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wherebugsgo
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:12 chaos13 wrote: I can't be the only one who sees how scummy Forumite is right now. Well, I don´t see it. What´s so scummy about it? | ||
GMarshal
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:11 Forumite wrote: Hmmm, yeah, sounds about right. Jackal is the player in this game that I most want to know the alignment of. If he´s Town, then he can help a lot, and we definetly shouldn´t do Scum a favor and lynch him, let them waste a nightkill instead. If he´s Scum, then we find him with a check, even if he´s doing his best "confirmed Town" act. Do you disagree? The problem is that, even if someone does check him tomorrow night, that doesn't mean that you will automagically know his alignment. The DT isn't going to claim just so you can know what Jackal's alignment is. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:13 wherebugsgo wrote: lol this exchange is pretty funny, especially when you put it like that. Chaos do you think Forumite is mafia? I do. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 13 2011 10:13 Forumite wrote: Personally, I don´t want to lynch lurkers or Jackal. Lynching Jackal for the fun of it is a mistake. Checking the last games, he´s often dead after the second night, mostly after he rolls Town and gets lynched anyway. He could be scum (Like in the CH game  ), but I´m not wasting time pushing to lynch him until he´s shown some real scumtells. Jackal does warrant a cop check though, if we have a detective out there. I think he's talking about this paragraph right here. You're acting really wishy washy on Jackal. First you say you don't want to lynch lurkers or Jackal, then you say that he could be scum, but that you don't want to lynch him until he's shown some real scumtells. Then you say he warrants a cop check. If he hasn't shown any scum tells yet why would he warrant a cop check? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:18 wherebugsgo wrote: It also looks like a plan to rolefish the DT.... I think you're taking this too far. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:16 Nisani201 wrote: The problem is that, even if someone does check him tomorrow night, that doesn't mean that you will automagically know his alignment. The DT isn't going to claim just so you can know what Jackal's alignment is. Of course we don´t want him to claim immediately, but he can breadcrumb, or wait a few days and claim when there´s more info. If Jackal´s scum, then we know when the DT claims or dies, and can lynch then. The only way this would not work is if Jackal is Scum AND there is no DT, or if the DT ignore this plan and checks someone else. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I disagree, just reread Forumite's post. He wants a cop to check Jackal before we have any information. That just sounds like bad advice. On September 13 2011 11:22 Forumite wrote: Of course we don´t want him to claim immediately, but he can breadcrumb, or wait a few days and claim when there´s more info. If Jackal´s scum, then we know when the DT claims or dies, and can lynch then. The only way this would not work is if Jackal is Scum AND there is no DT, or if the DT ignore this plan and checks someone else. Early breadcrumbing is advantageous to mafia. In XLIV I breadcrumbed and just railed all over mafia for one day before getting shot. IMO it's just because we don't have the ability to identify power roles as quickly as mafia. They have more information than we do, so they can narrow down the possibilities more quickly. Putting potential targets out there before we have any reasonable discussion is just asking to get set up. I mean, if you're telling DTs to check Jackal, assuming we have a DT, what's stopping a potential framer from just targetting him that night? It's better for them to decide for themselves who to target rather than tell them how to play their own role. This is my opinion, at least, as IMO it prevents WIFOM situations and false reads. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:29 wherebugsgo wrote: Early breadcrumbing is advantageous to mafia. In XLIV I breadcrumbed and just railed all over mafia for one day before getting shot. IMO it's just because we don't have the ability to identify power roles as quickly as mafia. They have more information than we do, so they can narrow down the possibilities more quickly. Putting potential targets out there before we have any reasonable discussion is just asking to get set up. I mean, if you're telling DTs to check Jackal, assuming we have a DT, what's stopping a potential framer from just targetting him that night? It's better for them to decide for themselves who to target rather than tell them how to play their own role. This is my opinion, at least, as IMO it prevents WIFOM situations and false reads. Okay, minor point on early breadcrumbing, good point on the Framer. Perhaps everypony else is better at finding breadcrumbs, but I´m having problems finding them even after the flip. It´s a small game, but we can´t be sure if there are any detectives or framers. If there is a framer or there exists no DTs, then this plan fails. I´d say it´s not very likely that there is a framer in the game, but we probably don´t want to risk it. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I have to agree with you on that, finding breadcrumbs for me is really difficult. I think sometimes people just need to be obvious about things if they're about to die (this is something I learned from my regrets upon dying both in XLIV and in cosmic) | ||
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Sevryn
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
maybe making a gameplan based on that is not such a good idea. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:53 Sevryn wrote: man i would love a daypost so we might have some more information to read into. Forumite asking for a cop to check a specific person is retarded in a closed setup. Chaos I think your reading a little to bit much into something that can just be he didnt think it through. I've made a mistake in the begining of a game that looked kinda scummy but was just me being retarded so ill reserve judgment untill I see some more of his opinions Not something I would expect from Forumite. His play in Cosmic Horror was solid, and I think I've played another game with him that he did very well in. If I live tonight I'll go back and check to confirm that. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Day 1 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rxAE4.jpg) + Show Spoiler [music] + All seemed calm in the peaceful village of Poniville. The key word being "seemed", GMarshal knew something was off, he hadn't been Celestia's number one troubleshooter for the last twenty year for nothing. He could *smell* trouble in the air. Yet everything was calm, the birds were chirping, ponies were playing, and not a single parasprite could be seen in the sky. "Why then" GMarshal thought "is there this itch in my flank, that tells me something is wrong?" It was then that a darkness fell over the town. The sun was blotted out by a could of darkness. The shadow descended and coalesced. Ponies ran, neighing in fear. The shadow coalesced in a sphere of overwhelming sadness, and from it pony emerged, a thing of dancing shadows and flickering moonlight. From the shadows Nightmare Moon emerged. "You foals! You thought I would forget the years spent in my prison in the moon? You thought I might embrace your forgiveness? With the elements of harmony safely hidden I can now bring eternal night. Fear me" "Enough" GMarshal roared. "The elements of harmony are right here in Ponyville, how dare you suggest otherwise?". Nightmare Moon laughed; "You are a foal". GMarshal noticed himself turning to stone, his limbs slowly growing heavy. "Everything has been accounted for, as soon as I am done petrifying you ponies I will cast Equestria into darkness eternal. Unless of course you manage to stop my minions in your midst" With a clap of thunder and an echoing laugh Nightmare Moon vanished, leaving GMarshal petrified in the center of the town square. The ponies of Ponyville knew that they must find the evil hiding in this town, and do so quickly. GMarshal royal troubleshooter has been petrified The Elements of Harmony have vanished Nightmare Moon has returned It is now day 1, you have 44 hours to choose a pony to banish to the moon. All the information contained in the daypost is not necessarily fluff | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On September 13 2011 12:12 GreYMisT wrote: Wait, "not necessarily fluff." does that mean there actually are clues in this game? because the OP states there are none. this | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On September 13 2011 12:12 GreYMisT wrote: Wait, "not necessarily fluff." does that mean there actually are clues in this game? because the OP states there are none. there is nothing pointing to the identity of any player in the game (so dont bother going through profiles and making clue connections). There *may* be hints about events that are not player influenced, or the mechanics of the game and possibly even the setup but that is it. There are NO clues. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On September 13 2011 12:15 GMarshal wrote: there is nothing pointing to the identity of any player in the game. There *may* be hints about events that are not player influenced, or the mechanics of the game but that is it. O cool something to talk about. What do you guys think the extra information is? The only thing i can see that might be a game mechanic is the references to elements of harmony? | ||
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