EPTNo one was scum hunting. This was the most frustrating game of Mafia I've ever been in and I just gave up.
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
No one was scum hunting. This was the most frustrating game of Mafia I've ever been in and I just gave up. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 24 2011 11:11 Mig wrote: I think wbg you haven't been in many games where mafia have really lurked, which isn't the norm. Mafia in general post when it is convenient for them, not for the town. If mafia sees the town is going down the path of a mislynch on their own then often times they will sit back and let the town self destruct without really commenting on what is going on. For example look at personality mafia. The town did horribly on their own and mislynched multiple times without mafia interference. So the entire mafia team just lurked and did nothing that game. It is really very very common for mafia to lurk and blend in. So if I am a dt and I see a mislynch I don't check the person who is being active and pushing the mislynch (if you think they are scum you can generally build a case and get them lynched without the check), I check someone who wasn't around or didn't really comment on what was going on. So basically if someone is active and misleading the town you have enough information to form your opinions and build cases to get them lynched, you don't need the check. But when someone is sitting out of the discussion the check maybe the only way you have to determine their alignment and get them lynched if they actually are scum. Idkwhenever I suspect lurkers they're always town lol. In XLIV my only lurker target, Kurumi, was town. Luckily I died the same night so it didn't matter, but, still... I agree with you about bigger games and town misleading themselves, IMO. this is why towns née to punish lurking and they need to force lurkers to participate. IMO a single contradiction goes a long way to nailing scum. That's how I got ON in resurrection, how you were caught in XLIV, and why I thought Dr. h was scum in LoTR and Palmar was scum in SMG. IMO there's a line between lurker and scummy lurker. In small games you need to push those scummy lurkers till you get a read and in bigger games the vigs need to do their jobs. But I understand it's probably different since I haven't really seen a game chock full of lurkers. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On September 24 2011 12:21 sinani206 wrote: MY READS WERE RIGHT AGAIN FUCK YOU ALL GOODNIGHT Its not what you know, its what you can convince others to believe. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + but do you believe me? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 24 2011 12:21 sinani206 wrote: MY READS WERE RIGHT AGAIN FUCK YOU ALL GOODNIGHT dude you had like no town cred whatsoever | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
You guys didn't notice during the game, but go back and look through my posts. I did a lot of work to get confirmed townie, and it paid off; I managed to get almost all of the elements and also managed to direct towns attention on the elements the whole time. I managed to avoid being lynched by lying about what the elements did (bulletproof? lol) and SIMULTANIOUSLY by being completely useless to town. Did I want to do analysis? Yes. I had erranor pegged as mafia day 2. I had WBG pegged day 3. But I didn't say anything because I didn't want to get hit. Curu I honestly thought was town, gj curu. Town would have lost anyway. I was going to claim that generosity had given me alignment check and I had checked jackal and gotten mafia. ZECORA OP BEST GAME EVER @GM: you should post roles. BTW my role had an extra vote (which I was planning to use on jackal at the last moment if things went bad) and also a power that made me require one extra vote, so once forumite was lynched I would have won no matter what. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
 and when I gave the piece of loyalty to jackal, it really WAS because I thought I was going to get vigged. I thought to myself, hell the entire town thinks you're scum. You're going to get dt checked or vigged tonight, might as well give the piece away, it aint gonna do you no good. Then jackal saved my ass and the rest of the game was a breeze | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On September 24 2011 13:12 tnkted wrote: @GM: you should post roles. I did, they are in the endgame post, the google doc has all roles and actions ^_^ | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 24 2011 13:12 tnkted wrote: I don't think bugs is giving me credit. I'm proud of my play; if it seemed off it was because he knew what was really going on. @bugs: did you guys think traitor? that was what I was going for. You guys didn't notice during the game, but go back and look through my posts. I did a lot of work to get confirmed townie, and it paid off; I managed to get almost all of the elements and also managed to direct towns attention on the elements the whole time. I managed to avoid being lynched by lying about what the elements did (bulletproof? lol) and SIMULTANIOUSLY by being completely useless to town. Did I want to do analysis? Yes. I had erranor pegged as mafia day 2. I had WBG pegged day 3. But I didn't say anything because I didn't want to get hit. Curu I honestly thought was town, gj curu. Town would have lost anyway. I was going to claim that generosity had given me alignment check and I had checked jackal and gotten mafia. ZECORA OP BEST GAME EVER @GM: you should post roles. BTW my role had an extra vote (which I was planning to use on jackal at the last moment if things went bad) and also a power that made me require one extra vote, so once forumite was lynched I would have won no matter what. You weren't acting town, I didn't give a shit what your alignment was cause I was scum. If I was town I would've lynched you if that meant my death. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
We didn't buy the bulletproof claim. But, it was WIFOM as to which one of you had the prot. Also in retrospect it would've made no sense to shoot you anyway since you weren't doing anything for town. No one was making sense. So we shot to get additional deaths. That was pretty much it. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On September 24 2011 11:10 Lucidity wrote: How funny is it that all 3 players that saved WBG were town t_t WBG: About your element business... What really happened? Curu: Would you have lynched sinani if you were Town? Cyber_Cheese: Don't try to lay "traps" in the future please. Yes. Everything I posted was genuine. I have no friggin clue why Nisani and sinani defended each other/chainsawed me like they did, if I was Town I would have pushed that lynch hard regardless. I have no idea why tnkted thought I was Town. I actually try to play the game as Town instead of just throwing up random nonsensical crap. I made it obvious with my Forumite push that I wasn't really reading the thread at all since I just pulled that one out of thin air while ignoring everything else going on in the game. I purposely tried to post like I did in Personality though (scumhunt express lol) because tnkted played in that with me when I was Town. sinani your read was right but for complete nonsense reasons (kind of like how Nisani accused me of scum in Werewolves cause DropBear died; even though I actually was scum I wasn't the one that shot DropBear so his reason was complete BS) so you were never going to be able to get anyone lynched. And yeah tnkted we realized you were BSing about the bulletproof lol. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
If you accuse us of being scum and are correct, we don't really care unless you actually have good reasons. No one had good reasons for lynching me day 2 and that's how I was able to manipulate a no lynch. If you guys made a case against me I'd have been hammered, but I was being lynched for the wrong reasons to begin with. Also that PM slip with respect to the times actually was a slip. I straight up derped and didn't read the time on the PM, I just assumed it was N1 because I received the piece after my role PM and before the whole piece claiming deal. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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Nisani201
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Sevryn
698 Posts
sorry i had to leave in the middle thanks GM for hosting | ||
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