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On September 17 2011 10:33 Navillus wrote:
Also I don't like cluttering the space with too much talk about the ring, I think for the sake of those with no knowledge of the lore I should say (btw I've only seen the movies)
Frodo probably can give the ring
Sam almost definitely can
Aragorn possibly can
And
In LOTR the powerful people, even the goodies made it seem particularly bad if they were to get the ring, specifically Galdrial and Gandalf make sure never to touch it, this won't necessarily factor into the game but I think it's info everyone should have, beyond everyone getting the basics (and do add if I missed something obviously important) I think we should stop talking about this.
Because of the nature of the ring, it may also be more difficult to hand the ring off the longer you hold on to it. More speculation ftw. Just to get all the speculation out of the way, if anyone is a neutral sk type of role, it's gonna be gollum. Tom Bombadil would probably be a neutral survivor type role if he exists. Who knows.
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On September 17 2011 10:40 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 10:23 Navillus wrote:
God @#$% it I have now rolled VT in literally every &*!@ing game that had it that I have played in >:[ anyways if Drazerk gets to vote people with little to no justification then I do too
##Vote Drazerk Fine with me... no idea why you would claim VT this early in the game though.
Yeah claiming VT is really sketch tbh. It's either a lie or bad play.
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On September 17 2011 12:25 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 10:40 Drazerk wrote:On September 17 2011 10:23 Navillus wrote:
God @#$% it I have now rolled VT in literally every &*!@ing game that had it that I have played in >:[ anyways if Drazerk gets to vote people with little to no justification then I do too
##Vote Drazerk Fine with me... no idea why you would claim VT this early in the game though. Yeah claiming VT is really sketch tbh. It's either a lie or bad play.
Why is it a bad play?
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EBWOP: I'm actually curious, I'm still really bad at mafia and I want to know.
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On September 17 2011 12:54 Navillus wrote:
EBWOP: I'm actually curious, I'm still really bad at mafia and I want to know.
If you are actually VT, the mafia knows not to waste a shot on you, increasing the chances that they'll get a bluesnipe.
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On September 17 2011 12:54 Navillus wrote:
EBWOP: I'm actually curious, I'm still really bad at mafia and I want to know.
if you're town it's absolutely pointless to claim VT
if you're scum it has a point which is to make people think you're VT
thats why
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On September 17 2011 10:35 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 09:32 Radfield wrote:
Posts like this(mine) should not be given consideration when you are trying to determine a players alignment. They definitely should be.
Nope. The entire content of his post was all based on game mechanics. Game mechanics reveal zero about a player's alignment, so if you give people town cred for posting that, the whole mafia team is going to do it and pretty soon you're completely fucked.
On September 17 2011 11:31 Ciryandor wrote:
Just a talking point, what if he's Smeagol/Gollum? His behavior seems normal if that was his role; as he would want the ring, try to fish for it, and throttle anyone who got in his way of looking for it.
This is a mafia game, not a roleplaying game. Don't waste time on speculation like this, and don't subtly cast suspicion on players like this. Both are bad things.
The Ring has been a good starting point for conversation, but I'd like to start seeing more interaction between people. We've figured out some basic things about the Ring:
1. Don't claim you have it.
2. Don't pass it on unless you feel it is necessary.
3. If Sauron or Saruman get it we can all run and cry.
Anymore discussion about this is wasted. Starting now look at some of the posts people have made, try to figure out what the intent of them is. Ask people questions. Scum hate being asked what they think of the alignment of their scumbuddies, they want to keep to the shadows. Let's not give them what they want.
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On September 17 2011 12:54 Navillus wrote:
EBWOP: I'm actually curious, I'm still really bad at mafia and I want to know.
"I'm bad, so that's why I'm playing bad" generally doesn't run as a legitimate excuse for slipping up or a bad claim.
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On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring.
I'm sure several people want the ring.
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My availability may be limited over the next two days. If I can't be found, consult Mig (or redFF if you can find him) with any questions you may have.
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On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:I'm sure several people want the ring.
none as much as me.
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On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me.
Are you trying to derail the analysis and information here? What do you think of JeeJee?
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On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me.
Sauron? Is that you?
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On September 17 2011 14:33 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me. Are you trying to derail the analysis and information here? What do you think of JeeJee?
rofl analysis? All I want is the ring, man.
Also, that can't be a serious question...
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Debating about who should get the ring and what each role can or cannot do at the moment is pointless at the current time. However, I do like one of the plans that was proposed by a few people: having the person who successfully passed on the ring claim themselves. This way, we can enable a 'chain' to be made - i.e. the first player can confirm the second player once the second player has passed on the ring themselves. This is all dependent on the assumption that evil players cannot pass the ring themselves which as Radfield pointed out, is probably a true assumption.
Given this, however, this plan would probably only be effective for the first few 'passes' and perhaps near the end of the game when town circles become more clear. The risk after the first few days that the person holding the ring is killed, or has the ring stolen (which is a possible role according to the OP) makes the plan ineffective.
Therefore, I think that such a plan should work for the first 2 or 3 days to confirm at least one or two people. Any thoughts or ideas about this? I haven't fully fleshed this out yet (i.e. the possibility of fake claims is strong), but its probably a better discussion than the arbitrary finger-pointing going on at the moment.
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On September 17 2011 14:35 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me. Sauron? Is that you?
Yes. I am Sauron.
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On September 17 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:35 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me. Sauron? Is that you? Yes. I am Sauron.
And what compelling reason do we have to allow Sauron to survive?
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On September 17 2011 14:39 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:35 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me. Sauron? Is that you? Yes. I am Sauron. And what compelling reason do we have to allow Sauron to survive?
Promises of power and land I would imagine.
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On September 17 2011 14:42 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 14:39 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:35 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:23 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I want the ring. I'm sure several people want the ring. none as much as me. Sauron? Is that you? Yes. I am Sauron. And what compelling reason do we have to allow Sauron to survive? Promises of power and land I would imagine.
pfffff
I already have 10 acres with electricity.
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