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On November 17 2011 10:02 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:00 sinani206 wrote:On November 17 2011 09:59 chaoser wrote:##Vote: Palmar
He has been pushing a moronic case against chaoser since the beginning and most of you are eating it up. When the Lanaia/kenpachi thing came up, he threw his vote their way haphazardly, my guess because they are both town (although I still have some hope that KP was scum) and he just wants to make more town lynches day 1. All the while he has been pushing this chaoser lynch as a sure thing. If we lynch chaoser and he flips green or blue, I want palmar dead the next day for sure. He wants chaoser dead because as he said himself chaoser is a good player for town. He has built a case against him on LAL so he can hide behind policy when he is proven wrong about chaoser when chaoser flips. His entire case on me is literally built on the fact that I somehow "Lied" when I clearly did not. That's the one fact he keeps bringing up over and over again. What a joke. Your not getting voted because of LaL, it's because you're scummy. Go back and read Palmar's campaign to get chaoser lynched. It was built around LAL and him 'not playing like he usually does' as if everyone has exactly one method of playing mafia. If we lynch both chaoser and kenpachi day 1 and they both flip green i'm going to....well I'll just be upset.
Note for later: If I happen to be wrong about chaoser and lanaia, Lemonwalrus started building a case for lynching me tomorrow very early, there is no need to state already that you want me dead based on how they flip, you could just as well say that tomorrow. Lemon's vote on me, more than anything else, is making me rethink my position. I wonder if he knows something I don't.
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On November 17 2011 10:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:51 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@Cyber_CheeseI'm going to keep a vote on Chaoser, it'll take something short of a miracle to convince me that random voting wasn't just him putting suspicion everywhere and muddying the waters to make the place more anti-town. You've voted for 5 different people so far, and are still voting for 3 of them. Palmar is voting for 5 people currently. Chaoser has voted for 5 different people so far, and is still voting for 4 of them. The only difference I see is that you and Palmar are mostly on the bandwagons while Chaoser's votes are more fringe votes. However, you were also the first and only vote to go on prplhz and the second vote, after only Palmar, to vote on Coag, so even you have cast some votes to the fringe. Why is his voting muddying the waters, and your's and Palmar's not? In a game with mutli-lynch, it's harder to define the boundaries of what is muddying the waters and what is legitimate contribution. He was voting without reasoning, on people he never mentioned. And we know it was on purpose because he did it twice.
So what? That was almost 2 IRL days ago. Why focus on just his first posts when he has posted so much after that?
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On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote:
Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.
##Vote: Palmar
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EBWOP: I meant to add "lol" to that quote
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I'm gonna sleep.
Chaoser: why did you throw those votes around so liberally early on? Please explain your thought process and what you wanted to achieve. If I believe your answer I'll consider laying off you.
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##unvote chaoser
##vote Lemonwalrus
Reason:
On November 17 2011 09:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:Reasoning please? I've been toying with that vote since page 15 or so, but I'd like to hear why you did it.
On November 17 2011 09:54 Lemonwalrus wrote:
##Vote: bumatlarge
Be the batman that this steamship deserves.
Sorry, but I can't let away with you calling out another player for an unreasoned vote and then pulling an unreasoned vote yourself.
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Look at the last few pages for the reasoning, bumatlarge was a major point of discussion in most of my recent posts. This will at least put pressure on him to post. And even in the 'reasoning please?' post I go on to say that I've been thinking about voting that way for a while now.
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On November 17 2011 10:06 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 09:51 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@Cyber_CheeseI'm going to keep a vote on Chaoser, it'll take something short of a miracle to convince me that random voting wasn't just him putting suspicion everywhere and muddying the waters to make the place more anti-town. You've voted for 5 different people so far, and are still voting for 3 of them. Palmar is voting for 5 people currently. Chaoser has voted for 5 different people so far, and is still voting for 4 of them. The only difference I see is that you and Palmar are mostly on the bandwagons while Chaoser's votes are more fringe votes. However, you were also the first and only vote to go on prplhz and the second vote, after only Palmar, to vote on Coag, so even you have cast some votes to the fringe. Why is his voting muddying the waters, and your's and Palmar's not? In a game with mutli-lynch, it's harder to define the boundaries of what is muddying the waters and what is legitimate contribution. He was voting without reasoning, on people he never mentioned. And we know it was on purpose because he did it twice. So what? That was almost 2 IRL days ago. Why focus on just his first posts when he has posted so much after that?
I'm failing to see how his actions on Day 1 are irrelevant on Day 1.
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oh, and before I go.
##unvote Zephirdd
##vote Palmer
##vote Cyber_cheese
Palmer's case against me has been based around one single post which is the post
"I'm green townie <3
LAL sucks"
and around the idea that "he's been all over the place" when really, I voted for three people at the start of a game, a more nonmafia act than anything else
The good news of all the over-discussion of irrelevant topics is the number of obvious innocents that appear. This is based on their willingness to contribute their own ideas, not just sit back and critique others, and their sheer activity.
-from XXX analysis
And while I thought he'd move off the vote as the game went on, the fact that he's still pushing it when it's this far into the game and he's still using that post from day one as his "proof" that I'm mafia is telling
Cyber_cheese is just parroting him -_-
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On November 17 2011 10:09 Palmar wrote:
I'm gonna sleep.
Chaoser: why did you throw those votes around so liberally early on? Please explain your thought process and what you wanted to achieve. If I believe your answer I'll consider laying off you.
I already did? Go read my exchange with WBG. Pressure on you from people and all of a sudden you're willing to back off when before you were deadset on it?
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On November 17 2011 10:12 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Look at the last few pages for the reasoning, bumatlarge was a major point of discussion in most of my recent posts. This will at least put pressure on him to post. And even in the 'reasoning please?' post I go on to say that I've been thinking about voting that way for a while now.
...I just looked, I'm not seeing it. Quote it please?
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For lurking ever since I called them out:
##Vote: xsksc
##Vote: LSB
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On November 17 2011 10:15 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:12 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Look at the last few pages for the reasoning, bumatlarge was a major point of discussion in most of my recent posts. This will at least put pressure on him to post. And even in the 'reasoning please?' post I go on to say that I've been thinking about voting that way for a while now. ...I just looked, I'm not seeing it. Quote it please?
On November 17 2011 09:27 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:25 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 17 2011 09:22 chaoser wrote:
##vote bumatlarge Reasoning please? I've been toying with that vote since page 15 or so, but I'd like to hear why you did it. He's posted four times in total. Batman would be doing much more than that. So you think there is a scum team out there that would put a leash on one of the most outspoken players on the forum and expect nobody to notice? And what are your thoughts on Coag's uncharacteristic silence?
On November 17 2011 09:32 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I've already said that I thought you were town, and I still do. I'm not FoSing you, I just want to start up a dialogue on two vets that are known for being high volume posters but have been quiet thus far.
I'm not sure about Coagulation at this point...this is unlike him but I don't know if I want to jump to the conclusion he is scummy.
And then I borrowed this reasoning to finally make my vote:
On November 17 2011 09:38 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:32 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I've already said that I thought you were town, and I still do. I'm not FoSing you, I just want to start up a dialogue on two vets that are known for being high volume posters but have been quiet thus far.
I'm not sure about Coagulation at this point...this is unlike him but I don't know if I want to jump to the conclusion he is scummy. Sorry then, I'm extremely PO-ed that kenpachi actually got lynched. for me right now, coag and bum are pretty much equal in terms of my suspicions. Bum posted 4 times, coag posted a grand total of once where he advocates a policy lynch on Kenpachi. But I expect a lot more from bum which is why I voted for him first when thinking about the "vets" in this game. Personally I think most of the mafia team is staying as far away from this kenpachi/lanaia/chaoser bullshit as possible. They wouldn't touch it with a ten inch pole. I'm just annoyed that the town is using the shittiest logic to try to lynch people.
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On November 17 2011 10:14 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:09 Palmar wrote:
I'm gonna sleep.
Chaoser: why did you throw those votes around so liberally early on? Please explain your thought process and what you wanted to achieve. If I believe your answer I'll consider laying off you. I already did? Go read my exchange with WBG. Pressure on you from people and all of a sudden you're willing to back off when before you were deadset on it?
I'm rolefishing you.
Thing is, I think you happen to have one of those roles mentioned by Zona that are somehow connected with how votes are casted, I think that would actually explain your liberal voting early on. This is the reason I believe you're lying about being vanilla townie, but since you claimed that and stand by it, it's making me believe you're scum.
Because you're not bad at mafia, you know that senseless throwing votes around is generally not a good strategy, you are probably fully aware of this. This is why I wanted so badly for you to explain your rash voting pattern this game.
Like, I'm trying in my mind to put together your play and just a random vanilla town. And I'm sorry to say I can't actually find any reasonable explanation to your early voting that stems from just you reading the thread with a townie mindset.
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#vote Coagulation
placeholder vote while I read over thread
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The combination of the mass voting with little reasoning, the green claim, and the fact that you were clearly aware of what you were doing (when you voted for sinani206 you said something like "I'm so happy I get to vote for many people), makes me believe that there is an ulterior motive to it.
It just doesn't make sense as green.
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what the fuck half the people in this game are acting completely pants-on retarded.
Chaoser you spelled Palmar's name wrong. Your vote doesn't count.
Coag you can't vote yourself and your format is wrong. Please don't act dumb or we will be forced to kill you.
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*pants-on-head retarded
yeah I'm dumb too get over it
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On November 17 2011 10:09 wherebugsgo wrote:##unvote chaoser##vote LemonwalrusReason: Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 17 2011 09:22 chaoser wrote:
##vote bumatlarge Reasoning please? I've been toying with that vote since page 15 or so, but I'd like to hear why you did it. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:54 Lemonwalrus wrote:
##Vote: bumatlarge
Be the batman that this steamship deserves. Sorry, but I can't let away with you calling out another player for an unreasoned vote and then pulling an unreasoned vote yourself.
That feels more like a vengeful vote than a reasonable one. If there's more to why Lemon's being particularly scummy, I'd like to hear it, but it feels a bit silly to vote just because he reneged on one of his callouts.
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EPT
