Original Message From Incognito:
what do you think of Erandorr? I'm quite suspicious of him. If you agree with my suspicions, would you mind PMing him to see what you can find?

Uhhh why are these different? Are you trying to say Incognito sent you 2 pm saying virtually the exact same thing? Because if not it looks a lot like you just faked your pms with Incognito.

Mig

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October 02 2011 00:13 GMT

#808

k I think it is still weird that he sent you virtually the exact same pm twice. Although less definite now.

Did anyone else get his 2nd pm?

Mig

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October 02 2011 00:15 GMT

#810

When did he pm you erandorr?

Also did you reply to his first pm ken or only the 2nd?

Mig

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October 02 2011 02:51 GMT

#846

Ok a couple things.

A) I can virtually guarantee nothing came up in Palmar's life that theory is completely wrong.

B) Curu did not in any way whatsoever manipulate me lol. Everything I posted against palmar and incognito I came up with on my own. Curu is not some insane mastermind pulling my strings I decided on my own both palmar and incog were scummy before he ever said anything to me and I did all my research on them.

C) The point about emphasizing him and palmar being opposite alignments is just lol. Of course curu doesn't think that is a serious reason to vote palmar. That has been a running joke for like the last 4 games.

D) WBG's post doesn't make curu look scummy in anyway and is just lol.

I will talk to some people that I trust and reconsider everything but right now I am way way more confident in an incog lynch than curu lynch.

Mig

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October 02 2011 02:56 GMT

#849

My last 2 games I played with Curu and scum and Palmar as scum. They do not come up with these ridiculously intricate plans at all lol. Especially Palmar who hates being scum so much and puts absolutely no effort in everytime he is scum. You pointed out that palmar attacks his teammates a lot day 1, which is true but look at the attacks they are always completely half assed.

Mig

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October 02 2011 03:05 GMT

#852

Everything palmar did this game was half assed. Including his attack on Jackal and all the times I talked to him on skype. I don't think he decided to half ass everything and at the same time come up with this ridiculous plan with curu.

I am just laughing at this I mean lets use some common sense here, which is more likely curu/palmar monsterous bus master scheme? Or uh how about curu is just town? Most times the simplest answer is the correct one.

Mig

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October 02 2011 03:17 GMT

#854

Meh I will just be upfront. I claimed Vanilla to curu once palmar flipped red. Then like 10 hours later I was rbd and muted during the night. Curu then later tried to talk to me on skype multiple times after I was muted. I guess that was all just part of their sick master plan? Even though he had done enough to convince me that I was town that I claimed to him he decided he needed even more credit and rbd me. Genius!

Mig

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October 02 2011 03:31 GMT

#856

[9/29/2011 3:40:54 PM] Charles Suo: the confirmed town scum lyncher sup
[9/29/2011 3:43:54 PM] Charles Suo: so are you an engineer
[9/29/2011 3:43:57 PM] Charles Suo: you should prolly heal me\
[9/29/2011 3:45:57 PM] Mig: I am a fucking vt
[9/29/2011 3:45:59 PM] Mig: of course
[9/29/2011 3:46:06 PM] Charles Suo: oh
[9/29/2011 3:46:06 PM] Charles Suo: damn
[9/29/2011 3:46:07 PM] Mig: drawing a hit like a fucking champ as usual

Here is where I claimed on skype right after palmar lynch incase anyone doubts.

Mig

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October 02 2011 03:38 GMT

#857

And I guess Palmar and Curu were also taking the time to fake convos to send to me just to trick me. What masterminds!

[6:57:24 AM] Charles Suo: so palmero
[6:57:27 AM] Charles Suo: was your role pm blue
[6:57:43 AM] Palmar: yep
[6:57:57 AM] Palmar: actually no
[6:57:59 AM] Palmar: it had no color
[6:58:05 AM] Palmar: it just said "BLU

[9/28/2011 11:09:15 AM] Charles Suo: hi palmar
[9/28/2011 12:43:29 PM] Charles Suo: hi palmar
[9/28/2011 12:43:45 PM] Palmar: sup
[9/28/2011 12:43:50 PM] Palmar: you're playing xlv?
[9/28/2011 12:44:05 PM] Charles Suo: yes
[9/28/2011 12:44:10 PM] Charles Suo: are you scum
[9/28/2011 12:44:16 PM] Palmar: I may or may not have accidentally told mig my role
[9/28/2011 12:44:24 PM] Palmar: because I didn't

Palmar did role claim to me as soon as the game started and tried to pass it off as a mistake which I called him out on for being bs because there was no way he would fuck up badly enough to claim dt to me at the start of the game.

[9/28/2011 4:37:59 AM] Mig: palmar
[9/28/2011 4:38:02 AM] Mig: you are mafia arent you
[9/28/2011 9:15:54 AM] Palmar: in xlv?
[9/28/2011 9:15:59 AM] Palmar: no, town
[9/28/2011 9:16:53 AM] Mig: likely story
[9/28/2011 9:16:55 AM] Palmar: I'm blu pyro
[9/28/2011 9:16:56 AM] Palmar: wait
[9/28/2011 9:17:02 AM] Palmar: are you playing?
[9/28/2011 9:17:04 AM] Mig: yes
[9/28/2011 9:17:06 AM] Palmar: derp
[9/28/2011 9:17:16 AM] Mig: I have no idea if I should believe that or not lol
[9/28/2011 9:17:35 AM] Mig: lol you just claimed dt
[9/28/2011 9:17:44 AM] Palmar: if you're mafia
[9/28/2011 9:17:48 AM] Mig: nah I am town
[9/28/2011 9:17:52 AM] Palmar: fuck
[9/28/2011 9:18:59 AM] Palmar: if you're town
[9/28/2011 9:19:03 AM] Palmar: help me figure this out
[9/28/2011 9:19:05 AM] Palmar: oh wait
[9/28/2011 9:19:07 AM] Palmar: I got it
[9/28/2011 9:19:14 AM] Palmar: I'll just pm obvious townies that you know my role

[9/28/2011 9:23:06 AM] Mig: I dont actually know if you are pyro
[9/28/2011 9:25:13 AM] Mig: the sick thing is you didnt realize we were both mafia in ace's game so maybe you are just careless enough to really not know?
[9/28/2011 9:25:33 AM] Mig: but on the other hand I know that you know that along with would you really not look at the player list if you were dt
[9/28/2011 9:25:36 AM] Mig: and just insta claim to me
[9/28/2011 9:26:00 AM] Palmar: good analysis.
[9/28/2011 9:26:04 AM] Palmar: I'm checking you night 1.
[9/28/2011 9:26:20 AM] Mig: lol
[9/28/2011 9:26:24 AM] Mig: lolol
[9/28/2011 9:26:57 AM] Mig: you are such a troll I really don't know what I should believe I guess I will be able to tell hopefully with how you play rest of the day

Mig

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October 02 2011 03:53 GMT

#859

Sevryn is there something wrong with you in the head? Did you not see what I posted?

Mig

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October 02 2011 04:15 GMT

#863

Because townies in general are dumb and it is easy for them to get a dumb bandwagon going. Why shouldn't I defend curu if I think he is town?

Explain to me why he roleblocked me after I claimed vanilla sevryn.

Mig

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October 02 2011 04:31 GMT

#865

Also nice that incognito NC and WBG all disappeared from the thread instead of commenting on what I posted.

Mig

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October 02 2011 04:33 GMT

#866

Sevryn are you serious....... I mean come on.

This entire supposed master plan to bus palmar was to gain infinite town cred for curu and get people to trust him. After doing that why the fuck would he think I would lie to him? Use some common sense here. Of course I was telling him the truth.

He had literally no motivation to ever roleblock me after I claimed vanilla to him. Even if he thought there was some small chance I was lying why risk wasting the roleblock when he could use it on any of the numerous other people who hadn't claimed vanilla.

Mig

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October 02 2011 04:42 GMT

#869

I never said town power roles weren't RNG durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Of course new players can have blue roles. I said the teams weren't RNGd skill wise.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

October 02 2011 04:43 GMT

#870

And you just completely ignored my entire point. Why the fuck would he think I am lying after he just convinced me that he is town by bussing palmar? It makes no sense.

Mig

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October 02 2011 04:47 GMT

#872

Because that's how mafia games work..... The town power roles are much more likely to be rngd where the mafia ones are not. Curu knows this.

Is it a possibility that curu thought I was lying uhhhh I guess. But even if he thought there was some chance I was lying why would he not role block smurf or Incognito who are both more experienced than I am and hadn't claimed vanilla to him? Why the fuck would he roleblock the only experienced player to claim roleblock I mean come on! And aren't you curious what mafia didn't roleblock smurf or Incognito to mute them when they do literally almost ALL their work in pms. While I am active in the thread?