentor wrote: Yeah, killing me would be a bad idea. Well, I just wanted to clear up the confusion, not that I'm actually good at that. Let me just reiterate: killing me would be a bad idea. nvm, found it. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Looking into spaakle now. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 11:32 Eiii wrote: oh man I address sheth just as he addresses me I think removing Eiii is an awful idea! And I don't think 201 is scummy because he straight-up hasn't done anything scummy. He hasn't contributed, sure, and he's lurked a lot-- but if he hasn't developed significantly as a player since I last played with him, that is exactly what I would expect him to do as town. We have better targets to lynch today than a lurking townie. Recently as town Nisani is pretty vocal. He can still be wrong, but he is usually pretty active and assertive. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 11:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Could someone link Spaaaakle's Filter? I don't know how to do a filter and using cntrl F like I've been doing won't be that quick sense were on such a time limit. below the quote button there is a button that says "filter" | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:35 risk.nuke wrote: As for lynching I just know greymist is scum. I've read his filter so many times I'll be able to start reciting them soon. Nobody can be said to be scum for sure but I feel ten times more strongly about grey then anyone else. and yet still, no actual analysis. I've been thinking this entire game you are simply misguided, don't make me start agreeing with ProfBA. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:36 ProfessorBadass wrote: I also think that risk's actions are consistent with the withdrawal if indeed that was scum-driven. Scum most likely did it to deny Arctocod the protection and risk is trying his damn best to make sure that I, as another Townie target, don't get it. What do you think of Risk's current fingerpointing at me? i would think a scum player would have tried to actually come up with a reason to vote me. | ||
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GreYMisT
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 02 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote: I'm 100% sure Toad is scum. So to defend myself from your lines of nonsense, the wall of text where it's hard to even know who said what. You don't like the way I post? Starting the game of with some humor, so people wont get bored and hence less active. How is that anti-town play. The second one is just a small pressure post aswell as the followup. Nothing more. The fact that you question everything I do while other people are doing the same thing just sugest you have targeted me instead of targeting scummy behavior and that is not town play. Narrowing one person down and claiming everything he does is scummy by angle it or WIFOM is not town play, especially since you're only targeting me because I am the one trying to expose you. Then you're questioning my activity, trying to make a case of as if it mattered why I couldn't be at a computer long enough to analyze and write. What exacly did I have thrown against me? I am looking through the thread right now and the only thing I find is things you have said which is just omgus. You're just playing on the fact that there are so many people who doesn't go back and read but just swallows what you angle to be true. Townie priority list. 1. Establish your innocence. 2. Support the right townies. 3. Vote properly. 4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies. 5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread. There is no reason for a townie ever to angle anything, that is not their job because it doesn't help them to find scum, only scum ever tries to angle things. Ofcourse if I call out that nobody is supporting the one beeing lynched then I become his suporter, I waited as long as I dared to do it because I wanted to see if anyone else would and still have time to avert the lynch. In the second last of my quotes it's really interesting to see which part Toad choose to answer. Ignoring what was clearly the point of that post. I'll come back to this in a second. I am telling you to explain, the only evidence you have presented on Skrammen is he is scum because I am defending him. You're responses are pretty much You are scum, I have explained YOU ARE SCUM!! What I want is something concrete, like this. Toad is scum because he is inconsistent to what he says, changes his mind, angle things and when asked for reasoning why he thinks in a certain way he is having a hard time answering something that should be as simple as saying the truth. to this. see why we are a bit concerned? | ||
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On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote: How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow. my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote: It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum. If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes? the flawed logic...it burns me... | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 14 2011 12:08 Refallen wrote: Sorry, really didn't have time to do anything than a quick skim or two of the thread and I just decided to bandwagon him. I understand that this seems like a scummy thing to do but honestly with everyone pushing for a lynch I thought that getting on the bandwagon would be the most beneficial for town (see TL Mafia XLVIII for when no-lynches happen and screws town up lolol) I know in this instance its not harmful, but refrain from mentioning on-going games in this thread. Just for future reference. | ||
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