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heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
October 16 2011 04:25 GMT
#861
Well I come back to Radfield and Chaoser wanting my head and narrowly avoiding a lynch....

What exactly are you guys accusing me of other than that idiotic conversation with Chaoser?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 16 2011 04:31 GMT
#862
On October 16 2011 13:25 heist wrote:
Well I come back to Radfield and Chaoser wanting my head and narrowly avoiding a lynch....

What exactly are you guys accusing me of other than that idiotic conversation with Chaoser?


Obviously they're accusing you of being scum, what a dumb question
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
October 16 2011 04:45 GMT
#863
yes but why?
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 16 2011 05:41 GMT
#864
Everything went better then expected! Good call radfield, barely looked at node.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
JACCUZISPLAT
Profile Joined October 2011
Uzbekistan76 Posts
October 16 2011 06:02 GMT
#865
Hiro is still scum and the last few pages has made me really not like mig and im sure there is something going on in the mig/syllo/sandro circlejerk.
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JACCUZISPLAT
Profile Joined October 2011
Uzbekistan76 Posts
October 16 2011 06:03 GMT
#866
Something shifty going on
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEE *Boom*
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
October 16 2011 06:26 GMT
#867
lol red you are clueless honestly
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
October 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#868
hi im alive apparently going to sleep now.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 16 2011 06:58 GMT
#869
wtf this guy should be modkilled

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 16 2011 07:47 GMT
#870
If there are any guns out there that require targets, contact me or mig please
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 16 2011 12:08 GMT
#871
On October 16 2011 16:47 syllogism wrote:
If there are any guns out there that require targets, contact me or mig please

Controlling blues AND role fishing, all in one!
GENIOUS!
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
October 16 2011 12:40 GMT
#872
OK, last night i was pretty frayed after 9 hours of work + 1 hour of furious discussion, and probably let more slip than i should have regarding various roles.

Anyways Heist, it's not so much that you looked particularly scummy, but I wanted an alternative to Chaoser, and with only a half-hour to scumhunt you looked pretty good, and were fairly acceptable to most people. The last thing I wanted was to not kill chaoser, and kill a player who others thought was town. Anyways, node won out based on my PMs with him mainly, and the fact that he was also an acceptable lynch to the 5 or 6 players I was discussing with.

There is going to be a lot of action tonight, so we need to sort some things out.

If you are a weak doctor, you need to either telegraph who you are protecting, or outright tell someone(at like 1-2 minutes before the deadline). Telegraphing is preferable however.

Meapak has claimed inventor in thread, yet many players seem to have missed that fact(including node ). Medic/Doctor protection should be on him, since as long as he co-operates with us he should be allowed to live. However the likelihood of him getting his role stolen/swapped is like 99%, so maybe we don't need to let him live after all. Since if he gets killed after getting his role taken, it isn't a big deal.

In fact, I just noticed this from the OP regarding thief:
Neither you nor they may not use their role the cycle you steal from them.
+ Show Spoiler +
I assume it's supposed to say
Neither you nor they may use their role the cycle you steal from them.


So that means that we may not get an invention after all, or at least that Meapak can give the invention to his scumbuddy, and claim he had it stolen. In light of this, I'm actually thinking we should NOT protect him tonight. Not sure yet though, but i'd like to hear some opinions on this.

At any rate, a weak doctor should absolutely NOT protect meapak. As has been mentioned in thread, both Errandor and prp have tried for dreamflower and gotten vanilla. This means they are likely town, and likely bodyguards(I don't actually have the list yet), and hence a good place for the weak doctor to protect.

Pending the answer to the question below, the jailkeeper should not target Meapak.
What happens to the thief if the player he tries to steal from is 'jailkeepered'. Does the thief get another shot on a later night, or does he lose his power?

I think the chances of one of the top 4 roles having the NRA member are fairly strong(other than meapak, who probably IS the inventor). Therefore, any role with the ability to visit should think long and hard before targeting any of Kenpachi, Jimbo, Deconduo.

Can the framer cause vanilla townies to 'visit' the NRA member, and hence be killed?

Given that node flipped America, yet we didn't have an anonymous nuke fired day 1, there is probably no politician. Or at least no politician on Node's team. I wouldn't be surprised if multiple teams went for an america/politician combo. (I don't think there is any evidence of vote tampering either, but I wouldn't expect it at this stage)

Detectives have a slew of good targets, but again, I would be wary of investigating the #2/3/4 picks at this point. We're not in a rush to catch scum, and even if we were there are plenty of other people outside those picks worth investigating. Not to mention that finding confirmed town at this point is good as well.

Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
October 16 2011 12:59 GMT
#873
I'm not sure that Node had the role of 'America'. It seems to be flavor. In any event, it is exceptionally unlikely that multiple teams went for an america/politician combo if he was America since he draft so far down the list.
Cheese is good for you!
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
October 16 2011 13:58 GMT
#874
Node was definitely America, since otherwise it would say he was vanilla, or some other role. Not to mention that is bizarre flavor text for the current theme.

You're right though, with America taken at pick 17 there were unlikely multiple teams going for an america/politician combo.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 16 2011 16:41 GMT
#875
I agree with you guys that there were unlikely multiple teams going for that combo, but I think we cant rule out the very high probability that the politician exists in scum hands. It makes sense from the scum perspective to pick politician first, and then try for america second, as politician gives more overall power and control.

I would like to hear Heist and Chaoser's actual thoughts on the lynch/ and the Mig/radfield office. they were the primary candidates for the lynch alongside node, and while chaoser has made a valiant effort to defend himself and prove his worth, heist has done nothing of the sort.
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JACCUZISPLAT
Profile Joined October 2011
Uzbekistan76 Posts
October 16 2011 18:58 GMT
#876
On October 16 2011 15:26 Mig wrote:
lol red you are clueless honestly

about hiro being scum or about your confirmed town pm circle created a couple hours into day 1?
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#877
On October 16 2011 21:40 Radfield wrote:
If you are a weak doctor, you need to either telegraph who you are protecting, or outright tell someone(at like 1-2 minutes before the deadline). Telegraphing is preferable however.


This applies to every role that has any chance of giving us information.
Things like Hider/any DT's/weak medic should be breadcrumbing.

There's a few kp roles, perhaps we should discuss the merits of them breadcrumbing too, kind of like telegraphing kills so other people can't claim them later.

Unfortunatey, I'm not around for the next ~8 hours so I'm going to post this now:
On October 16 2011 16:47 syllogism wrote:
If there are any guns out there that require targets, contact me or mig please

I contacted him, this is blatant role fishing.

+ Show Spoiler [IRC Chat] +

Session Start: Sun Oct 16 17:37:13 2011
Session Ident: syllogism
[17:37] <mudkips_> targets?
[17:40] Session Ident: syllogism (QuakeNet, mudkips_) (syllogism@88-148-181-130.bb.dnainternet.fi)
[17:40] <syllogism> i forgot, who are you
[17:40] <mudkips_> cheese
[17:40] <Cyber_Cheese> nick wasnt working last night
[17:42] <syllogism> sec
[17:42] <syllogism> which kp role are you
[17:44] <Cyber_Cheese> im not role claiming
[17:44] <syllogism> you already did claim a kp role
[17:44] <Cyber_Cheese> did i?
[17:45] <Cyber_Cheese> at any rate, are you going to give me your suggested targets or not?
Session Close: Sun Oct 16 19:27:45 2011

There was no reply after that, Its been over 9 hours now.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#878
you're a moron cheese
♪♫♫ We all stand together! ♪♫♪
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 16 2011 19:24 GMT
#879
On October 17 2011 04:21 Arctocod wrote:
you're a moron cheese

Thanks, that completely explains all the issues with what I had to say, I'm glad your trying to encourage me to contribute :/
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 19:30 GMT
#880
On October 17 2011 04:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:21 Arctocod wrote:
you're a moron cheese

Thanks, that completely explains all the issues with what I had to say, I'm glad your trying to encourage me to contribute :/


If all you're going to contribute is trying to point out something that you want to be considered "scumtell" then I'd rather you just shut up.

Role-fishing is not a scumtell in itself, it's only if it's done in a scummy way that it isn't. You're trying to paint syllogism scum because you're not thinking.

This either makes you dumb or scum, and in both cases I actually don't mind you just shutting up.

Are you scum?
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