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I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.
Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.
However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.
Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote
I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName
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This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.
Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.
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holy shit, this is closer than I thought.
Why are you morons voting ON over iGrok?
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On September 25 2011 02:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.
Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.
However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.
Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote
I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName
Why do you prefer chaoser lynch over iGrok, given the facts;
1) chaoser shot scum
2) iGrok didn't shoot anyone, instead he comes up with a Saruman over OriginalName.
iGrok was wierdly enough checking ON night 2, when he was pretty sure Palmar is scum (at least he stated so). Why did he check ON over Palmar? The only reason i can think of is that he checked Palmar night 1. Is that so iGrok?
Also he comes with this "ON being Saruman" thing just after heist and Pyo have accused ON. Don't you find it suspicious?
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The "ON is saruman" post he made seems way to convenient for me given the details yesterday and beginning of this day. I let a 3rd party screw us over in MLP mafia, I'm not doing so again.
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On September 25 2011 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.
Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.
However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.
Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote
I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName Why do you prefer chaoser lynch over iGrok, given the facts; 1) chaoser shot scum 2) iGrok didn't shoot anyone, instead he comes up with a Saruman over OriginalName. iGrok was wierdly enough checking ON night 2, when he was pretty sure Palmar is scum (at least he stated so). Why did he check ON over Palmar? The only reason i can think of is that he checked Palmar night 1. Is that so iGrok? Also he comes with this "ON being Saruman" thing just after heist and Pyo have accused ON. Don't you find it suspicious?
Bottom line first, of course it's suspicious, that doesn't make it impossible. That claim wasn't one of the things that convinced me, because it likely was convenient lie. I wouldn't even put it past him to have found the real Saruman and lied about who rather than be forced out of that information so far from the lynch.
Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that. I'm not sure about iGrok's reasoning, but learning he could be blocked changed things.
The rest of the difference between the two of them in my eyes is related to their claims. Chaoser used a claim that sounded relatively safe, but had many mistakes like Boromir as a neutral party when he was party of the fellowship and a 'win with town' victory condition. iGrok's is nothing near safe and is relatively more believable.
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Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best
I think we have different definitions of what "Best" means cause I'm pretty sure two mislynches brought on by last minute bandwagons isn't such. You know what, fuck it
##vote: igrok
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On September 25 2011 03:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that.
I know I promised to pretend you don't exist... but are you fucking kidding me?
hahahahahhahahahahaha
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On September 25 2011 03:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 25 2011 02:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.
Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.
However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.
Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote
I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName Why do you prefer chaoser lynch over iGrok, given the facts; 1) chaoser shot scum 2) iGrok didn't shoot anyone, instead he comes up with a Saruman over OriginalName. iGrok was wierdly enough checking ON night 2, when he was pretty sure Palmar is scum (at least he stated so). Why did he check ON over Palmar? The only reason i can think of is that he checked Palmar night 1. Is that so iGrok? Also he comes with this "ON being Saruman" thing just after heist and Pyo have accused ON. Don't you find it suspicious? Bottom line first, of course it's suspicious, that doesn't make it impossible. That claim wasn't one of the things that convinced me, because it likely was convenient lie. I wouldn't even put it past him to have found the real Saruman and lied about who rather than be forced out of that information so far from the lynch. Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that. I'm not sure about iGrok's reasoning, but learning he could be blocked changed things. The rest of the difference between the two of them in my eyes is related to their claims. Chaoser used a claim that sounded relatively safe, but had many mistakes like Boromir as a neutral party when he was party of the fellowship and a 'win with town' victory condition. iGrok's is nothing near safe and is relatively more believable.
Actually Radfield was leading the town worst possible, pushing 2 townie lynches (Errandor and Jackal) at the last minute of dayphase.
Are you scumbuddies with iGrok?
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On September 25 2011 03:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 25 2011 02:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.
Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.
However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.
Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote
I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName Why do you prefer chaoser lynch over iGrok, given the facts; 1) chaoser shot scum 2) iGrok didn't shoot anyone, instead he comes up with a Saruman over OriginalName. iGrok was wierdly enough checking ON night 2, when he was pretty sure Palmar is scum (at least he stated so). Why did he check ON over Palmar? The only reason i can think of is that he checked Palmar night 1. Is that so iGrok? Also he comes with this "ON being Saruman" thing just after heist and Pyo have accused ON. Don't you find it suspicious? Bottom line first, of course it's suspicious, that doesn't make it impossible. That claim wasn't one of the things that convinced me, because it likely was convenient lie. I wouldn't even put it past him to have found the real Saruman and lied about who rather than be forced out of that information so far from the lynch. Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that. I'm not sure about iGrok's reasoning, but learning he could be blocked changed things. The rest of the difference between the two of them in my eyes is related to their claims. Chaoser used a claim that sounded relatively safe, but had many mistakes like Boromir as a neutral party when he was party of the fellowship and a 'win with town' victory condition. iGrok's is nothing near safe and is relatively more believable.
So because its completely outlandish and he just tacks on the word survivor instead of Mafia/SK makes it completely believable in your eyes?
The fact is I am not anti town in anyway, iGrok is.
Pyo still really scummy in my eyes, the fact that he voted Radfield before he died means jack shit, He could have just tried to distance himself from his team. At the risk of sounding OMGUS but seriously Hes so wishy washy about me that he claims sticks to me only after IGROK of all peopl claims that I am Sarumon (Which i am not). Personally I would enjoy seeing him hang greatly tommorrow.
Most of my prior analysis still stands. Heist probably not scum just being silly. Thats most of what I have to say at the moment.
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On September 25 2011 03:30 chaoser wrote:I think we have different definitions of what "Best" means cause I'm pretty sure two mislynches brought on by last minute bandwagons isn't such. You know what, fuck it ##vote: igrok
I'm talking in terms of how many of us were willing to follow him. Leading us in the wrong direction albeit.
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I worded that second paragraph badly, His vote only sticks after shitty claim.
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Also do note that iGrok has completely dropped off the face of the earth.
again.
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On September 25 2011 03:38 OriginalName wrote:
Also do note that iGrok has completely dropped off the face of the earth.
again.
Don't worry, hes gonna come and give you some more shit until day ends. Sure of it.
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On September 25 2011 03:38 OriginalName wrote:
Also do note that iGrok has completely dropped off the face of the earth.
again.
Do you think igrok is scum ON?
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On September 25 2011 03:50 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 03:38 OriginalName wrote:
Also do note that iGrok has completely dropped off the face of the earth.
again. Do you think igrok is scum ON?
Yes.
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Signup list not getting updated and not showing roles is getting annoying... just posting this so I can look back at it for reference:
Signup List (Day 3)
1. syllogism, Aragorn (Jack of all Trades) was annihilated in wrath night 2.
2. xtfftc, Imrahil (Vanilla Town), was wiped from existence day 2.
3. Jackal58, Radagast (Vanilla Town, Miller), was lynched day 2.
4. jcarlsoniv
5. kitaman27
6. GGQ
7. wherebugsgo, Denethor (Vanilla Town, Miller), had his throat slit night 1.
8. DoctorHelvetica, Sauron (Mafia Godfather), was wiped from existence day 2.
9. Erandorr, Gwaihir (Jailkeeper), was lynched day 1.
10. Palmar
11. supersoft
12. Vain, Haldir (Vanilla Town, Nosy Neighbor), was modkilled night 2.
13. JeeJee, Glorfindel (Vanilla Town, Nosy Neighbor) was crushed by the vote count day 2.
14. Mr. Wiggles, Pippin (Messenger), was stabbed through the chest night 1.
15. GreYMisT
16. raynpelikoneet
17. OriginalName
18. Navillus, Elladan (Vanilla Town), was wiped from existence day 2.
19. chaos13, Gandalf (Jack of all Trades), was wiped from existence day 2.
20. Archon_Toilet
21. prplhz
22. Cyber_Cheese
23. chaoser
24. sandroba, Legolas (Vigilante) was strangled night 2.
25. Ciryandor, Sam (Mason Bodyguard), was put to the sword night 1.
26. iGrok
27. heist
28. Drazerk
29. Radfield, Wormtongue (Mafia Messenger) was put to the sword night 2.
30. TranceStorm
31. Pyo
17 players currently alive.
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Apologies to the hosts and players for my last few posts, I was under the influence.
I am switching back to iGrok. He was suspicious early, his claim was extremely convenient and Radfield did everything he could to divert attention off him.
If iGrok flips survivor after all, we still have a third party out of the way and that's better than a townie.
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