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Alright, I've finally caught up and have decided to: ##Unvote: Lanaia My reason being I don't feel its nessesary anymore for both kenpachi and her to die right now. On top of that, her role will be easy to keep in check as it gives us her name in the vote thread when she uses her power. This doesnt mean I think she is super towney, but I'm not getting that scum feel from her right now.
However I did just look over prplhz and I found a lot of one line posts, votes without reasoning, and all-caps posts to make up for said reasoning.
##Vote: Prplhz
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Lemon can you explain why you are more concerned about bum "watching the thread go by" instead of Coag?
I don't see bum doing anything weird. Coag voted for someone who was already hammered.
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On November 17 2011 13:02 wherebugsgo wrote: Lemon can you explain why you are more concerned about bum "watching the thread go by" instead of Coag?
I don't see bum doing anything weird. Coag voted for someone who was already hammered.
Is that the issue? Well to be fair last I checked the thread yesterday, it was at 23 pages, now its at 42. I probably only would have mentioned that it would be better for us to keep kenpachi alive rather then lanaia as it gives us more information, and lynching the other later is no concern.
Coag only posted twice, but I do recall him lurking in the beginning last time I played with him. I forget if he was a scum that game. I'd be more afraid of active scum Coag, then lurking scum coag, as vets who lurk have no presence in a game with a lot of fresh faces. I would say it would be different the other way around if this was a few months ago.
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On November 17 2011 13:02 wherebugsgo wrote: Lemon can you explain why you are more concerned about bum "watching the thread go by" instead of Coag?
I don't see bum doing anything weird. Coag voted for someone who was already hammered. bum had posted a few times in the beginning, so his relative absence felt like lurking.
Coag only posted once, I was beginning to think he had just given up due to something irl and was going to be replaced.
To be honest both of their absences irked me but I felt like voting coag would be useless if he was going to be replaced.
Now he has come back, but it still seems like he skimmed the thread for 10 minutes and made a random post to stay in the game. Either he is playing the weirdest lurker scum I've ever seen or he is just not into this game.
##Vote: Coagulation
bum still needs to be a bit more vocal/useful for me to remove my vote, but his recent posts are a step in the right direction I guess.
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(basically I thougth bum was lurking and coag just wasn't playing, and it seems like if coag was scum his scum buddies would be prodding him to play, so I thought a not playing coag was a town coag, that would be replaced by someone actually playing as town. But now that he is back and playing weird, I agree that it looks bad.)
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Sorry guys I'm sick and sleep deprived and I have so much to do.
But a quick glance through. Before we lynch Lanaia, we should at least see how Kenpachi fllps. A lot of analysis has been "Kenpachi is scum so Lanaia is scum", yet we don't know 100% if Kenpachi is scum
##Vote: sinani206 Since in reality he hasn't said anything besides "xxx is obvscum"
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chaoser has assured me that his attempt to make a bet outside the scope of the game was unintentional. He is warned as a result.
I would also like to note that barring additional evidence, I will use male pronouns by default when referring to players in day or night posts. If you wish to be referred to using female pronouns and have not already made it obvious in the thread, you may PM me to have that rectified.
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On November 17 2011 13:54 LSB wrote: Sorry guys I'm sick and sleep deprived and I have so much to do.
But a quick glance through. Before we lynch Lanaia, we should at least see how Kenpachi fllps. A lot of analysis has been "Kenpachi is scum so Lanaia is scum", yet we don't know 100% if Kenpachi is scum
##Vote: sinani206 Since in reality he hasn't said anything besides "xxx is obvscum"
LSB can you tell us all what you think of Coag and lemon?
I'd like to hear what you make of Coag's vote and his relative incompetence so far.
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Well you guys can clearly see I havnt been on top of this game. Doesnt take a vet player to tell that my contributions have been less than optimal. I have been extremely busy the last couple of days and on top of that have had alot of personal issues at home I have had to deal with. I wouldnt have signed up for this game however lemonwalrus asked me in PM to join a game with him and I feel that I owe him because His "first game" I had insisted that he join and play and he obliged me.
I will be much more active these next couple of days as things have calmed down and I will be having some more free time.
As far as my thoughts on the game so far. From what I have understood so far there has been zero evidence to back anything up at this point. I must have missed the kenpachi vote that hammered him in (I have no idea how tho) and feel like a dumbfuck after reading that. Gimme a little time to wrap my head around this game and give you guys some of my reads.
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Just woke up and read through the last 20ish pages.
The kenpachi/lanaia incident looks like the biggest talking point. Kenpachi is already dead and I'm not gonna vote lanaia yet, I think we should see which way kenpachi flips first. I find it hard to believe lanaia would make such a massive mistake if she is scum, assuming she did know that her name would appear alongside the anti-vote.
Right now I'm getting a pretty strong scum read on Drazerk. The majority of his posts are one-liners, to which he'll add votes without giving a reason.
On November 17 2011 01:35 Drazerk wrote: ##Vote: chaoser
That is all
He attempts to defend himself from pressure by going on about how bad he is as a townie
On November 17 2011 01:54 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 00:54 Palmar wrote: Drazerk generally at least tries to look town when he's town Erm wait a second... XL - Only reason I didn't get lynched was because I spammed the thread with martyr posts SNMM4 - Read above but a lot worse WaW2 - LOL AA - Bad tunnel at wiggles proceeding by telling the SK that I am the medic proceeded to acting retarded Ressurection - Lurk day 1 - shot day 1 - resed by scum and everyone realizes it because I was looking so scummy XL3 - Active lurked into acting scummy to get the whole scum team in a single post LOTR - Saved the scum from a vigilante, proceeded to defend his third party claim, ROLE CLAIMED MEDIC TO SAVE SCUM, and proceeding to get role blocked / shot while spreading confusion through out the day. Hell If scum had kept me alive I would of protected Kita and let them win. Not sure what Drazerk your talking about to be honest because it's not me
And when kenpachi puts Drazerk on his scum-team list all he replies with is
On November 17 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
Unlike you I will never be lynched though
In almost ALL his posts, he looks like he's posting just for the sake of posting, he doesn't add anything to discussions, and something like 3/4 of his posts have less than 10 words and no actual content. I'm not convinced that he's just a bad townie. I think he's scum.
##Vote Drazerk
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
That's how I normally post your probably going to have to get used to it.
Ill be away for a while ##unvote: Sabin010
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On November 17 2011 07:49 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 13:43 Hiroruby wrote:On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote: come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means. Well, this is my first game so I'll give my elementary assessment of the afformentioned topics. <Fluff+Contradictions> Specifically: Show nested quote +Playing Mafia: I think mafia lurking and lying are weak strategies. Following those guidelines you set will guarantee the mafia get a few free town lynches if they play smart and be active at the beginning as I'm pretty sure we will have some inactive townies. Show nested quote +Lurkers: should be killed, and that should be made clear right away. If you know you will die if you lurk, then you will not lurk unless you are mafia, and that should just get you killed. Mafia will be pushing for lurkers to be lynched in the first few days. Lurkers should be killed! Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 05:21 Hiroruby wrote:On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:##Vote: Sabin010
Bad vibes also this - On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote: I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off. On November 16 2011 01:06 Sabin010 wrote: This is my first game and im not sure of all the terms. I thought scum, mob, and mafia are the same. That appears to be a very blatant lie. Looking at it, I can really see nothing that can redeem this. LaL. ##Vote: Sabin010 Shitty reasoned vote for Sabin010? Doesn't post for 24 hours to explain or push for it. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 07:34 Hiroruby wrote: I don't have time to post much right now, but I've read the thread, and really don't like what went down between Lana, and Ken.
##Vote: Lanaia ##Vote: Kenpachi
I need to do a more in depth read of Chao before I vote him, because he is getting very close to over 50%. Once again, doesn't explain his vote, saying it's due to "don't like what went down"##vote: Hiroruby At this point, he's already done that twice.
On November 17 2011 09:22 chaoser wrote: ##vote bumatlarge Knowing full well it's scummy, he does it again. But why?
On November 17 2011 08:00 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 07:56 Palmar wrote: I always play like that... my biggest weakness as a town player is telling the difference between terrible townies and scum. Probably should brush up on this weakness given how shitty towns are... Here, I'll help http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147475Show nested quote +The worst way to play day 1 is with apathy and disinterest and lynch the most outspoken/controversial player, who is never going to be mafia. Lynching inactives is generally fruitless, but slightly less so; the mafia will always be able to deflect it to some bored townie but they might be forced to step up and do something that reveals their true colors. Note that forcing a mafia to expose information they would not have done so in ordinary circumstances is exactly what I mean for point 3. He's been intentionally playing to be outspoken/controversial so he could bring that up on purpose.
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On November 17 2011 13:37 bumatlarge wrote:
Coag only posted twice, but I do recall him lurking in the beginning last time I played with him. I forget if he was a scum that game. I'd be more afraid of active scum Coag, then lurking scum coag, as vets who lurk have no presence in a game with a lot of fresh faces. I would say it would be different the other way around if this was a few months ago.
That's probably the most scummy logic I've seen this game.
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I dont think I have ever seen a game with so many people pushing so many different suspects. There hasnt really been a single person who has come off as pro town or looks like they are focusing on towns best interest at this point. I would be willing to bet scum are flying low considering how many lynch candidates are on the table. The towns focus is so split up that they probably feel zero threat and thus have zero need to make any big posts or plays.
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Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be?
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On November 17 2011 19:34 Forumite wrote: Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be?
Following that latest post of Bumatlarge's, I'd probably lynch him. Wherebugsgo asked me about Bum earlier, to which I responded him being a null read, but that is such a bad post, I see no motivation for town to post in such a manner.
I do not agree with most of your reads at the moment, but you seem genuine enough in your accusations that I also don't think you need to be looked at specifically at the moment.
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Cause people love lists
chaoser wherebugsgo Drazerk bumatlarge
theres scum in there somewhere.
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On November 17 2011 19:34 Forumite wrote: Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be? Prplhz is my second strongest scum read, but he manages to do that every game, so lynching right now would be Sinani.
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Also, about Tyrren:
It's obviously harder for me to understand players I have never played with before, but he seems to be a poker player which is usually a good thing in TL Mafia (Mig is an excellent example of a poker player who is also great at mafia). And he has been making several correct calls throughout the game.
He's calling people out on bullshit, notably both Bumatlarge and sabin010.
He doesn't have a lot of posts, but those he does have are valuable and seem genuine and well thought out. Even if I want to kill Lanaia for bad play, and he doesn't agree, rather killing only Kenpachi, I can understand his logic behind it, and it's not scummy in any way.
I have a pretty strong town read on Tyrren at the moment, assuming he is fairly new to mafia because I haven't played with him before, I have a hard time any scum could be playing this ridiculously well, so the simplest solution is that Tyrren is being smart and genuine.
I like that guy, I actually want to hear more from him, but yes, I feel confident he's town.
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