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On January 16 2012 16:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hi all, today we are lynching GGQ. Town has played without direction so far so I'm going to change that. An analysis post will be made early tomorrow PST. In the meantime I will be awake and active on my itouch for an hour or so. Feel free to ask me any questions as long as the answer does not involve copy/pasting quotes.
This had better be one excellent analysis post because as I see it GGQ is definitely not the play today.
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Alright I am going to bed. Remember, today we are lynching GGQ. We will also be taking a look at opz, L, Lanaia, wbg, and, supersoft. Depending on how many of these gutreads pan out we will either enact a double lynch or leave them up to vigis.
Here are the rules for today:
1) We will not vote for more than 5 people at a time. This will keep us focused and prevent scum meddling. You don't like anyone who's being voted for? Convince us of a new person. I have a feeling the scum were able to dictate the vote pretty much at will yesterday because of fragmented votes. If we keep focused we will prevent that.
2) If you vote without providing a reason in the thread I will call for a vigi shot on you. There will be no more sheeping, everyone is expected to have an opinion on the proceedings. Also saying something is "neutral" isn't a read, it's a scum copout.
3) There will be no idle accusations. If you call someone scum then tell the rest of us why you think that. Failure to provide reasoning for accusations is scummy.
4) There will be no tangents. Our job today is to lynch scum and every townie should be working toward that. Speculation on number of X role in game? No. Anymore worthless discussion on masons? No. Any discussion of future events that are not related to the lynch? No.
5) Lastly, unless you're a dt and have found scum DO NOT BLUE CLAIM.
If we all follow those simple and straight forward rules then we'll have this game in the bag.
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On January 16 2012 17:13 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 16:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hi all, today we are lynching GGQ. Town has played without direction so far so I'm going to change that. An analysis post will be made early tomorrow PST. In the meantime I will be awake and active on my itouch for an hour or so. Feel free to ask me any questions as long as the answer does not involve copy/pasting quotes.
This had better be one excellent analysis post because as I see it GGQ is definitely not the play today.
Pray tell who do you think is the right play? I looked back through your filter and was left baffled by the lack of substance. Congratulations! You earned yourself a spot of the "people getting analyzed tomorrow" list.
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I have been out of action since roughly page 40 or so, I'm sorry for that. I sent a PM to flamewheel explaining why. I will read up on the thread asap. I will be online for the next ~12 hours, so I will be participating in the discussion.
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On January 16 2012 17:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 17:13 Scamp wrote:On January 16 2012 16:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hi all, today we are lynching GGQ. Town has played without direction so far so I'm going to change that. An analysis post will be made early tomorrow PST. In the meantime I will be awake and active on my itouch for an hour or so. Feel free to ask me any questions as long as the answer does not involve copy/pasting quotes.
This had better be one excellent analysis post because as I see it GGQ is definitely not the play today. Pray tell who do you think is the right play? I looked back through your filter and was left baffled by the lack of substance. Congratulations! You earned yourself a spot of the "people getting analyzed tomorrow" list.
I find it hard to believe you're calling me out for lack of substance and can't figure out who I would call out to be on the list. It should be easy to spot if there isn't much there.
I actually am not opposed to what you're proposing, I just find it suspect that you think you have the right to do such a thing. As in, what exactly makes you think we should listen to you? Also, we have a list of five people to talk about but GGQ is a slam dunk?
Like I said, this analysis of yours had better be damn good.
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On January 16 2012 17:12 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote:49. Scamp - I'm neutral-leaning-scum on this guy. On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.
Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now. I don't like that he was expecting it and was highly disappointed in it. Proportionately, it was more likely to see a lot of town in there. Him saying that ciry's death was nice felt a bit... unnatural. Also, is that bitterness I see towards WBG? Care to reiterate what you mean by the last line, scamp? How is he playing that is so bad to you? Were you not expecting a bunch of modkills? I thought that everyone was expecting them. And yes I have bitterness toward WBG. I don't like the way he plays. As for clarifying the last line, how about I let WBG do it himself. Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
the problem for me now, of course, is that no one is going to listen to me.
And later... Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
The thing about the Palmar flip is that it makes people like zeks, opz, and several others look bad. Lanaia looks bad as well; she has not commented on anything concrete and so far has had no scum reads. It looks rather similar to her play from XLVII.
He neglects to mention himself in all of this. I'm not ready to make a full-blown case out of this but if you look at WBG's post history it would make a lot of sense if both he and BC are scum.
In what twisted world would I say that I look bad after the Palmar lynch? No shit I look bad after the Palmar lynch, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, nor do I have to say it to make it obvious. It just is.
Also, since I know I'm town, why would I even entertain the idea that I could "look bad" (aka look like scum) after the lynch? My goal is to find scum, not talk about how bad I look after Palmar flipped town. This isn't the game of "feel bad about yourself after you're wrong and stroke your ego when you're right." It's about finding scum. Obviously I failed yesterday, doesn't mean I'm scum.
Obviously you don't give a shit about finding scum, you just don't like my play. This is, of course, why you have never actually outright called me scum. You're just pussyfooting around the issue and saying you dislike my play instead of putting in a real opinion.
If you had any interest in town affairs you'd probably comment with something that helps us achieve our goal of killing mafia.
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and yes, I am calling you scum for that. inb4 omgus
##vote Scamp
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It's called accountability, and it's also called playing the game well. Since you have no interest in either of those things, it makes perfect sense that you would vote for me as a knee-jerk reaction.
I expect you to try to find scum when you're done crying.
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On January 16 2012 18:26 Scamp wrote:
It's called accountability, and it's also called playing the game well. Since you have no interest in either of those things, it makes perfect sense that you would vote for me as a knee-jerk reaction.
I expect you to try to find scum when you're done crying.
How am I supposed to be accountable for Palmar getting lynched?
Bring him back to life?
Quit?
Stop playing?
I am finding scum. You're a pretty good bet for it IMO.
Oh also, I laughed at this:
On January 14 2012 15:02 Scamp wrote:
Sheth, if we've not given Palmar enough time yet, then how much time is needed? More importantly, who have we given enough time to instead?
While you pretty much had no opinion on the Palmar issue day 1, you said this. I guess you were on my side of that issue, eh? Didn't want to cut Palmar too much slack?
So what happened when Palmar flipped? You immediately attacked me. Sure, I lead the lynch. Meanwhile, day 1, you did jack shit.
I have something to own up to. I have something to take responsibility for. You don't, because you haven't done anything. Bet it feels nice to be useless, eh?
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anyway, for the world outside of Scamp, I have some pressing questions I want answered while I'm asleep:
Sandro: you have still not responded to me man, what's going on in there? What are your thoughts on the game? Same question to Foolishness. You both have so far been incredibly lazy. If you are town you need to start talking to me (and town in general) now, else you will probably receive the majority of the votes for today. I'd be glad to jump on the incoming scumdroba bandwagon if this continues, as it certainly seems like that is beginning to take off.
BC: Who are you looking at lynching today? I'm not sure about kingjames being scum. From what I understand he's a friend of yours; can you explain why you chose to target him instead of someone else? Do you find anyone else scummy? What do you think of the late votes that went on BM yesterday, in response to the votes you received?
Lanaia: Name two people you would, without a doubt, lynch today.
L: why do you have such a low profile in this game? I barely realized you were playing. Why are you not more vocal and active? Scared? Scum? Bored?
Jackal58: I agreed with everything you said day 1, which is either really good or really bad. What are your thoughts right now? Who's scum?
VE: Where was that kill?
supersoft: Like sandro and Foolishness, I would like to see more activity from you too, from what I recall you are generally rather proactive with town affairs. What are your opinions?
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WBG, you're not finding any scum, you're acting like a spoiled brat. And it's better to be "useless" than a detriment to the town. Did you not notice that Meapak has flagged you for discussion? Nothing to say about it?
The point is after Palmar you're carrying on without any substance. If day 1 were a normal vote Palmar would not have been lynched. You've also said that you would look into certain people, but have failed to do so. All I'm saying is to stop carrying on like the Palmar lynch was not a gigantic mistake.
And please. I specifically name Sheth in that quote, but you didn't even look at what Sheth said? If you do, it's obvious you've taken my quote way out of context.
Your little tirade against me is moronic and shows exceptionally minimal effort. It's hard to believe that you're trying to scumhunt when that's the result.
As is, this has gone on long enough. There is no point to this and I don't want it to become a distraction. I will not reply to anything more you have to say about me.
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Well neat, you're looking into people. Didn't expect that to pop up in the time it took me to reply. I commend you for that.
Still, though, did you look at what Meapak posted? I'd like your thoughts on that.
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On January 16 2012 16:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
##Vote rgTheSchworz
Please explain.
So far both lanaia and you are accusing me based on gut calls.
While true that I haven't posted much, day 1 has pretty much been a mess, and I haven't been able to make that much of it.Macpo is mafia, especially considering his most recent post where basically he advocates that everyone has been bearing on his meekness and uninformed lists. Also he feels solidarity for risk.nuke, which doesnt exactly inspire me.
A vote for these 2 is, so far , a vote for town. Really, risk.nuke?
Townies read this.
If you think someone is scum. Don't say I think he is scum. Quote, point out and explain where and what it is that this person have done to make you feel a certain way.
If you find the manner of how someone post suspicious. Explain why. Make sure that the reader can follow your train of thoughts and understand how you came to your conclusion.
If you think anything at all about someone else and you want to comment on it. Ask yourself before you finnish typing.
Have I Quoted?
Have I explained my views clearly?
Have I pointed out or marked key parts.
Hae my train of thoughts been clear?
If everyone only did this it would make the scums life alot harder.
A list of what should townies do? That confirms my suspicion.You try to accuse the whole town for not following your,,standard'' procedure
As for the confusion, I AM NOT RTGICEMAN.I just found out his battlenet account, if that is any proof. I deem that having 2 accounts on b.net eu is rather useless for 1 person.
Also, it appears I've been mixing up rtgICEMAN and rgTheSchworz. However, that's okay because they both feel the same to me anyhow.
His posts have been troll posts that show that he has not been caring about the game.I let you decide, but I find it a bit hasty to assume that i am double-acc cheating or to associate me with him in any way.
As for the accusations, please go forth gentlemen and speak up.
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On January 16 2012 18:54 rgTheSchworz wrote:Please explain.
How could you possibly miss that four times?
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Well, yeah, i didnt take the time to format properly, i agree.
But the assumption that I copy pasted from a mafia QT is going too far.
I missed your first 2 one liners, because, well they were 1 liners.
In the beginning i also made the mistake of editing one post for spelling, when normally i shouldn't have.
I hope that you realize that i can make mistakes that are, well, mistakes, and not OBVIOUS scumtells.
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On January 16 2012 18:30 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote blahz0r
Did you completely ignore my post? Seems like it.
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On January 16 2012 20:43 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Well, yeah, i didnt take the time to format properly, i agree.
But the assumption that I copy pasted from a mafia QT is going too far.
I missed your first 2 one liners, because, well they were 1 liners.
In the beginning i also made the mistake of editing one post for spelling, when normally i shouldn't have.
I hope that you realize that i can make mistakes that are, well, mistakes, and not OBVIOUS scumtells.
I don't even... it would take you less time take time to hit quote and reply...
but whatever, you finally acknowledged it, that's all I was going for
##Unvote
I need to sit down and think about this game at some point 
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Sorry for being so inactive, it took me till today to read up on everything. It was much more than I expected.
I will be more active from now on and participate.
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I've gotta get to work, but:
1) The filter list on the OP post seems to have vanished. If you guys could get it back up, that would be tits.
2) Short end of the stick is that Kurumi crumbed shooting Kenpachi yesterday and he's still alive. I wanted to wait to see if he'd claim being hit, but he hasn't. Veterans/Medic protected individuals on the town side would have claimed this asap. Kenpachi wasn't jailed, I was roleblocked. Given all of that, the only way I can explain him being alive after Kurumi's flip is that Kurumi's pretty overt crumb was a lie (odd, given that kurumi WAS a vig), or that Kenpachi is the mafia jack, or was saved by the mafia jack.
So uh, Kenpachi's my lynch vote for the day.
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