EPTI would much rather have palmar die the BC. BC is a town by my book. Palmar can go die in a fire if it means saving our sheriff.
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I would much rather have palmar die the BC. BC is a town by my book. Palmar can go die in a fire if it means saving our sheriff. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:48 vaderseven wrote: His reason would be clues are not a good way to choose a lynch. Especially given how long the day had left he should have said that and stuck to it. If he is scum though he might try to fish and fool DTs that might check him while at the same time throwing that its just clues guys chill stuff in. Nothing about needing to give a reason not to vote for him should involve lieing. The ONLY reason to MAYBE lie is to fool the mafia into thinking you have a different role. If he wanted to do that, he could claim, gasp, Vanilla. Possibly but based on the accusations him claiming green is not going to do shit for his case. Nor did any vet saying simply "lynching off first round of clues is dumb" stop people from voting. He never once said "hey dt who checked me come out now that I have debunked you" he gave a possibility. He is IMO the mafia choice candidate to be lynched and not the town, why would I ever agree to it. The massive amount of sheep votes on him, let alone the fact he is a vet (after all the fucking vet kills why would mafia stack clues onto one of their own vets?) leads me to think that his "lie" was not a mafia tell. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:50 vaderseven wrote: BC you are on track to die right now... Do you want to claim post anything before said lynch? Well, BC is tied with prplhz atm. I'm almost convinced people should swap off zeks for now so we can get prplhz and BC in one fell swoop (which is why my votes are on them right now) I'm happy enough with any combination of those three being lynched, though. Has prplhz claimed? BC should claim as well just in case. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Really? My logic is spotty? You have made excuses for Palmar for his bad decisions. I believe you said this quote earlier "A very good town player in foolishness once said that it isn't about the little things on their own, but the little things pieced together for the big picture. You might be right in that we don't lynch on clues alone, or anything else alone for that matter, but you are wrong in that you cannot use these little things in conjunction with eachother to lynch people" Stop making excuses. Start doing what you yourself have said. Lol how am I making excuses? You're accusing me of something I'm not doing. I earlier opposed the zeks lynch for the same reasons you currently oppose it; that a lynch based solely on clues is retarded. However, LaL is a policy for a reason. Lying about your role is incredibly detrimental to town because it creates confusion and the only way to deal with it is to kill the liar, really. Otherwise, you're left guessing with recursive reasoning about whether the slip was a mistake or whether it was a genuine lie. Zeks has really done nothing to tell us he is town. Really, he hasn't done anything. No scumhunting, no analysis, no real defense either. True, people have mostly just sheeped him. But at least they're sheeping him for a valid reason; lying about his role. You still have not been able to adequately respond to why anyone would ever claim miller and then vigilante. Perhaps you might hint at framers or sanities, but why miller? No one is that dumb. You want to lynch Palmar on LaL but you want to let zeks off the hook for this? And you're accusing me of trying to find excuses? Come on BC, you haven't even been able to adequately answer what Palmar lied about and how it's even game-relevant. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Possibly but based on the accusations him claiming green is not going to do shit for his case. Nor did any vet saying simply "lynching off first round of clues is dumb" stop people from voting. He never once said "hey dt who checked me come out now that I have debunked you" he gave a possibility. He is IMO the mafia choice candidate to be lynched and not the town, why would I ever agree to it. The massive amount of sheep votes on him, let alone the fact he is a vet (after all the fucking vet kills why would mafia stack clues onto one of their own vets?) leads me to think that his "lie" was not a mafia tell. and the votes on Palmar aren't sheep votes? I provided a voting list for both players earlier. how can you say that zeks is getting sheeped any more than Palmar is? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:52 bumatlarge wrote: I would much rather have palmar die the BC. BC is a town by my book. Palmar can go die in a fire if it means saving our sheriff. You do realize the decision is between prplhz and BC at this point, yeah? And WHAT DID YOU MEAN when you said douche move? That was my question. This appears like a last ditch effort to save prplhz or BC to me. (Although you do say you want to save BC so that isn't a surprise) | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:49 GreYMisT wrote: Ciry, you know that the mayor and the sherriff are not nessesarily the same aliengment right? of course you lynch the mayor if you think he is scum. I think Palmar is town and has just given up on trying to get this town back on the wagon; pulling the sacrifice tactic IMO is going to attract scum to vote for him; but he could easily be sincere about giving up. I'm voting for BC because it's too transparent a power play to my eyes. On November 30 2011 11:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Getting my mayor lynched is a good Idea if I believe he is red. If I thought he was town I would leave him alone. Did I somewhere post "I think palmar is town but I want his lynches so luls lets off him" No? didn't think so. Then why are you not supporting him in pushing for the candidates he voted on? Also, what is up with the zeks defense? | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:50 vaderseven wrote: BC you are on track to die right now... Do you want to claim post anything before said lynch? Yes, You are all bad and that if you do not lynch Palmar/annul after I die you guys will never improve. Aside from that you can go off any of these people in no particular order as they are unhelpful and just plane shifty Coagulation Kurumi Lemonwalrus Sandroba (wheres all that analysis you promised bro) supersoft Drazerk Nisani201 Those are all the vets I have on the "watch" to analyze. Sandroba has been online on skype for the last few days but his activity is near 0 but randomly appears to shit disturb and vanishes again Lemonwalrus has been active on irc and in the other mafia game while strangely absent here. These two would make good vig shots or lynches in the coming days. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Why would he be like HEY IF YOU SCANNED ME I MIGHT BE A MILLER... Its cuz he is a scum player that doesn't care if he fucks with cop results and understandings. I don't get your stance on defending him. Its as scummy as your WEIRD instance on focusing on Palmer. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:55 Risen wrote: You do realize the decision is between prplhz and BC at this point, yeah? And WHAT DID YOU MEAN when you said douche move? That was my question. This appears like a last ditch effort to save prplhz or BC to me. (Although you do say you want to save BC so that isn't a surprise) It's sole purpose is to save BC, if I wanted to save prplhz (lol) I'd unvote him. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Yes, You are all bad and that if you do not lynch Palmar/annul after I die you guys will never improve. Aside from that you can go off any of these people in no particular order as they are unhelpful and just plane shifty Coagulation Kurumi Lemonwalrus Sandroba (wheres all that analysis you promised bro) supersoft Drazerk Nisani201 Those are all the vets I have on the "watch" to analyze. Sandroba has been online on skype for the last few days but his activity is near 0 but randomly appears to shit disturb and vanishes again Lemonwalrus has been active on irc and in the other mafia game while strangely absent here. These two would make good vig shots or lynches in the coming days. Agreed with this, though minus perhaps Drazerk/sandro. Sandro is uber lazy this game. If he doesn't step it up tomorrow we should kill him, but he's not worth a vig yet. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
BC has been dodging his questions and Zeks claiming miller is indeed retarded. i cant justify why he would claim miller then vig it wouldnt make sense if he were scared of dying if he claimed vig because he could have said he was framed instead of being a miller I hope you guys are right | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
I didn't mean to I sweear In the voting threead | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:54 wherebugsgo wrote: and the votes on Palmar aren't sheep votes? I provided a voting list for both players earlier. how can you say that zeks is getting sheeped any more than Palmar is? Simple, zeks has been getting voted for based off a clue analysis and a ton of players voted for him insanely quickly with very little reasoning. Some have given a reasonable reason but most haven't. Palmar is now at 15 and has been growing steadily over time. Of the entire vote, the only two people who appeared in the last 10ish hours with huge vote swings are myself and prpl. Palmar has had a ton of people trying to save his ass yet has done barely anything himself. Zeks has had what, himself and me primarily? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 30 2011 11:57 vaderseven wrote: Why would Zeks claim miller over vanilla if he was just worried about things... Why would he be like HEY IF YOU SCANNED ME I MIGHT BE A MILLER... Its cuz he is a scum player that doesn't care if he fucks with cop results and understandings. I don't get your stance on defending him. Its as scummy as your WEIRD instance on focusing on Palmer. could be a newbie-townie mistake, some rookie who overthought things and didn't realise what a suicide it was. I said stupid stuff in my first game. | ||
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