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On January 16 2012 05:30 kitaman27 wrote:
I question Protactinium's lack of focus on a single target. He lists three different lynches as his election platform. If he is so convinced on BC, why save him for later? If it is due to the lack of public support, what happened to Ciryandor? He drop his case and never bring him up again. As for his actual case against BC, I do like his mindframe of going through past games to find BC's stance on pms. I agree with the lack of content the mason discussion actually produced and question how his claim actually benefits town. His entire argument could have been made without a role claim. I asked BC to provide his role PM's during the first day, but he ignored my request. I'm not sold that his mason claim was pushing a scum agenda however.

In regards to the VE jack claim, I'm uncomfortable that he followed through with pressuring the town to elect him based on the claim. He just called BC scummy for the same reason moments earlier.





The goal of your role is not to prove you are jack. That means very little to us. Your objective is to do what most benefits town. I strongly disagree with a mason. I'm not even sure why you would consider that over a shot, vet or a medic protect from a town perspective.

Foolishness, your election vote confuses me. You open up the game explaining how you would be supporting BM, explaining how he has something to prove and would be easy to read. Initially, I was opposed to this thinking he would only serve as a distraction to the thread and the game would revolve around his mayorship. After BM started posting reasonable, rather than following up with your support for him, you swap to BC instead. Not only do you not comment on Prot's case against BC, you don't explain why you dropped your support of BM. BM, you indicate that you have a strong town read on him due to the trolling, but I ask that you at least consider the alternative, considering he has trolled in scum games as well.

p4NDemik's motives seem questionable. I'm curious why he made your town list BM. His entire focus on day one is selecting a mayoral candidate and doesn't mention who he is suspicious of or would like to get lynched.

Lanaia is asking a bunch of questions about things that aren't all that relevant to the game. If she were town, I would think there are some more important things to be wondering about.

I still dislike Sheth's defense of Palmar. I feel as if he was playing up Palmar's contributions with knowledge that he is town. I'm interested in hearing others opinions on that series of posts.

bugs concerns me because he was so focused on Palmar, that he didn't seem very interested on commenting on anything else. From seeing his play in couples and responsibility, he has no reservations about pushing lynches with 100% confidence, having them flip town, and then moving onto his next target.



This is quite the leap in logic.

Scum prefer BM over BC (?)
Therefore BC is town (??)
Hence, Kita is scum (???)

Even after making no posts during the first 48 hours BrownBear still hasn't commented on anything. Surely you have some opinions, even if you aren't able to vote for a candidate?

hiro, I'd like you hear your thoughts tonight. erandorr hasn't done anything to make me think he was town, so you should try to change my mind.

I could go on about others, but I don't really have the time and I'm not sure how helpful it would even be. I'm much more confident on my town list than my suspects, but posting it doesn't seem very beneficial at this time. I'll try to narrow down the scum targets and make more of a real case against someone during the day cycle.

On January 14 2012 05:58 kitaman27 wrote:


1) I guess we have to disagree then. Even if mafia target weak players, those weak players still have logs of the agenda the mason is pushing on them. It is incredibly useful to have someone to bounce ideas off of in private, even if you don't know their alignment. In addition, it generates additional information that isn't available in the thread.

2) We don't know the role distribution. It is just as likely that there are 4 town masons and 0 scum masons as it is that there are 2 town masons and 2 scum masons.

For people saying there isn't a downside to a mass mason claim, of course there is. Mafia now has the identities of additional blue roles. Why am I the only one making any sense at the moment?

On January 14 2012 01:59 Kurumi wrote:
1. kingjames01
2. Refallen
3. supersoft
4. Slardar
5. risk.nuke
6. kitaman27 - Maybe vet but not sure. Plays quite good both alingments
7. Cyber_Cheese
8. Jayjay54
9. Kenpachi - lurks a lot, sucks a lot, shoots scum a lot. (vet?)
10. Munk-E
11. EchelonTee
12. Adam4167
13. Mattchew
14. Liquid`Sheth
15. L Shit son.
16. Meapak_Ziphh Same thing as Foolishness.
17. ~OpZ~
18. wherebugsgo
19. BrownBear Damn.. was he good scum? Can't even remember.
20. Ciryandor
21. Bill Murray known for distruptive and puzzling behaviour
22. rgTheSchworz
23. Foolishness Can't think of anything because he always played minor role when he played with me ._.
24. Toadesstern
25. Jackal58 Known for short posting style and likes to tunnel a bit. Good.
26. d3_crescentia
27. BloodyC0bbler Fear him.
28. Lanaia
29. Kurumi
30. blahz0r
31. VisceraEyes - people say he improved a lot, idk personally
32. GGQ rarely plays but mostly does well as town
33. sandroba Maybe not the amazing-amazing, but he's very good as town.
34. Jitsu
35. zeks
36. Mr. Wiggles
37. igabod
38. Palmar - very good overall, active and likes to bite
39. Erandorr
40. p4NDemik
41. GiygaS
42. evantrees
43. Chaosquo
44. Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito) Incognito tends to die quite quickly, he was one of the reasons PYPI was won by the Town
45. Macpo
46. rtgICEMAN
47. Maxella
48. bumatlarge - he has his good moments, like being a Good Bad Santa.
49. Scamp
50. Nisani201
Thereotically new, but good (without colour)
Amazing town capabilities
Very good scum play
Veteran
any ideas to those might be good
remember zodiac lists? I only remember the name of that strat lol
Anyway, the thing is we should get lists like "Good ol' players" which prove to be quite useful when somehow there are two out of 6 left standing and they're beginning to look scummy.

On January 14 2012 01:35 Kurumi wrote:

We should not make Bodyguards claim.
Good to know that someone actually reads my posts Palmar, if You were given ability to kill someone right now, who would it be?

On January 16 2012 06:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I still don't think WBG is scummy, as of this moment. I don't see how him pushing for Palmar would make him scummy. I was somewhat null on Palmar, as while he was acting similarly to how he does as scum, there was something a little off about it, but I wasn't sure if it was because he was being apathetic as town, or trying to change his scum play slightly.

I don't like that BC didn't mention who he would actually pick for the lynch, before he picked them. He mentioned that he thought palmar was scummy in some of his posts, along with foolishness and incog, but he didn't actually tell us that that was who he was lynching until it was time for the lynch. So, we lost a lot of discussion about the lynch, which probably would have generated far more information than talking about masons. BC's choice is consistent with what he was saying in the thread, but the fact that he wasn't transparent about it bothers me.

I had a town read on BM, much more so than either protact or BC, so I'm fine with him in office; hopefully he puts reputation as being a decent scumhunter to use and uses the position to influence the town. I would rather have not had BC in office, but after protact decided to switch his lynch target and not explain why, I didn't really want him in there as much as I did, either.

I would look into GGQ or BB, but both of those are probably better suited for vigs to shoot. I'll decide who I want to lynch Day 2.

I think depending on the discussion and cases put forward on day 2, it might be worth using the double lynch. Still, this is variable and dependent on what happens on day 2. Otherwise, we should probably wait another day to use them, or at least until we actually have more than two strong targets for the lynch. Remember that double lynches are enacted the day after we vote for them.

Also, as a side note, I'm dissatisfied with all of BC/Foolishness/Protact right now. I've asked things of all of them (as have others), and for the most part have been ignored. That means they're either not reading the thread, or don't care about being transparent and appearing town-like.