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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#2261
I suggest people get their votes down since right now the votelist is ripe for mafia to swing it
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 22:01 GMT
#2262
I've been more busy than I thought I would be. So if I understand correctly,

Most of us believe Kita's claim as tracker.

Most of us believe Chaoser can only be 3rd party or town.

Why are they our two best candidates?

I don't want to lynch someone guaranteed to not be scum, but at the same time, how are you guys so sure of your convictions on a confirmed tracker?

And please waiting a few hours before revealing is not that big of a deal.

I'd still rather lynch ON than those two.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
September 27 2011 22:05 GMT
#2263
I cannot vote for kitaman right now. It just seems far too improbable that he could decipher chaoser's killing ability if he were mafia in which he would have had less than 3/20 chance (given that some of those kills were mafia too) and way way way too risky. I think he is a genuine tracker who has a weird ability (both chaoser and kitaman have really warped roles).

In light of that, I think that neither of the two are good lynches. Cyber_Cheese is my best bet at the moment because of his 'defense' of iGrok - preferring to lynch ON and chaoser to iGrok.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#2264
On September 28 2011 06:28 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:27 Pyo wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:58 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
There were 20+ players in the game. Its unreasonable to think I would just risk a tracker claim and hope I was right. If the 1/20+ odds don't go my way, then I'm lynched for lying. The fact is, I am a tracker and I wasn't lying. As for being a mafia tracker, I don't recall ever playing in a game where scum could track people. Even it its possible, 99% of the time, the tracker is town aligned. Don't overthink this.

Also, isn't it convenient that nobody else is committing one way or another until they see where the safe lynch is? People like draz have completely disappeared.


I fake claimed as DT in a game where a watcher, a DT, a tracker, and another DT were either flipped from death or accounted for by claiming in the thread and I ended up winning the game as mafia without being lynched. Fake claiming is not really that big a risk. At the least, as iGrok showed, your teammates can bus you if needed. This risk is even less in this game especially since it is a closed setup game where we don't know the roles and also the number of roles that exist. This makes it's very very possible to fake claim and get away with it. Of course I'm not trying to convince you that you fake claimed lol, I'm trying to convince others.

Your play makes no sense for someone who is a proclaimed tracker, not to mention the fact that you were townie in two previous other games and mafia thought it prudent to kill you off day 1. Now that you've claimed tracker, mafia doesn't kill you? They don't even roleblock you. You're a good player with a blue information role and instead they shoot supersoft? Someone that they didn't know was blue over someone that they knew was blue? That doesn't seem right at all.


If Kitman is scum, then he somehow knew that you were the one responsible for radfield, which makes you scum. Alternatively, kitman is telling the truth, which means you're telling the truth which makes him town and you 3rd party or town. Either way, I don't see a scenario where we should lynch kitaman before you.

However given the fact that Palmar's been a scummy troll, ON has all but disappeared and GGQ also has all but disappeared, I'd say there were 3 lynch targets better than either of you. This town has been one big huge sheepfest, and it needs to stop.


Ok so you're saying...the only way kita is scum... is if i'm scum...and I shot radfield? You do realize people don't have to play with perfect information right?


No what I'm saying is that you weren't really responsible for radfield... Notice how our vigi died that same night?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#2265
You guys are really going to spread the votes more?

>.>
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#2266
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#2267
On September 28 2011 07:08 heist wrote:
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?


No which is why I am not voting for either at the moment
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 27 2011 22:09 GMT
#2268
Only ~50 minutes left in the day.
wat
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
September 27 2011 22:10 GMT
#2269
On September 28 2011 07:06 Drazerk wrote:
You guys are really going to spread the votes more?

>.>

It's also a bit of an issue that I'm not confident at all in lynching Palmar or ON. Let me reread the arguments about ON first
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 27 2011 22:10 GMT
#2270
On September 28 2011 07:06 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:28 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 06:27 Pyo wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:58 chaoser wrote:
On September 28 2011 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
There were 20+ players in the game. Its unreasonable to think I would just risk a tracker claim and hope I was right. If the 1/20+ odds don't go my way, then I'm lynched for lying. The fact is, I am a tracker and I wasn't lying. As for being a mafia tracker, I don't recall ever playing in a game where scum could track people. Even it its possible, 99% of the time, the tracker is town aligned. Don't overthink this.

Also, isn't it convenient that nobody else is committing one way or another until they see where the safe lynch is? People like draz have completely disappeared.


I fake claimed as DT in a game where a watcher, a DT, a tracker, and another DT were either flipped from death or accounted for by claiming in the thread and I ended up winning the game as mafia without being lynched. Fake claiming is not really that big a risk. At the least, as iGrok showed, your teammates can bus you if needed. This risk is even less in this game especially since it is a closed setup game where we don't know the roles and also the number of roles that exist. This makes it's very very possible to fake claim and get away with it. Of course I'm not trying to convince you that you fake claimed lol, I'm trying to convince others.

Your play makes no sense for someone who is a proclaimed tracker, not to mention the fact that you were townie in two previous other games and mafia thought it prudent to kill you off day 1. Now that you've claimed tracker, mafia doesn't kill you? They don't even roleblock you. You're a good player with a blue information role and instead they shoot supersoft? Someone that they didn't know was blue over someone that they knew was blue? That doesn't seem right at all.


If Kitman is scum, then he somehow knew that you were the one responsible for radfield, which makes you scum. Alternatively, kitman is telling the truth, which means you're telling the truth which makes him town and you 3rd party or town. Either way, I don't see a scenario where we should lynch kitaman before you.

However given the fact that Palmar's been a scummy troll, ON has all but disappeared and GGQ also has all but disappeared, I'd say there were 3 lynch targets better than either of you. This town has been one big huge sheepfest, and it needs to stop.


Ok so you're saying...the only way kita is scum... is if i'm scum...and I shot radfield? You do realize people don't have to play with perfect information right?


No what I'm saying is that you weren't really responsible for radfield... Notice how our vigi died that same night?


...You're shitting me lol. I breadcrumbed my "sword of steel and iron" at the start of Day 2. The only other people that could have done have these abilities:

Active Ability
[Twoshot]Mirked by Mirkwood: Two times during the game during the night phase, you may destroy your enemies with your elite bow skills. If your target is already dead before you reach them, your shot will be refunded.

and

[Oneshot]Andúril: One time during the game, you may smite down your enemies with the Sword That Was Broken. If your target is already dead before you reach them, your oneshot will be refunded. Simply PM me the name of your target during the night phase if you wish to use your ability during night, or type ##Cleave [name] in the thread if you wish to use your ability during the day.

As you can see Aragorn already used his one hit on iGrok. And Legolas kills with bows. So yeah, I'm the only one that could have killed Radfield.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
September 27 2011 22:11 GMT
#2271
On September 28 2011 07:08 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 07:08 heist wrote:
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?


No which is why I am not voting for either at the moment


I think you and I are in the same boat, contrary to the confidence Palmar has.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:13 GMT
#2272
Something tells me scum have already voted.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#2273
On September 28 2011 07:13 Drazerk wrote:
Something tells me scum have already voted.


Or they are probably going to get mod killed
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#2274
On September 28 2011 07:11 heist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 07:08 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 07:08 heist wrote:
Drazerk, do you honestly believe chaoser or kita will flip mafia?


No which is why I am not voting for either at the moment


I think you and I are in the same boat, contrary to the confidence Palmar has.


difference between me and you is that I'm right.
Computer says mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 22:20 GMT
#2275
pyro, heist, draz, trance, would you guys be willing to put your votes on chaoser? Its a 100% thing and gives us more time tomorrow.

Right now I'm at four. Throwing 1 vote here and 1 vote there isn't going to do much for me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
September 27 2011 22:21 GMT
#2276
Ok I personally think Kita is the scummiest person out of the viable lynch targets.

Moreover he still refuses to reveal who he tracked other than Chaoser, and while for all we know its just a gambit to buy Town-cred. Sorry I havent been all that active today yesterday was a clusterfuck and by the time I get back from classes and stuff Its around this time.

##Vote Kitaman
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 22:22 GMT
#2277
Its amazing how most people seem to agree that I'm really the tracker, yet I'm leading the lynch.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 27 2011 22:22 GMT
#2278
On September 28 2011 07:21 OriginalName wrote:
Ok I personally think Kita is the scummiest person out of the viable lynch targets.

Moreover he still refuses to reveal who he tracked other than Chaoser, and while for all we know its just a gambit to buy Town-cred. Sorry I havent been all that active today yesterday was a clusterfuck and by the time I get back from classes and stuff Its around this time.

##Vote Kitaman


MAGIC!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 22:23 GMT
#2279
On September 28 2011 07:21 OriginalName wrote:
Ok I personally think Kita is the scummiest person out of the viable lynch targets.

Moreover he still refuses to reveal who he tracked other than Chaoser, and while for all we know its just a gambit to buy Town-cred. Sorry I havent been all that active today yesterday was a clusterfuck and by the time I get back from classes and stuff Its around this time.

##Vote Kitaman


haha nice to see you finally show up at the last minute. Nice one.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
September 27 2011 22:23 GMT
#2280
On September 28 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 07:21 OriginalName wrote:
Ok I personally think Kita is the scummiest person out of the viable lynch targets.

Moreover he still refuses to reveal who he tracked other than Chaoser, and while for all we know its just a gambit to buy Town-cred. Sorry I havent been all that active today yesterday was a clusterfuck and by the time I get back from classes and stuff Its around this time.

##Vote Kitaman


haha nice to see you finally show up at the last minute. Nice one.


Its not like I do it on purpose ._.
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