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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#1381
It's pointless to scumhunt on D1 with elections because no one is really getting lynched anyways. If he decided to scumhunt with correct reads, that would make him a mafia target anyways.

That's why we should keep an eye on him on D2.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#1382
supersoft why did you just quote something from another game? O.o
Enjoy your day.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#1383
On January 15 2012 11:13 Nisani201 wrote:
It's pointless to scumhunt on D1 with elections because no one is really getting lynched anyways. If he decided to scumhunt with correct reads, that would make him a mafia target anyways.

That's why we should keep an eye on him on D2.


it's pointless to scumhunt d1?

Yeah, let's just fucking waste all the time we have day 1 because we don't want to play the game of mafia, AKA FIND THE SCUM AND KILL THEM.

this is fucking ridiculous.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#1384
On January 15 2012 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...

Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.


no, it isn't.

It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta.

The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that.

You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot?

Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town?

Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it?

Why is Palmar not scumhunting?

Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with.

Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff?

None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares.


you think VE did a good job most recently? Because you're telling me to vote VE but I don't think he's up to the task.

To get this straight. I'm either spot on with my analysis because those 2 + BM are the 3 people I am considering to vote or I'm horribly wrong and am leading town to another lose because of townidiots (in this case I'd be one).

I think all 3 are probably town right now. But I think BM's better than VE in an office and I am horribly scared to vote Protact.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#1385
On January 15 2012 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:13 Nisani201 wrote:
It's pointless to scumhunt on D1 with elections because no one is really getting lynched anyways. If he decided to scumhunt with correct reads, that would make him a mafia target anyways.

That's why we should keep an eye on him on D2.


it's pointless to scumhunt d1?

Yeah, let's just fucking waste all the time we have day 1 because we don't want to play the game of mafia, AKA FIND THE SCUM AND KILL THEM.

this is fucking ridiculous.

On D1, electing the right mayor is MUCH more important than finding scum.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#1386
Maybe I should have been more clear. I fully support scumhunting D1 in a non-election game.
Enjoy your day.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#1387
It seems obvious to me - he plays like obvScum, relies on pussy town to not lynch him, then supports two townies (or 1 for sure) for office in an attempt to draw votes away from them.

It's not even that deep, totally predictable, and falls in line with his horrible scum play.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#1388
WBG, I kinda get your point. But you seems like you just want palmar dead RIGHT NOW. If we wait till day 2, we can confirm your case. Remember, there are roles other than scum that sometimes adopt Palmar's behavior.

If he continues to post 1-liners and fluff, then you confirm what you said, right now.
It is suspicious that he wants VE, because VE has f-ed up with his partnership with CC, he turned back on him almost instantly, remember?AND he keeps calling VE bad.

But Macpo has raised FoS on himself because of his apologetic behavior, etc. Contrast this to Adam, who is himself relatively newbie, but seems more confident AND DOESNT MAKE LISTS.

I will support any investigations on Palmar's actions ON DAY 2
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#1389
On January 15 2012 11:16 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...

Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.


no, it isn't.

It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta.

The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that.

You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot?

Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town?

Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it?

Why is Palmar not scumhunting?

Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with.

Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff?

None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares.


you think VE did a good job most recently? Because you're telling me to vote VE but I don't think he's up to the task.

To get this straight. I'm either spot on with my analysis because those 2 + BM are the 3 people I am considering to vote or I'm horribly wrong and am leading town to another lose because of townidiots (in this case I'd be one).

I think all 3 are probably town right now. But I think BM's better than VE in an office and I am horribly scared to vote Protact.


where did I say I want people to vote VE?

all the candidates suck right now, that's why I haven't voted yet. I almost wish I could abstain.

I want to kill Palmar+Protact+opz. Probably kill VE too.

BC is probably the safest bet at this point for office but I'm not feeling great about him either. I wish Foolishness would be a bit more active so I could actually talk to him, but w/e.

Sandro why are you not doing anything? Who do you want lynched? Who do you think is scum?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#1390
guys. This is such a classic situation we've been into like a thousand times.
At some point of time you have to come to a decision.

Palmar is the best lynch today. WBGs case is solid.
My addition to it is solid.

This case is based on meta. Of course it is. We know Palmar from many many games we played with him.
He is playing extremely bad. In the eyes of a townpalmar, VE and incognito are poor choices for office.

You may ask him post-game.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#1391
On January 15 2012 11:20 rgTheSchworz wrote:
WBG, I kinda get your point. But you seems like you just want palmar dead RIGHT NOW. If we wait till day 2, we can confirm your case. Remember, there are roles other than scum that sometimes adopt Palmar's behavior.

If he continues to post 1-liners and fluff, then you confirm what you said, right now.
It is suspicious that he wants VE, because VE has f-ed up with his partnership with CC, he turned back on him almost instantly, remember?AND he keeps calling VE bad.

But Macpo has raised FoS on himself because of his apologetic behavior, etc. Contrast this to Adam, who is himself relatively newbie, but seems more confident AND DOESNT MAKE LISTS.

I will support any investigations on Palmar's actions ON DAY 2


waiting till day 2 does nothing.

You only wait till day 2 if you have a better candidate for lynch. So far, there isn't one.

Guaranteed we wait till day 2, if Palmar (or the other two I'm suspicious of are) is scum, I die n1 and then you all derp yourselves day 2 into not lynching him.

I can't guarantee I'll even be alive to influence town at that point.

Macpo is not a good lynch. The case is bad and I really think Protact is likely to be scum.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#1392
WBG have you been reading the thread?

BC, Sandroba, and Ciryandor are much better candidates that have a much better chance of flipping scum than Palmar.
Enjoy your day.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#1393
Protract why did you hop over to lynch Macpo as opposed to BC so quickly? You still haven't addressed this point.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#1394
WBG calm the fuck down bro. I'm not the problem here. I'm certainly not scum, and I think you know it.

When you say 'all the candidates suck' does that mean you think they're all scum? Or do you just say that because none of them are going to lynch YOUR lynch choice? Be a man, vote for the best candidate and just see what happens.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 02:26 GMT
#1395
On January 15 2012 11:24 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG have you been reading the thread?

BC, Sandroba, and Ciryandor are much better candidates that have a much better chance of flipping scum than Palmar.


no, no, no, and no.

BC is not as likely to flip scum. You're eating Protact's words and spitting them out exactly as he wants you to do. He doesn't even fucking support lynching BC anymore.

Sandro is not as likely to flip scum. Sure, he's done nothing so far but often times on day 1 sandro as town doesn't do anything. He's harder to read than Palmar. So far, he's neutral to me. That's not a good lynch.

Ciryandor is also relatively new. He might make a good lynch in the absence of Palmar, but again, he was pushed by Protact (who is extremely scummy atm) so I am wary of lynching him.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 02:27 GMT
#1396
On January 15 2012 11:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 15 2012 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...

Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.


no, it isn't.

It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta.

The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that.

You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot?

Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town?

Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it?

Why is Palmar not scumhunting?

Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with.

Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff?

None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares.


you think VE did a good job most recently? Because you're telling me to vote VE but I don't think he's up to the task.

To get this straight. I'm either spot on with my analysis because those 2 + BM are the 3 people I am considering to vote or I'm horribly wrong and am leading town to another lose because of townidiots (in this case I'd be one).

I think all 3 are probably town right now. But I think BM's better than VE in an office and I am horribly scared to vote Protact.


where did I say I want people to vote VE?

all the candidates suck right now, that's why I haven't voted yet. I almost wish I could abstain.

I want to kill Palmar+Protact+opz. Probably kill VE too.

BC is probably the safest bet at this point for office but I'm not feeling great about him either. I wish Foolishness would be a bit more active so I could actually talk to him, but w/e.

Sandro why are you not doing anything? Who do you want lynched? Who do you think is scum?


oh it was OFF VE and protac :p
Yeah I get the feeling of not knowing who to vote as well. As mentioned VE is not going to get my vote, neither is protac although I got a slight townread on him, everyone else is even worse imo
So BM is the only one left that has a chance I don't think lynching sandroba is bad at this point although it's a vet.
I'm not sure about VE yet. I'm giving him a 60/40 to end up being town but I definatly don't like his "oh guys I am so sry, I screwed this big time" talk.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 02:27 GMT
#1397
On January 15 2012 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG calm the fuck down bro. I'm not the problem here. I'm certainly not scum, and I think you know it.

When you say 'all the candidates suck' does that mean you think they're all scum? Or do you just say that because none of them are going to lynch YOUR lynch choice? Be a man, vote for the best candidate and just see what happens.


no, you're not the problem, Palmar is.

and no, I just think all the candidates suck.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 15 2012 02:28 GMT
#1398
On January 15 2012 11:24 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG have you been reading the thread?

BC, Sandroba, and Ciryandor are much better candidates that have a much better chance of flipping scum than Palmar.


hahahahahaha. Have you read my most recent post about palmar?
I guess you did because you asked why I am quoting posts from other games.

townPalmar guy thinks that VE is bad, therefor needs no protection,
someone who needs no protection doesnt belong into office.
Palmar in this game thinks VE should be into office,
Palmar in this game isnt town.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 15 2012 02:35 GMT
#1399
On January 15 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia, if you agree with lynching Palmar can you explain why you don't want me elected?

Who are you looking at voting for?

I don't particularly care for getting elected. All I care about is scum dying. So far I don't think macpo is scum and none of the other candidates have come up with anything promising. So, that means the only option to get Palmar lynched is to elect me in to office.

(this is suboptimal, for reasons I won't explicitly explain)


The amount of people who voted you so quickly within such a short period of time bothered me. I know it wasn't enough to swing the vote, but it really rubbed me the wrong way.

Dammit, I wish I'd not waffled so much in regards to switching my vote. Now, it's kinda too late. I really can't tell if this is my being paranoid or not.

<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 02:37 GMT
#1400
On January 15 2012 11:35 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia, if you agree with lynching Palmar can you explain why you don't want me elected?

Who are you looking at voting for?

I don't particularly care for getting elected. All I care about is scum dying. So far I don't think macpo is scum and none of the other candidates have come up with anything promising. So, that means the only option to get Palmar lynched is to elect me in to office.

(this is suboptimal, for reasons I won't explicitly explain)


The amount of people who voted you so quickly within such a short period of time bothered me. I know it wasn't enough to swing the vote, but it really rubbed me the wrong way.

Dammit, I wish I'd not waffled so much in regards to switching my vote. Now, it's kinda too late. I really can't tell if this is my being paranoid or not.



if that's going to help you: even more people switched to protac shortly after people switched to wbg.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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